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Offline ChrisGreece52Topic starter

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1 Bit permanent memory
« on: November 19, 2015, 10:07:55 pm »
Hello i wrote again about a project i am working on and need help again ... i need a memory cell to store a 5v signal for a long time i am talking about months here... i dont need it to store the bit without power but as long as it is plugged in i need to be able to store one bit of info.
I did a google search and i found memory modules using not and nand gates but i am not sure if this is permanent or just temporary (for a few minutes)
I need your help with this .
Thank you in advance :)
 

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Re: 1 Bit permanent memory
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2015, 10:21:45 pm »
74HC574 will let you store 8 bits for as long as you like.

You can create an equivalent circuit from  NAND gates, but you won't save any space on the board.
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Re: 1 Bit permanent memory
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2015, 10:22:42 pm »
74HC574 will let you store 8 bits for as long as you like.

You can create an equivalent circuit from  NAND gates, but you won't save any space on the board.
Thank you very much now i can get down designing the final circuit
 

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Re: 1 Bit permanent memory
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2015, 10:23:24 pm »
A "D" Flipflop, does exactly what you want, or maybe a set/reset latch, which is better depends on your available control signals.

Regards, Dan.
 

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Re: 1 Bit permanent memory
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2015, 10:30:03 pm »
How about using a very low current fast fuse?
(or something else that will blow quickly at the slightest but of current)

Connect it between GND and a pullup resistor.
When read it will read Low.
To write once you connect it to VCC. Current will flow and the fuse blows.
When you read it again there is no short to GND and the pullup resistor will give a High reading.

Takes just 2 components and will retain it's value even after poweroff.
 

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Re: 1 Bit permanent memory
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2015, 11:06:18 pm »
i would like to be able to write and read several times... so the d type flip flop is a good solution  ;D
 

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Re: 1 Bit permanent memory
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2015, 05:16:30 am »
 

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Re: 1 Bit permanent memory
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2015, 06:25:18 am »
« Last Edit: November 20, 2015, 06:27:37 am by Richard Crowley »
 

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Re: 1 Bit permanent memory
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2015, 08:29:58 am »
TI "Little Logic" SOT-23 size D flip-flop
That's so cute. I wonder if anyone has built a computer out of these... TTL and through-hole transistors have been done a few times already.
 

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Re: 1 Bit permanent memory
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2015, 10:56:39 am »
You may use a thyristor made from two transistors.

« Last Edit: November 20, 2015, 11:02:05 am by rgawron »
 

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Re: 1 Bit permanent memory
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2015, 11:08:22 am »
You may use a thyristor made from two transistors.
Or use a thyristor made from one thyristor ; )
 

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Re: 1 Bit permanent memory
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2015, 01:06:01 pm »
A bistable can be made from a couple of transistors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multivibrator#Bistable
 

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Re: 1 Bit permanent memory
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2015, 01:28:21 pm »
OP may also want to add a Led, and use it as a very cheap logic analyzer. ;)
 

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Re: 1 Bit permanent memory
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2015, 01:34:05 pm »
You may use a thyristor made from two transistors.
Or use a thyristor made from one thyristor ; )

But how do you make the first thyristor?

:)
 

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Re: 1 Bit permanent memory
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2015, 02:01:39 pm »
But how do you make the first thyristor?

:)

Out of a thyristor, obviously. :P
 

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Re: 1 Bit permanent memory
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2015, 02:25:52 pm »
But how do you make the first thyristor?

:)

Out of a thyristor, obviously. :P

Touche. :)
 


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