first oscilloscope

[Pirateguy]

so i might be getting some extra spending cash soon, and now i am looking at buying my first proper oscilloscope.

based on my budget and what is available it will likely be a used analog scope.
i see a number of attractive looking scopes, but i am not quite sure what to look for or look out for.
(except that i want multiple channels and to make sure it comes with probes)

here's the best looking ones i found locally: (links are to a dutch 2nd hand site, but there's pics)

Hameg Dual trace Oscilloscope HM 412 5
https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/doe-het-zelf-en-verbouw/meetapparatuur/m1305606856-oscilloscoop-hameg-hm-412-5.html?c=8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lr

Nameless scope
https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/hobby-en-vrije-tijd/elektronica-componenten/m1302230252-2-kanalen-analoge-oscilloscoop.html?c=8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lr

Chauvin Arnoux CA902 20MHz
https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/doe-het-zelf-en-verbouw/meetapparatuur/m1317592755-chauvin-arnoux-ca902-20mhz-oscilloscoop.html?c=8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lr

Metrix ITT OX725 20MHz
https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/doe-het-zelf-en-verbouw/meetapparatuur/m1317630587-metrix-itt-ox725-20mhz-analoge-oscilloscoop.html?c=8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lr

Beckman Industrial Circuitmate 9020
https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/doe-het-zelf-en-verbouw/meetapparatuur/m1316249436-beckman-industrial-circuitmate-9020-oscilloscoop.html?c=8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lr

LEADER LBO-310A
https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/doe-het-zelf-en-verbouw/meetapparatuur/m1298757062-oscilloscoop.html?c=8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lr

Hameg HM 412 5
https://www.marktplaats.nl/a/doe-het-zelf-en-verbouw/meetapparatuur/m1298757062-oscilloscoop.html?c=8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lr

[ZeroHour]

I'm seeing quite some Philips scopes on Marktplaats, some models with higher bandwidth than the ones you're linking.
Don't know if they're bad, have you considered them?

Examples:
Philips PM3240, dual channel 50MHz, including probes.
https://link.marktplaats.nl/m1322602501

Philips PM3219, dual channel 50MHz, w/out probes, "memory probably defective".
https://link.marktplaats.nl/m1318995630

[Pirateguy]

thanks, but i just came across this great deal:

https://www.banggood.com/nl/Hantek-DSO5102P-USB-Digital-Storage-Oscilloscope-2Channels-100MHz-1GSas-p-1013032.html?rmmds=cart_middle_products&cur_warehouse=CN

at 207 euros, and the fact that this will prolly cover my needs as a hobbyist for life, it's pretty hard to resist.

[garethw]

I went for a PC based scope. I'm an electronic engineering student and wanted a portable solution. I got the Picoscope 2206B. 50 MHz bandwidth, 500 MS/s, 32 MS buffer and a arbitrary waveform generator. 
As a first scope, and as a student, I'm thoroughly pleased with mine. The Picoscope 6 software is great too as it includes a decoding feature for things like I2C, SPI etc.

[MrW0lf]

The Picoscope 6 software is great too as it includes a decoding feature for things like I2C, SPI etc.

With little help from Arduino + DAC or better some faster MC you have "virtual" MSO also, Arduino will listen to some digital comms, convert to analog and pass info to scope for converting back to digital, decoding. Utilizing single analog channel while leaving other free. In very controlled setup I managed to "tunnel" full 8 bits thru analog channel. 4 will go with very large safety margin. So about 6 bits wide bus sounds reasonable. Details here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/picoscope-2000/msg1256909/#msg1256909
Of course one could just get some cheap Saleae clone LA but it is too easy...

[Pirateguy]

wtf are you guys talking about?
that's a 100mhz (can be firmware hacked to 200mhz) DSO for just over 200 euros i linked up there ^^^

i'm telling you now i am sold on this deal.
and today ill find out how many xmas presents i can cash in early and how many meals ill have to skip to get it

[MrW0lf]

wtf are you guys talking about?

Things you cannot do with only raw horsepower But not to worry your deal is good.

[Pirateguy]

as a hobbyist my needs are fairly simple anyway.

and i just pulled the trigger on it