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Re: Did Altium backpedal on FPGAs
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2016, 09:51:50 am »
I agree. FPGA support is no more default.
 

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Re: Did Altium backpedal on FPGAs
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2017, 03:58:52 am »
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Re: Did Altium backpedal on FPGAs
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2017, 11:42:41 am »
Do altium support FPGA?
 

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Re: Did Altium backpedal on FPGAs
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2017, 02:35:09 pm »
No "support " anymore in terms of active support, only for legacy/regression purpose, i.e. trying to not break what was already there, i guess until dropping it all together at some point.
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Re: Did Altium backpedal on FPGAs
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2017, 06:43:00 am »
I never used Altium so forgive me if I say something stupid …

If I have, for example, board with FPGA / CPLD and some other parts as well (74series, maybe some analog parts). Is it possible to do the simulation of this kind of board in Altium? Or any other tool?

 

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Re: Did Altium backpedal on FPGAs
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2017, 07:04:32 am »
If I have, for example, board with FPGA / CPLD and some other parts as well (74series, maybe some analog parts). Is it possible to do the simulation of this kind of board in Altium? Or any other tool?
You want Mixed-Mode Simulation. There are systems that can do that, including NI Multisim, which is (or was) bundled with Quartus and ISE.
 

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Re: Did Altium backpedal on FPGAs
« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2017, 07:13:12 am »
I never used Altium so forgive me if I say something stupid …

If I have, for example, board with FPGA / CPLD and some other parts as well (74series, maybe some analog parts). Is it possible to do the simulation of this kind of board in Altium? Or any other tool?

Some tools, perhaps.  You won't find general SPICE models of most of those things.  You're much better off testing each subcircuit on its own.  And of those, only the analog section needs SPICE simulation, if at all.  The digital section can be simulated or emulated with an event-driven simulator.  (There are mixed signal SPICE environments (Altium uses SimCode), but they usually suck.)

After all, if you're not doing unit testing, what hope do you have to test the whole freakin' thing? ;)

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Re: Did Altium backpedal on FPGAs
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2017, 12:55:31 am »
There is a Spice program called Tina that will do mixed mode with VHDL and spice.  It's reasonably priced.  There is a free version from TI.  I don't know if it has VHDL. 
I use it when my spice modeling requires complicated controls that are not easy to implement in spice.

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Re: Did Altium backpedal on FPGAs
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2017, 11:09:42 pm »
FYI, according to my sale representative and his manager fpga development has been completely removed from the upcoming AD18. I consider this unfortunate. I've used this functionality for years for relatively simple one time test boards. Would do any really complicated fpga development in AD but it was great for relatively simple glue logic for a board used for testing products.
 

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Re: Did Altium backpedal on FPGAs
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2017, 02:39:10 am »
fpga development has been completely removed from the upcoming AD18

Well, just keep your copy of Altium 18 loaded so you can continue to use it.

Altium have done such a poor job of FPGA implementation compared to the OEM vendors that very few people bother with it in Altium. Altium management have now realised this after 15 years & have now decided to dump it accordingly.
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Re: Did Altium backpedal on FPGAs
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2017, 03:01:30 am »
FYI, according to my sale representative and his manager fpga development has been completely removed from the upcoming AD18.

More than a decade later I can officially say to my former employer "I told you so"  ;D
 


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