GUYS HELP!!! WE NEED FOR OUR REMOVAL!!! T.T

[Simon]

I know i work with a few people who think they are so clever and are not, but then they mostly do sales. I've had to correct subcontractors work hence they just let me design some stuff.

[oldway]

Houston, we have a problem !
With such students, we never return to the moon 

[Simon]

Houston, we have a problem !
With such students, we never return to the moon 

  Indeed. I think sadly the quality of education has gone down. I struggled at school and now I know it was due to dyslexia, these days I could wipe the floor........

[amyk]

Showing that you know nothing and just want someone else to do the work for you? You deserve to fail.

I think sadly the quality of education has gone down.

Agreed.

[KD0CAC John]

Sadly this thread has gone in 2 negative directions , and I may have helped , assuming from the contest of the OP , they were just trying to find an easy way out ?
1st wrong direction is all the negative feedback , where as the better road to take may have been to try to show / teach how to find the answer - either option at worst the OP just does not come back it would appear , except without the attempt at teaching - we do not know the outcome of that option ;(
2nd is the idea of finding a way of keeping ignorance - ignorant by having an entrance exam to enter the site , at least the OP did put the thread in the beginners heading .
I think that any option to help others learn is a good one .
There are plenty of EE sites that require a degree to use the site and this one never gave me the impression , till now , of this narrow minded concept
Now the normal reaction is to get defensive and take issue with the above - rather than get above all that and try to make things better .
Here's hoping for the high road    

[Simon]

Unfortunately we still live in a society where money counts and gets you a better ticket. I recently watched a programme that showed how there is a widening gap in the UK between poor and well off. The well off can afford internships having afforded university and being brought up in an environment that stimulated the child. Poor people have no chance because we have lost manufacturing. Once you could join a comany and move up if you were bright but these companies are all gone. So attainment is only seen via qualifications and that means that a qualification of any kind is good and gets you where you want and you just need to fudge it or let the system give iot away to you.

I am employed as a project engineer. I have zero qualifications! I am wher I am because I learnt stuff off my own back and have shown an interest in doing things to improve my employers standing. someone in my position with all the qualifications in the world and no aspiration or drive would have gotten nowhere.

[Simon]

Sadly this thread has gone in 2 negative directions , and I may have helped , assuming from the contest of the OP , they were just trying to find an easy way out ?
1st wrong direction is all the negative feedback , where as the better road to take may have been to try to show / teach how to find the answer - either option at worst the OP just does not come back it would appear , except without the attempt at teaching - we do not know the outcome of that option ;(
2nd is the idea of finding a way of keeping ignorance - ignorant by having an entrance exam to enter the site , at least the OP did put the thread in the beginners heading .
I think that any option to help others learn is a good one .
There are plenty of EE sites that require a degree to use the site and this one never gave me the impression , till now , of this narrow minded concept
Now the normal reaction is to get defensive and take issue with the above - rather than get above all that and try to make things better .
Here's hoping for the high road    

The point is the OP has shown no interest at all in the subject and only in having the result manufactured for them. That attitude in itself deserves nothing but scorn. Also note that the OP has not posted any further, to explain or mitigate by maybe showing some interest in the underlying subject matter. The OP is treating this as a supercomputer to get results from with no effort on their part. I for one am not wearing that. the OP shoud be thanking their lucky stars that they did not get an immediate ban! I considered it but decided it would be fun for them to get the reaction they deserved ! The problems presented are not rocket science and while i myself do not know the answer I'm sure I could find it out if i wanted to but in this case i have better things to do.

The idea of the resistor code catchpa was mostly in jest I beleive but in any case anyone with a vague interest should know the code or have enough gumption to go and find it out, it's not that hard a concept and the last question that I'll be answering is how to work out a basic 5% resistor code!

[Bored@Work]

Sadly this thread has gone in 2 negative directions , and I may have helped , assuming from the contest of the OP , they were just trying to find an easy way out ?

The op is just looking for a bitch doing his homework. If you want to volunteer to be his bitch, just go ahead. Note, that you will deprive him of an opportunity to learn.  And if he pays for his education you will also be responsible for him not getting his money worse.

where as the better road to take may have been to try to show / teach how to find the answer

Go ahead, be his bitch, nurse your helper complex if it makes you feel better.

the OP just does not come back it would appear

Good, life is to short to endlessly deal with demanding, cheating (hint: he has already violated the academic rules of any serious school out there), incompetent, lazy  schoolboys.

except without the attempt at teaching

Go ahead, be his bitch, waste your time.

we do not know the outcome of that option ;(

I can tell you the outcome of that option. You would have taught him that academic dishonesty and brazenness pays off.

Now the normal reaction is to get defensive and take issue with the above - rather than get above all that and try to make things better .

