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Offline NMPTopic starter

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Electrolytic Cap in PCB
« on: October 18, 2016, 10:03:30 am »
Hi all,

I just made a project with a uP, check all the datashets, folow the decoupling rules and some evm of the components, made the firmware and It all was working well.

with 3 or more boards connected to the same power supply, if i insert a new one, or disconnect and connect one of them, all the boards make a reset.

If i put a Electrolytic cap on each one  all works well.

Does anyone know how can i prevent/read this?
 

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Re: Electrolytic Cap in PCB
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2016, 10:14:06 am »
Without knowing more about the setup, I would say, as a general rule:
Include a "bulk" electrolytic capacitor on your PCB, if possible, one per rail. They have ESR, which helps dissipating transients, they provide current when it is needed, they reduce the current spikes, and intermittent voltage drops on cables.
 
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Re: Electrolytic Cap in PCB
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2016, 10:14:35 am »
Post schematic and identify the electrolytic you are adding.


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Re: Electrolytic Cap in PCB
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2016, 11:02:43 am »
Thank's!!
One per Rail makes sense..
I have it all in SMD, I see some tantalum, big yellow ones in a lot of projects, but there are some 0805 for instance 47uF, do you think it whould do the job?
 

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Re: Electrolytic Cap in PCB
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2016, 01:32:29 pm »
0805 for instance 47uF
Beware, those are expensive and low voltage.
 

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Re: Electrolytic Cap in PCB
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2016, 01:39:12 pm »
Thank's!!
One per Rail makes sense..
I have it all in SMD, I see some tantalum, big yellow ones in a lot of projects, but there are some 0805 for instance 47uF, do you think it whould do the job?
Well, the 0805 47uF will have 0.1 Ohm ESR, similar size tantalun will have 1 ish Ohm. Look up "snubber". Also, look up the voltage dependence of the ceramic capacitor and the electrolyte.
 

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Re: Electrolytic Cap in PCB
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2016, 02:12:59 pm »
Also you can get SMD versions of electrolytic caps.
 

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Re: Electrolytic Cap in PCB
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