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Offline mingming

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AD18
« on: May 27, 2017, 12:01:31 AM »
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Re: AD18
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2017, 12:08:54 AM »
We've made it faster.

We've also completely changed the UI so you'll need ten times as long to get things done.
 
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2017, 01:24:50 AM »
i've seen it. i've played with it. it's good. no more endlessly dragging inspectors around between screens.
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Re: AD18
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2017, 01:43:04 AM »
7 hours to produce gerbers? I would have though the the program just crashed after about 20 minutes. Then again, I never made a 26 layer board with 9000 parts.
 

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Re: AD18
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2017, 06:13:26 PM »
26 layers and 9k+ parts? Christ, who even does that in Altium? I'm amazed it even loaded in the PCB editor.

That kind of a board is solidly in the Cadence Allegro/Mentor Xpedition territory. The cost of a prototyping revision or two for something like that is going to cost at least the price of a seat of Cadence or Mentor, and those are expensive packages.
 

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Re: AD18
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2017, 06:31:57 PM »
You see some things on this forum occasionally that opens your eyes and sticks in your mind.  :o

26 layers and 9k+ parts? Christ, who even does that in Altium? I'm amazed it even loaded in the PCB editor.
This:
i regularly work in collaborative mode. where two or three designers work on the same design. each is allocated specific rooms to work with. we play tag. meaning there is a day shift and a nightshift to keep layout rolling 24/7.

now we have to manually merge files at the end of every day. this involves a lot of copy and paste. especially with complex layer stackups ( blind and buried, stacked via's (laser) split planes etc this is VERY TEDIOUS to re assemble a board every single day.

Last design i did in collaborative was a 22 layer with 6000+ components and 27000+ nets ... 3 mil track and gap. 6 laser layers 8 powerplanes , 8 internal routing layers (buried via). all impedance control and fully length-tuned. DDR5 , gigabit ethernet , HDMI, USB3.0, multiphase regulators for the 0.9 volts CPU core eating 50 ampere... the whole shebang.

Anything that can make my life easier and shave weeks off the design is welcome ...
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Re: AD18
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2017, 06:42:22 AM »
I wonder what the release date will be?
 

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Re: AD18
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2017, 07:57:33 AM »
26 layers and 9k+ parts? Christ, who even does that in Altium? I'm amazed it even loaded in the PCB editor.
you called ?

perfectly possible. no need for torMentor Siemens (they borged Mentor a few weeks ago)  or Crapdance....
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Re: AD18
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2017, 08:47:14 AM »
26 layers and 9k+ parts? Christ, who even does that in Altium? I'm amazed it even loaded in the PCB editor.
you called ?

perfectly possible. no need for torMentor Siemens (they borged Mentor a few weeks ago)  or Crapdance....

Possible maybe.  But vastly easier in Mentor.  I have spent many years spent driving both.

On modest FPGA designs Altium grinds to a halt with on line DRC enabled - in 2005 (!) Mentor did not!
 

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Re: AD18
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2017, 12:17:14 PM »
Is this a Designer update or Atina? Any hints at new features in the analysis area of SI/PDN?
 

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Re: AD18
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2017, 12:40:56 AM »
Damn it, it sounds nice. And my subscription is ending. And management told me to f off, they dont want to spend x EUR on stuff which is not really necessary.
 

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Re: AD18
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2017, 03:04:08 AM »
They gone black????

No!!!!  No !!!!   No-o--o---o !!!!!!! :rant:
 

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Re: AD18
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2017, 07:57:39 AM »
They gone black????

No!!!!  No !!!!   No-o--o---o !!!!!!! :rant:

Relax, its probably like Solidworks or Skype, or hundreds of other apps that now offer a dark theme.
Its a good thing.

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Re: AD18
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2017, 11:44:30 AM »
For those of us who use large format monitors,.   Dark theme is a must...
 

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Re: AD18
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2017, 02:00:32 PM »
Damn it, it sounds nice. And my subscription is ending. And management told me to f off, they dont want to spend x EUR on stuff which is not really necessary.

...yet they continue to cost the company money for their own mostly unnecessary positions.... :-)
 

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Re: AD18
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2017, 04:38:19 PM »
They gone black????

No!!!!  No !!!!   No-o--o---o !!!!!!! :rant:

Relax, its probably like Solidworks or Skype, or hundreds of other apps that now offer a dark theme.
Its a good thing.

Be sure to sign up for EEVBlog BlackĀ©, coming soon.

Dave, can you add a black or dark gray or dark blue UI theme please? It looks awesome!
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Re: AD18
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2017, 03:07:51 AM »
 

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Re: AD18
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2017, 06:10:15 AM »
Dave, can you add a black or dark gray or dark blue UI theme please? It looks awesome!

If you aren't already aware, can try these:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dark-reader/eimadpbcbfnmbkopoojfekhnkhdbieeh?hl=en
http://userstyles.org/styles/681

Many options out there.
 
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Re: AD18
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2017, 10:27:09 PM »
The other new rumored feature is git support...

I am looking forward to the multi-board support.    You can design at the system level and do electrical checks through all of your board/connector/cable interfaces.

 

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Re: AD18
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2017, 01:30:54 AM »
How does a multiboard project handle boards that will mate together directly?  Can you check mechanical clearances between their components?  Enforce alignment of mating connectors?
 

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Re: AD18
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2017, 07:20:11 AM »
Git support would be "yuge"
 

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Re: AD18
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2017, 08:19:05 AM »
Git support would be "yuge"

Careful, you'll scare off the luddites.
 

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Re: AD18
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2017, 03:23:11 AM »
They should fix basics...

Like add through hole part batch generation to IPC-wizard and allow you to redefine how mouse navigation works.

I want to pan with middle click and zoom with scroll wheel like in 95% of other software.

But no... ;(

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Re: AD18
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2017, 09:49:32 AM »
They should fix basics...
I want to pan with middle click and zoom with scroll wheel like in 95% of other software.
But no... ;(
The scroll wheel has complete configuration options:
http://www.altium.com/documentation/17.0/display/ADES/WorkspaceManager_Dlg-SysPrefsForm_MouseWheel((System+-+Mouse+Wheel+Configuration))_AD
Middle click vs right click for panning is a little more complicated but should still be possible to remap also.
 

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Re: AD18
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2017, 11:44:56 AM »
finally multi board design  :-+
 


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