ATINA?

[Fgrir]

I just got that in an email as well.  Of course the same email told me that we really need to renew right now because our subscription expires today (it doesn't), so who knows.

I just got the same email - it's a great feeling to see "Final notice - Altium Designer expiring" in your inbox 7 weeks before the actual expiration date 

[julianhigginson]

IMHO the subscription model is completely absurd especially for one man bands. It is almost for sure that a one man band will never get the value from latest software compared to the cost spent on subscription. An one man band doesn't have the time to learn new features and doesn't have enough users to make full leverage of the software, unlike big organizations.

you need the latest version if you want to be able to work on files other people have done, and collaborate effectively.

also, speak for yourself about what new things you have time to learn. I learn new stuff all the time. :-)

I certainly don't get the value from vaults that they charge for it, so I haven't got that myself (but I *do* have a client who uses vaults, and I connect to their vault to do work with them - if I didn't have up to date AD, that would be hard)

[janekm]

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I'm not a professional PCB engineer. I don't see much merit for me to spend tons of time on learning new features that I will never use. I just need the features of Eagle or KiCAD, in a much easy to use UI experience. I'm not paying for AD's powerful features, instead, I'm paying for its easiness.

Well to be fair to Altium, they did release Circuitstudio for your use case... I think they are somewhat spoiling that market by limiting the file compatibility too much though...

[stj]

just reading through this,
the company is dumb.

it's only a matter of time before you wont be able to run 32bit software.
Linux already has it relegated to requiring a "compatability package" installed,
windows will follow.

i had a 64bit machine over 20 years ago, what the hell are these people smoking?
btw, i'm pretty sure you could use scripting to convert Delphi sourcecode to regular Modula2 or whatever it was a clone of.

[voltsandjolts]

They told me they have a time limited 15% discount and I was naive enough to believe that shit. Three months later CS made its debut.

Don't beat yourself up about that.
When CS first appeared it was way too expensive (IIRC 3KUSD) and with an uncertain future, so I think Designer would still have been the right choice at that point.

[Macbeth]

i had a 64bit machine over 20 years ago, what the hell are these people smoking?
btw, i'm pretty sure you could use scripting to convert Delphi sourcecode to regular Modula2 or whatever it was a clone of.

Yes, this could be done fairly easily at first blush. Except there are probably lots of calls to the old Win32 API, and I can guarantee a good few 32 bit .dll's and even .ocx written by long gone developers that nobody has a clue how the fuck they work. 

[stj]

maybe,

i dont know how it got to that point though.

i still remember when the pc was a toy, and REAL design software ran on my 64bit SGI Indigo2 workstation.
( complete with FLEXLM license manager  )

[T3sl4co1l]

( complete with FLEXLM license manager  )

A festering scab on the anus of bad software that still has yet to die 

Tim

[ehughes]

Here is my guess.....    AD18 is Atina (i.e.  no high end version),   Mutli-board design with system level DRC,  A new 3d engine that will allow it to support multiplatform, 64bit,  support for large (20 layer+) designs....

[Fire Doger]

Here is my guess.....    AD18 is Atina (i.e.  no high end version),   Mutli-board design with system level DRC,  A new 3d engine that will allow it to support multiplatform, 64bit,  support for large (20 layer+) designs....

I can bet on that!
I am sure plan was "ok let's make a different package for every use" then they released Circuit Maker, Circuit Studio and they found that developers can't update/debug 4 packages simultaneously.... (Crazy huh?)
At least? someone was thinking before releasing it!

[Gibson486]

50% off what?

They keep pulling these tricks. They said there were going to give me a great deal on a new license. It cost more than our first one. I was expecting him to just repeat our first license price.... he acted all surprised that I was expecting it cheaper.

[free_electron]

Atina is NOT a PCB design tool !. that is a misconception.
Atina is a workflow manager. it routes the design process. the pcb / schematic system is still Altium Designer. Atina heavily banks on the vault and routes data between departments. it is a collaboration system.