Comments on: EEVblog #26 – Multimeter Counts, Accuracy, Resolution & Calibration http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/ No Script, No Fear, All Opinion Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:30:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Alex http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-12588 Alex Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:46:56 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-12588 Of course... because shoes are a necessity while our gear are TOYS! :) Of course… because shoes are a necessity while our gear are TOYS! :)

]]> By: Paulo S Gon http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-3403 Paulo S Gon Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:05:49 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-3403 Thank you very much, from Brasil South America Very good!!!!! Paulo Thank you very much, from Brasil South America
Very good!!!!!
Paulo

]]> By: Multimeters and Electrometers http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-1817 Multimeters and Electrometers Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:23:54 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-1817 Its good to know their accuracy are similar. although their design are different but they can provide accurate readings. Its good to know their accuracy are similar. although their design are different but they can provide accurate readings.

]]> By: Timothy Tee http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-859 Timothy Tee Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:10:13 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-859 I saw a lot of electronic test equipment usually has ratings like 'CAT III 1000V' and 'CAT IV 600V'. I know is something to do with the meter is more suitable on those level of power distribution but why this is important? I saw a lot of electronic test equipment usually has ratings like ‘CAT III 1000V’ and ‘CAT IV 600V’. I know is something to do with the meter is more suitable on those level of power distribution but why this is important?

]]> By: admin http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-805 admin Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:30:12 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-805 LOL! For some reason, this line from Under Siege 2 just jumped into my head: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg4trPZFUwc (Profanity warning) LOL!
For some reason, this line from Under Siege 2 just jumped into my head:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg4trPZFUwc
(Profanity warning)

]]> By: Kathy Quinlan http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-797 Kathy Quinlan Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:17:18 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-797 lol dave, Mine is female too.... Kat. lol dave, Mine is female too….

Kat.

]]> By: admin http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-795 admin Wed, 26 Aug 2009 05:15:01 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-795 I bet my Minster of Finance is 10 times worse than yours, mine's FEMALE! :-P Shoes are an OK expense, but a multimeter gets a slap over the head! I bet my Minster of Finance is 10 times worse than yours, mine’s FEMALE! :-P
Shoes are an OK expense, but a multimeter gets a slap over the head!

]]> By: Kathy Quinlan http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-791 Kathy Quinlan Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:32:21 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-791 lol Dave, you know minsters of finance, they want to spend as little as possible ;) Will go trawl some sites :) lol Dave, you know minsters of finance, they want to spend as little as possible ;)

Will go trawl some sites :)

]]> By: admin http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-787 admin Tue, 25 Aug 2009 22:03:19 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-787 Fluke are of course still #1 in terms of quality. Meterman/Amprobe aren't bad. Agilent make some very nice new meters How much will the Minister of finances allow? Fluke are of course still #1 in terms of quality.
Meterman/Amprobe aren’t bad.
Agilent make some very nice new meters
How much will the Minister of finances allow?

]]> By: Walter http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-782 Walter Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:54:31 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-782 Thanks for the blog! You answered my question. When I first started listening, I thought I was going to have to send a follow-up question when you said counts have nothing to do with accuracy, but you answered my question in reference to the +/- count issue at the end. Thanks. Thanks for the blog! You answered my question. When I first started listening, I thought I was going to have to send a follow-up question when you said counts have nothing to do with accuracy, but you answered my question in reference to the +/- count issue at the end. Thanks.

]]> By: Kathy Quinlan http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-779 Kathy Quinlan Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:57:22 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-779 I used to have a nice push button clamp meter (used to as the shed in a place we were renting leaked and it was in a plastic create and it was submerged) It seemed reasonably accurate on low ohms (which surprised me, I only bought it as an ac clamp meter to measure current draw when doing stage lighting (HRC fuse links are EXPENSIVE) and hard to get on a Friday night ;)) I usually check all my meters against each other, I really need a new meter... Family, if I put it on the Christmas list, would buy from a hobby shop (eg DSE, Jaycar, Altronics) and they do not sell quality (finally convinced the Ministry of finance that you get what you pay for) so what is a good brand, one that is as good as advertised ? I used to have a nice push button clamp meter (used to as the shed in a place we were renting leaked and it was in a plastic create and it was submerged)

It seemed reasonably accurate on low ohms (which surprised me, I only bought it as an ac clamp meter to measure current draw when doing stage lighting (HRC fuse links are EXPENSIVE) and hard to get on a Friday night ;) )

I usually check all my meters against each other, I really need a new meter… Family, if I put it on the Christmas list, would buy from a hobby shop (eg DSE, Jaycar, Altronics) and they do not sell quality (finally convinced the Ministry of finance that you get what you pay for) so what is a good brand, one that is as good as advertised ?

