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Offline JohnnyVoxelTopic starter

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Ferrite beads vs low-pass for noise filtering
« on: July 11, 2017, 11:52:51 pm »
Hello,

I have a system on a 24 VDC bus that I am trying to eliminate noise going to. An inverter on the bus is causing a periodic 41khz wave shown in the attachment. My first thought was installing a lowpass filter, but due to the high frequency I'm wondering if a simple ferrite bead would do the trick. Thanks for any insight.

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Re: Ferrite beads vs low-pass for noise filtering
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2017, 11:55:18 pm »
Annnnd... I just realized I measured the wave wrong. My noob is showing :(

Should read 62.5khz
« Last Edit: July 11, 2017, 11:58:20 pm by JohnnyVoxel »
 

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Re: Ferrite beads vs low-pass for noise filtering
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2017, 12:31:29 am »
Ferrite beads have little inductance and at low frequencies <100kHz they don't do much.
You can get some multi-turn ferrite beads, but you need more inductance, 10uH-1mH.

I would add an LC lowpass filter with a resistor across the inductor to dampen it. Don't chose values near the 62.5kHz or its harmonics to avoid resonance.
I have also used 1mH common-mode chokes on 24V vehicles, depending on the load current and the noise source, and if things don't need a direct ground.
 

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Re: Ferrite beads vs low-pass for noise filtering
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2017, 12:34:01 am »
yes, beads are orders of magnitude too low inductance to be effective at 60 kHz

need multiturn inductors and R, C to make a LP filter, or just R, C if your current draw isn't too high
 

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Re: Ferrite beads vs low-pass for noise filtering
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2017, 01:06:44 am »
That's an awfully low frequency to be having a problem with.  Most analog circuits will ride through that just fine, for example.  Can you not simply...get better stuff?  :-//

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Re: Ferrite beads vs low-pass for noise filtering
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2017, 08:02:38 am »
That's an awfully low frequency to be having a problem with.  Most analog circuits will ride through that just fine, for example.  Can you not simply...get better stuff?  :-//

Tim
I agree, it's unlikely it's a problem. He probably just put his 'scope on the +24V line, noticed the noise and worried about it causing interference.
 


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