You go first. Create your own homework help site and spend 24/7 dealing with those people. You claim you know how it should be done, so do it.

[krish2487]

Houston, we have a problem !
With such students, we never return to the moon 

We'd never return back from the moon!

 


On the other hand the thread's name is just begging us for a more appropriate course of action

Re: GUYS HELP!!! WE NEED FOR OUR REMOVAL!!! T.T

[babysitter]

There is some very good news in such posts - those people will never be competition 
Unfortunately, paying for our retirement is the other side of the coin. 

[Simon]

There is some very good news in such posts - those people will never be competition 

Really ? you should work where I work

[KD0CAC John]

Wow , you couldn't hardly have gotten more negative than that .
Nothing in my reply suggested giving the answers .

My main point was to get above both the cheating and the bitch about cheating , both drag things down .
A discussion of solving the questions would be more interesting .

Sadly this thread has gone in 2 negative directions , and I may have helped , assuming from the contest of the OP , they were just trying to find an easy way out ?

The op is just looking for a bitch doing his homework. If you want to volunteer to be his bitch, just go ahead. Note, that you will deprive him of an opportunity to learn.  And if he pays for his education you will also be responsible for him not getting his money worse.

where as the better road to take may have been to try to show / teach how to find the answer

Go ahead, be his bitch, nurse your helper complex if it makes you feel better.

the OP just does not come back it would appear

Good, life is to short to endlessly deal with demanding, cheating (hint: he has already violated the academic rules of any serious school out there), incompetent, lazy  schoolboys.

except without the attempt at teaching

Go ahead, be his bitch, waste your time.

we do not know the outcome of that option ;(

I can tell you the outcome of that option. You would have taught him that academic dishonesty and brazenness pays off.

Now the normal reaction is to get defensive and take issue with the above - rather than get above all that and try to make things better .

You go first. Create your own homework help site and spend 24/7 dealing with those people. You claim you know how it should be done, so do it.

[Simon]

put simply these people don't deserve anyone's time, they would be the sort to ask for help one day and stab you in the back the next if it helps them get on. If they really want to get on they will and asking for help to learn rather than just to have their homework solved goes a long long way.

[TheRuler8510]

Maybe I'm stupid, but what does "SF" mean in "SF amplifier" in the first post?

[nanofrog]

the mnemonic I learned wasn't in bad taste- bad beer rots our young guts but vodka goes well

Never heard/seen this version before. 

[KD0CAC John]

That's kinda my point or points , there are just some plain bad apples out there , the nature of reality .
But also it would be more interesting to discuss the questions , after a " little discussion " about the bad direction of teaching / learning today .
Not a lot of value in following a bad idea into the rabbit hole

put simply these people don't deserve anyone's time, they would be the sort to ask for help one day and stab you in the back the next if it helps them get on. If they really want to get on they will and asking for help to learn rather than just to have their homework solved goes a long long way.

[Simon]

Well the topic has just become a venting ground for peoples frustration. If the OP really wants the help in a contructive way they are welcome to start a new topic asking about the fundamentals they obviously do not understand in order to solve their homework. Then people may be more interested in helping. "If you give a man fish you feed him for a day, give him a rod and teach him how to use it and he'll feed himself for life"

[linux-works]

"build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day.

set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

[Simon]

"build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day.

set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

 

[gxti]

put simply these people don't deserve anyone's time

Which is why I'm really puzzled why people are still talking about this. He's obviously not coming back.

[Simon]

Like i said the topic has become a venting ground for peoples frustration with such people or a place to come and poke some fun 

[Simon]

yea now you know where all those dodgy inverters on ebay come from

[ampdoctor]

The op came across sounding like violet from the old willy wonka movie...GIVE IT TO ME, I WANT IT NOW!!!!!  Kid was behind the eight ball with that attitude right from the start.

Second thing is that those problems are easy, and I mean really easy! The first one can get a little quirky for beginners but the second one is a basic building block NPN. That should be as easy as falling off a log. There's probably a dozen examples right in his textbook if he's willing to invest even 15 minutes of his precious time. If he can't figure these questions out on his own he's screwed!

The semesters are winding to an end so gird up and expect to see a lot more posts like this popping up for a while. Kids who blew off all their work for 3 months and now want somebody to wave a magic fairy wand and fix everything for them.

Houston, we have a problem !
With such students, we never return to the moon

We never went to the moon! The whole thing was fabricated by stanley kubrick and the gubermint. 

[Rory]

No kidding Ampdoctor. Those problems took all of 5 minutes to crunch the numbers. 

The trick is knowing HOW.

[Rudane]

I won't answer the questions for you, but I will suggest a path to the answer. For the second one, remove the caps for the DC analysis (because caps block DC) and perform the thevenin equivalent on the amplifier.