]]> By: ewertz http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-774 ewertz Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:05:19 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-774 My advice to David-final-year-electronics-undergraduate would be to start reading the complete works of Dilbert, paying particular attention to the trials and tribulations of Ashok. My advice to David-final-year-electronics-undergraduate would be to start reading the complete works of Dilbert, paying particular attention to the trials and tribulations of Ashok.

]]> By: Mastro Gippo http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-772 Mastro Gippo Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:56:57 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-772 David, one last question before I click the "Buy it now" button.. Since the 100MHz and the 50MHz models of the Rigol scope have very little differences, and I see that you are able to measure the static charge at 100MHz with your Rigol, do you think it's worth the extra money to get the 100MHz version? It's almost double price.. I don't know what I will need in future, so I'm thinking in a "better-to-be-safe-than-sorry" way. Thank you David, one last question before I click the “Buy it now” button.. Since the 100MHz and the 50MHz models of the Rigol scope have very little differences, and I see that you are able to measure the static charge at 100MHz with your Rigol, do you think it’s worth the extra money to get the 100MHz version? It’s almost double price.. I don’t know what I will need in future, so I’m thinking in a “better-to-be-safe-than-sorry” way.
Thank you

]]> By: admin http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-765 admin Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:55:37 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-765 You can now get the Rigol for around AU$480 *delivered* from sellers on Ebay! Insanely low price. You can now get the Rigol for around AU$480 *delivered* from sellers on Ebay! Insanely low price.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-759 Andrew Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:31:21 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-759 Kathy, don't dismiss the new GW Instek GDS-1000A series. Instek beefed up the older GDS-1000 series. Kathy, don’t dismiss the new GW Instek GDS-1000A series. Instek beefed up the older GDS-1000 series.

]]> By: Kathy Quinlan http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-755 Kathy Quinlan Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:28:02 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-755 Mastro, I have put the rigol on my Christmas list ;) Kat. Mastro, I have put the rigol on my Christmas list ;)

Kat.

]]> By: David http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-748 David Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:10:53 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-748 Hi David, I thought I'd just commend you on your excellent blogs! I have picked up many great tips and hope to learn many more. As a final year electronics undergraduate, I would love to have more of an insight into the day-to-day activities of an electronics engineer in industry. It would be interesting to see whether my idea of what happens is much different to what actually does. I hope you potentially consider this for a future blog! Dave Hi David,
I thought I’d just commend you on your excellent blogs! I have picked up many great tips and hope to learn many more.

As a final year electronics undergraduate, I would love to have more of an insight into the day-to-day activities of an electronics engineer in industry. It would be interesting to see whether my idea of what happens is much different to what actually does. I hope you potentially consider this for a future blog!

Dave

]]> By: Kathy Quinlan http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-745 Kathy Quinlan Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:37:43 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-745 I quite like the fluke meters, I started of in 1990 with a Fluke 77, then bout the Fluke 29 (a 79 meter in safety yellow (helps to find it on the bench when working on something that is opened up (like an industrial UPS))) I have a ISOtech meter in my install kit, basic thing with no large current scale (ie only measures upto 300mA IIRC) I have never had a hand held meter better than a Fluke. Would be interested in others opinions on the other brands :) Kat. I quite like the fluke meters, I started of in 1990 with a Fluke 77, then bout the Fluke 29 (a 79 meter in safety yellow (helps to find it on the bench when working on something that is opened up (like an industrial UPS)))

I have a ISOtech meter in my install kit, basic thing with no large current scale (ie only measures upto 300mA IIRC)

I have never had a hand held meter better than a Fluke. Would be interested in others opinions on the other brands :)

Kat.

