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Offline DerekG

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Re: Anybody still using Protel PCB 2.8?
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2017, 12:41:22 AM »
Interesting. I wasn't really satisfied with the older version of diptrace, but the new version seems to work pretty good actually.
Hopefully the makers are reading along, because I am missing ....... like keyboard shortcuts

DipTrace 3.0 introduced user configurable keyboard shortcuts. I have configured many of the keyboard shortcuts to replicate those of Altium Designer.

as well as the ability to change a whole range of values/footprints (which is a must have with big boards).

There are lots of options here too in DipTrace. You can update the library component & choose to then update all footprints to match the new library component, or you can change just the pads on a specific component on the board in just a couple of clicks ............ or highlight say half a dozen components (they may be the same or all different) & choose to update all or just some of the pad dimensions or just the hole size or both.

A very nice feature that even AD does not currently offer is the ability to change from metric to imperial (or vice versa) with just a single keyboard shortcut of your choice ........... even when you have multiple pop up windows open (ie you have the pad's parameters dialog box open & want to cycle through from imperial to metric).

How good is the PADS import feature with older PADS boards? If that works smoothless it's really a win for us. Because a lot of designs are still in the old PADS format.

I import & export to/from Altium via the PCAD filter with good success (the only thing that screws up a bit is the silk screen overlay).

I do not use PADS so I can't advise .......... however you can download a fully functional DipTrace ver 3.2 & try it for 30 days for free ..... so why not give it a try yourself.
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Offline peter-h

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Re: Anybody still using Protel PCB 2.8?
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2017, 06:19:46 AM »
Where can one find 99SE SP6?

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Re: Anybody still using Protel PCB 2.8?
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2017, 06:08:02 PM »
Don't know if Altium still sells it, I'd guess no for obvious reasons. A simple backup of the installation CD files won't be very useful because you'd need the license key. AFAIR, the older version Protel keys don't work on 99SE.
Searching the net for "Protel 99SE full" brings up various warez and serialz sites, usually nasty, dangerous and useless, but there might come up somewhere a useable and non-infected version, but that's your own risk.

That's quite interesting: Everybodys favourite darling search the net engine brings up a short notice with a link to a "technical unit for luminous flux" database listing a lot of URLs pointing to sites that claim to offer "free" versions of whatever software. It's up to the reader to decide wheter using this information is compliant to local legislation.
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Re: Anybody still using Protel PCB 2.8?
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2018, 12:42:52 PM »
I still fire up 2.8 every so often. It was the last (best) Windows version before the silly client / server stuff was brought in (DXP, Altium etc). 98 was the first useful version of that client / server naffness that worked ok IMO. I paid for the naffness, but was effectively stuck on 2.8 for years until they sorted themselves out.

I was originally irritated by 99 and its DDB naffness (but that has its handy sides). But same problem, I upgraded to whatever the 2006 version was but despite being on that bandwagon I effectively didn't use Altium until about 2013. It's like flushing money down the toilet, the flip side is 99SE worked and was very popular and I got work. I use 99SE all the time - about half my clients still use it, though that number is dropping, and it's rarely used for the big boards these days, so in reality it has fallen behind (mostly used for pumping out small revision updates). 99SE does import 2.8 very well, but I think Altium imports 2.8 fine as well.

I'm kind of stuck on AD13 now, due to our last government bringing in rules which restrict companies where an owner has a relative with a disability from making capex purchases, and significantly more evil stuff like that (but that's the way the whole world seems to be going). At least it's a fairly good version too.

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