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Offline StubbornGreekTopic starter

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Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« on: May 22, 2012, 12:21:14 am »
Hello all, this is my first post here as I just signed up. I've been lurking around for a while now and really enjoy Dave's videos.

I was hoping someone can point me in the right direction here, I'm looking for a good transformer (not to mention inexpensive) to take the place of a 16VAC (minimum 250mA) wall transformer.

I'm hoping to find something in the ~$5 range (quantity: 100) and I'm located in the US (I've checked Mouser and Digikey but didn't come across anything that was cost-effective).

BTW, thanks for a great forum.
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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 01:25:58 am »
Ebay is a good source for such things.
 

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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 01:39:47 am »
Assuming your wallwart was AC, maybe something such as this?

16VAC (8x2), $6.74/50, 300mA
http://www.newark.com/hammond/164e16/bobbins-transformer-2x8v-2-4va/dp/79R6758

$5.15/50 520mA
http://www.newark.com/hammond/161fa16/bobbins-transformer/dp/66F7590


Those are getting pretty low in price compared to what I have seen lately.
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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 01:40:25 am »
Ebay is a good source for such things.

Hmm, I suppose I could try and find a Chinese supplier through ebay (individually priced components on ebay aren't always the best deal in my experience), thanks for the idea.

Does anyone have any experience working with any particular one?
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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2012, 01:41:59 am »
Why not just take the existing transformer out of its case and put it where you need it?
 

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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2012, 01:42:22 am »
Assuming your wallwart was AC, maybe something such as this?

16VAC (8x2), $6.74/50, 300mA
http://www.newark.com/hammond/164e16/bobbins-transformer-2x8v-2-4va/dp/79R6758

$5.15/50 520mA
http://www.newark.com/hammond/161fa16/bobbins-transformer/dp/66F7590


Those are getting pretty low in price compared to what I have seen lately.

This is excellent! Thank you for the links.
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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2012, 01:43:17 am »
Why not just take the existing transformer out of its case and put it where you need it?

Sorry but you lost me.  :-[

There is no existing transformer.
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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2012, 01:47:50 am »
Why not just take the existing transformer out of its case and put it where you need it?

Sorry but you lost me.  :-[

There is no existing transformer.

I believe he meant purchase any wallwart that puts out 16VAC, and rip the transformer out of the wallwart. Free if you only wanted one and already have a wallwart to spare.
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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 01:52:18 am »
Why not just take the existing transformer out of its case and put it where you need it?

Sorry but you lost me.  :-[

There is no existing transformer.

I believe he meant purchase any wallwart that puts out 16VAC, and rip the transformer out of the wallwart. Free if you only wanted one and already have a wallwart to spare.

Oh, I see. Not the case though, I need many of them and was trying to hit a lower price point (about half) to the WAU16-500 at Mouser. Even if there was an outlet transformer that I 'could' take apart and use for half the price, I still wouldn't do this as I need much more than one.  :)
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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2012, 01:56:19 am »
Do you need them as warts or just loose transformers? If the latter, try looking up manufacturers directly if you need lots.
 

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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2012, 01:58:31 am »
Do you need them as warts or just loose transformers? If the latter, try looking up manufacturers directly if you need lots.

I need the loose transformers. I didn't think going to the manufacturer with a need of only 100 (200 max) would be fruitful. Do you know if they actually deal in such quantities?
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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2012, 02:05:32 am »
Do you need them as warts or just loose transformers? If the latter, try looking up manufacturers directly if you need lots.

I need the loose transformers. I didn't think going to the manufacturer with a need of only 100 (200 max) would be fruitful. Do you know if they actually deal in such quantities?

The chinese ones won't, but smaller local ones may. It depends if it's a stock item or not.

http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/241-5-16/595-1046-ND/952916 $5.79/100, chassis mount.
http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/PC-16-640/595-1109-ND/952979 $5.91/100, through-hole.

Unless you go to the Chinese you'll find it hard to go below $5 each I imagine.
 

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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2012, 04:51:01 am »
Do you need them as warts or just loose transformers? If the latter, try looking up manufacturers directly if you need lots.

I need the loose transformers. I didn't think going to the manufacturer with a need of only 100 (200 max) would be fruitful. Do you know if they actually deal in such quantities?

The chinese ones won't, but smaller local ones may. It depends if it's a stock item or not.

http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/241-5-16/595-1046-ND/952916 $5.79/100, chassis mount.
http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/PC-16-640/595-1109-ND/952979 $5.91/100, through-hole.

Unless you go to the Chinese you'll find it hard to go below $5 each I imagine.

Thank you. I appreciate all the help from everyone.
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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2012, 08:27:31 am »
If you don't absolutely require AC output why not a cheap SMPS? A lot of devices that take AC inputs have a rectifier inside so they should be fine with a DC input.
 

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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2012, 03:52:12 pm »
If you don't absolutely require AC output why not a cheap SMPS? A lot of devices that take AC inputs have a rectifier inside so they should be fine with a DC input.

The circuit actually has a dc element (batteries for mobile operation) so if I use a dc adapter, the batteries will at least partially be in use when the device is plugged in.
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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2012, 03:56:20 pm »
Amazon
 

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Re: Best Alternative to Wallwart?
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2012, 04:26:21 pm »
Wow, I honestly can't believe how much support I've gotten from this community in such a short time.

I think I'm going to go the route where I contact a US manufacturer directly and see if they'll sell me 100-200 units directly.
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