]]> By: Mastro Gippo http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-744 Mastro Gippo Sat, 22 Aug 2009 09:12:43 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-744 Damn, I must stop wieving your videos... You made me buy the Rigol oscope, now I find myself browsing ebay for a new multimeter... And I already own a Fluke 73!!! :) Well, I actually was already on the market for a cheap oscope, but I couldn't convince myself to get a crappy OWON... My friend got one, and it's a relly poor choice! I'm glad I found your review before purchasing one. Oh.. Nice shirt! It's my motto too! :) Damn, I must stop wieving your videos… You made me buy the Rigol oscope, now I find myself browsing ebay for a new multimeter… And I already own a Fluke 73!!! :) Well, I actually was already on the market for a cheap oscope, but I couldn’t convince myself to get a crappy OWON… My friend got one, and it’s a relly poor choice! I’m glad I found your review before purchasing one.

Oh.. Nice shirt! It’s my motto too! :)

]]> By: Matt McCartney http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-741 Matt McCartney Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:03:01 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-741 Hey Mr. Jones, I'll be waiting to hear about power supplies and function generators :) Hey Mr. Jones, I’ll be waiting to hear about power supplies and function generators :)

]]> By: admin http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-735 admin Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:10:20 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-735 Thanks for the heads-up on the Meterman. Guess I haven't had mine long enough to encounter any issues. The range switch is always the biggest problem with meters of all types. Not so top-quality gold playing on the contacts in the case of the Meterman perhaps? I still don't like how the base model Flukes use the range switch for ON/OFF that's just extra wear'n'tear on the range switch. Thanks for the heads-up on the Meterman. Guess I haven’t had mine long enough to encounter any issues. The range switch is always the biggest problem with meters of all types. Not so top-quality gold playing on the contacts in the case of the Meterman perhaps?
I still don’t like how the base model Flukes use the range switch for ON/OFF that’s just extra wear’n'tear on the range switch.

]]> By: Brian Hoskins http://www.eevblog.com/2009/08/21/eevblog-26-multimeter-counts-accuracy-resolution-calibration/comment-page-1/#comment-732 Brian Hoskins Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:45:07 +0000 http://www.alternatezone.com/eevblog/?p=147#comment-732 I have to admit that even as an Engineer working in the trade, I have often found myself confused with this accuracy / count business. Also, having questioned colleagues on it, I have found that the confusion is quite wide spread. So it's not only newcomers to the industry that can find themselves uncertain about exactly what it means! Very good blog this one :) On a slightly different note, I have to say that whilst I do share your passion for Fluke multimeter instruments and also HP bench multimeter instruments, I do not share your approval for the Meterman stuff. The meter itself is quite good but we bought a load of these for our company staff a couple of years ago and I've found that a lot of them share a common problem with resistance measurements. Often they don't read accurately when measuring <100 Ohms, which seems to have something to do with the actual measurement selection switch because sometimes if you press down on it the problem can be temporarily cured. Not all of the meters do it, but quite a few have developed the problem over time so it seems to be a poor quality aspect of the meter. Also I find the continuity beeper to be too quiet, which is frustrating in general use - especially if you find yourself having to buzz something out on a factory shop floor or something like that. Keep up the good blogs! Brian I have to admit that even as an Engineer working in the trade, I have often found myself confused with this accuracy / count business. Also, having questioned colleagues on it, I have found that the confusion is quite wide spread. So it’s not only newcomers to the industry that can find themselves uncertain about exactly what it means!

Very good blog this one :)

On a slightly different note, I have to say that whilst I do share your passion for Fluke multimeter instruments and also HP bench multimeter instruments, I do not share your approval for the Meterman stuff. The meter itself is quite good but we bought a load of these for our company staff a couple of years ago and I’ve found that a lot of them share a common problem with resistance measurements. Often they don’t read accurately when measuring <100 Ohms, which seems to have something to do with the actual measurement selection switch because sometimes if you press down on it the problem can be temporarily cured. Not all of the meters do it, but quite a few have developed the problem over time so it seems to be a poor quality aspect of the meter. Also I find the continuity beeper to be too quiet, which is frustrating in general use – especially if you find yourself having to buzz something out on a factory shop floor or something like that.

Keep up the good blogs!

Brian

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