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Decade box and dc electronic load
« on: July 04, 2013, 02:04:03 am »
Hi,

Dumb question, but i'm wondering what's the difference between a decade resistance box and an electronic load.
 

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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2013, 02:07:40 am »
Resistance boxes are generally not made to dissipate much power (often 1W max), whereas loads will frequently do 25, 50, 100W. Also, loads can be set to a specified current as well as resistance, and will often provide some monitoring features.

On the other hand, a load is a poor approximation of a resistor, so you wouldn't exactly want to use a DC load set to constant resistance mode to choose a feedback resistor for an op amp.
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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2013, 02:11:02 am »
So, it's only an issue of power dissipation?
 

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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2013, 02:11:57 am »
Also, loads can be set to a specified current as well as resistance, and will often provide some monitoring features.

On the other hand, a load is a poor approximation of a resistor, so you wouldn't exactly want to use a DC load set to constant resistance mode to choose a feedback resistor for an op amp.
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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2013, 02:15:10 am »
Hi,

Dumb question, but i'm wondering what's the difference between a decade resistance box and an electronic load.



a decade resistance box is a series of resistors, in which you can select any resistor you want to apply to a circuit or a breadboard for testing or trying to find a replacement for an unknown resistor. you wouldn't want to use it as a "load"

an electronic load is for testing a device for minimum or maximum current draw, to see when and where the load drops out or starts to work / regulate.   this will be able to handle larger amounts of current.

 

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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2013, 02:35:04 am »
To put it succinctly, an electronic load is a current sink.  That's not what a decade resistance box is designed to do.  It is possible to use each as a substitute for the other in limited circumstances, but that's not what they're designed for.
 

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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2013, 02:37:49 am »
There are power decade boxes... Clarostat 240-B, 240-C, and 250, and a few similar ones.  They are still very popular, as you can see from eBay prices.  Nice and simple compared to an electronic load, and of course they also work for AC (although they are made of wirewound resistors).
 

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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2013, 02:42:41 am »
In fact: at school i had one of those... Anyway, a decade resistance box i assume is more accurate than a dc load and will cost much more
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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2013, 02:43:13 am »
and of course they also work for AC (although they are made of wirewound resistors).

That's definitely nice. I wonder how much inductance there is in those wirewound resistors.
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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2013, 02:46:07 am »
There are power decade boxes... Clarostat 240-B, 240-C, and 250, and a few similar ones.  They are still very popular, as you can see from eBay prices.  Nice and simple compared to an electronic load, and of course they also work for AC (although they are made of wirewound resistors).

? wirewond resistor?  :-//
 

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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2013, 02:48:00 am »
Anyway, a decade resistance box i assume is more accurate than a dc load

Not necessarily. Some are calibration-grade, some are crap-grade. That applies to both.

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? wirewond resistor?  :-//

A resistor made by winding resistance wire. Most power resistors tend to be wirewound. They're not the best for AC because the winding gives them inductance as well as resistance. (You can get low-inductance wirewounds, which are wound in such a way that the inductance cancels out.)
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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2013, 02:49:36 am »
It's strange, never hear about wire wounded decade resistance box.
 

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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2013, 02:52:25 am »
The precision one Dave recently tore down used wirewound resistors.
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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2013, 02:54:55 am »
really? I'd missed it.
 

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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2013, 07:20:48 am »
really? I'd missed it.

wow, I have made it a "requirement" to watch every video he has made, or my employee no longer has a job.

Right Steve??? 
 

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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2013, 07:46:20 am »
And when in a pinch, incandescent bulbs are great for loading a supply.
 

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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2013, 07:53:03 am »
:-+ Don't underestimate the utility of common, everyday resistance elements. I have a couple incandescent lamps of different sizes and a length of resistance wire I yanked from a toaster that make for excellent loads in a pinch. The toaster wire's even adjustable.
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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2013, 08:25:48 am »
The guys at The Geek Group use a bunch of light bulbs as a current sink for their "thumper" capacitor bank.
 

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Re: Decade box and dc electronic load
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2013, 04:32:09 pm »
good tip making load whit bulbs!  :-+
 


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