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Offline floobydust

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Re: Altium About To Slash Prices On Designer?
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2017, 02:22:52 AM »
The CAD lifecycle:

Little CAD co. makes good CAD software
Mr. Big corporation buys little CAD co.
Crank up the price
Spam it by adding half-assed features
Bugs and complexity go up
Crank up the price
Add useless features
Crank up the price
Customers flee to other product
Crank up the price
Lower the price
Mr. Big corporation abandons that CAD development and support
Crank up the price
Mr. Big corporation sells off Little CAD co. line
Repeat
 

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Re: Altium About To Slash Prices On Designer?
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2017, 05:38:12 AM »
In the middle of a project so not a lot of time, but I wanted to circle back and at least state that i'm glad I pulled the trigger on the deal.  Capture is easy to use.  The PCB tool is not as intuitive but I get the sense that is because I am new to it and that there is a lot of depth to it.  I would be struggling if the package didn't include the training manuals, but it did and that is what I am using.  Once I have more time I will add to this, but that's all i've got for now.  :-+
 
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Re: Altium About To Slash Prices On Designer?
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2017, 05:54:31 AM »
In the middle of a project so not a lot of time, but I wanted to circle back and at least state that i'm glad I pulled the trigger on the deal.  Capture is easy to use.  The PCB tool is not as intuitive but I get the sense that is because I am new to it and that there is a lot of depth to it.  I would be struggling if the package didn't include the training manuals, but it did and that is what I am using.  Once I have more time I will add to this, but that's all i've got for now.  :-+
I agree. Once you get over initial hump, it all suddenly starts making a lot of sense :) I also would like to note that their support is also extremely good. After I migrated from Std version to Pro, there were some issues with not all tools picking up on this change, but a working solution has been offered in mere minutes.  FE is quick and helpful. The only negative so far is that I had few crashes of both PCB Editor and Capture, but that might be on me as I was doing something stupid ::)
I'm still trying to come up with some sort of way to organise all those symbols/padstacks/footprints/3d models in a way that would make sense :) I use free version of PCB Library Expert for creating footprints and 3D models right now.
 

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Re: Altium About To Slash Prices On Designer?
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2017, 06:54:02 AM »
asmi: it's funny you brought up sym/fp/3d for parts...I JUST used something called ultralibrarian for orcad - the orcad came wiith a free sub to it and I just used it for a part I needed - pretty awesome.  when I first talked to the sales girl I asked about organizing parts and she ssaid theres something called cip to do that.  I  dont have enough parts yet for it to be a problem
 

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Re: Altium About To Slash Prices On Designer?
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2017, 08:40:36 AM »
asmi: it's funny you brought up sym/fp/3d for parts...I JUST used something called ultralibrarian for orcad - the orcad came wiith a free sub to it and I just used it for a part I needed - pretty awesome. 
Yea, I know about that, but I'm still on a trial version, so I don't yet have access to UL. Still, their "Create part from spreadsheet" is very good - it allows to create a table in Excel, and then just copy-paste it there.
But I meant mostly organizing physical files with padstacks/footprints/3d models, as each one of them is a separate file, so just dumping them into single folder will quickly create unmanageable mess.
when I first talked to the sales girl I asked about organizing parts and she ssaid theres something called cip to do that.  I  dont have enough parts yet for it to be a problem
You should've asked her how much is it :-DD
 

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Re: Altium About To Slash Prices On Designer?
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2017, 09:35:23 AM »
Talking about libraries, I actually don't reuse much of them. I almost always redraw my footprints used for each project to fit the exact needs.
For instance, if I have a board full of THT and SOIC parts, I will likely to extend pad size for easier soldering.
If I have a board full of BGA and 0201, then I will shrink footprints to be barely covering actual component to save every mil of space.
Sometimes I work with PCBWay, sometimes WellPCB, sometimes OSHPark, sometimes WEDirekt, and each fab has their own min feature rules, and I optimize footprints accordingly.

There are some components, such as those SOT883 transistors, that are very sensitive to footprint, and a little bit screwing up will cause quality issues, I usually use the same footprint all the time after nailing down the perfect one.
These are the exceptions to my new footprint p new board rule.
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Re: Altium About To Slash Prices On Designer?
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2017, 07:02:14 PM »
Talking about libraries, I actually don't reuse much of them.
That is OK, but unlike students, engineers have deadlines. I have so many libraries, that I can roll out simple PCB design in a day if necessary.


Any news of the price drop?
 

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Re: Altium About To Slash Prices On Designer?
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2017, 07:57:01 PM »
Sometimes I work with PCBWay, sometimes WellPCB, sometimes OSHPark, sometimes WEDirekt, and each fab has their own min feature rules, and I optimize footprints accordingly.

Yikes.
 

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Re: Altium About To Slash Prices On Designer?
« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2017, 03:18:25 AM »
Well, so much for that rumor.

Quote from: Altium Account Manager
Subscription renewal rates effective October 2017 for all customers who have yet to renew are set to increase.
License purchase rates are increasing effective September 18th 2017. Any license purchased before September 18th will be honored at the lower previous price.

Subscriptions are going up by about a hundred bucks.  Not sure on the license pricing.
 

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Re: Altium About To Slash Prices On Designer?
« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2017, 05:44:53 AM »
Well, so much for that rumor.

Quote from: Altium Account Manager
Subscription renewal rates effective October 2017 for all customers who have yet to renew are set to increase.
License purchase rates are increasing effective September 18th 2017. Any license purchased before September 18th will be honored at the lower previous price.

Subscriptions are going up by about a hundred bucks.  Not sure on the license pricing.

I'm glad I purchased subscription all the way to 2019. They told me the price will increase, and they gave me ~50% off current price before raise (I paid totally ~$2.7k plus tax for lapsed 2015.12~2017.6 subscription and 2 years from 2017.6.30~2019.6.30, totally 3.5 years for $2.7k, or $771/yr).
I'm definitely looking forward to their AD18 in C#, to be released in just a few weeks. I think the official release date is set to Oct. 3 at their San Diego Summit.
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Re: Altium About To Slash Prices On Designer?
« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2017, 10:26:03 AM »
That's too bad.  I was hoping it would be equal or better than the 2009ish price drop.
I suppose I'll look into buying OrCad -- at the current price and higher for Altium, OrCad seems like it may be a better financial proposition.

Well, so much for that rumor.

Quote from: Altium Account Manager
Subscription renewal rates effective October 2017 for all customers who have yet to renew are set to increase.
License purchase rates are increasing effective September 18th 2017. Any license purchased before September 18th will be honored at the lower previous price.

Subscriptions are going up by about a hundred bucks.  Not sure on the license pricing.
 


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