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Offline isihacTopic starter

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Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« on: August 16, 2015, 10:52:11 am »
First post.

My Linksys wrt610v1 router has failed on me. On opening it up I can see that a crystal with the following markings "NSK 8D 25.000 ALG" looks like (see attachment) it has leaked something.

I don't know enough to know whether this is a symptom or cause of the failure. All I can try is replacing the part. The crystal is 3.5Hx10Lx3.6W, thru pin 4.7mm apart.

Can you help me identifying a suitable replacement part (I live in the UK) and how I might do it myself in the future. I have of course tried Google etc but I've only got close.

Any other suggestions welcomed.

Isihac
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2015, 10:59:40 am »
Crystals never leak anything. That goo has dripped from another component.
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2015, 11:01:26 am »
You can replace it with almost any 25 MHz crystal. But I can guarantee you, that is not going to be the broken part. Crystals are hermetically sealed, so nothing gets in or out of them. Look for broken capacitors or firmware that is way more likely to fail.
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2015, 11:11:18 am »
I see 26.000 on the picture, not 25.000, but crystal haven't leaked anything. Actually there is nothing to leak in it. These are just flux residues because there is a solder blob on the left side. And 100% the fault is not because of the crystal.
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2015, 11:11:38 am »
Hmm, get a linksys WRT54GL instead. Then you can add an SD card, extra ports, linux distro, use it to control a robot, lots of hacks. You can reflash the wrt610v1 as well though. Do fancy stuff with it.
« Last Edit: August 16, 2015, 11:15:24 am by TheElectricChicken »
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2015, 11:17:25 am »
Thanks all.

Something to play with now.
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2015, 11:19:22 am »
Check if capacitors are not of some crap brand. I've seen linksys routers with crap Su'scon capacitors inside, almost all of them were dead.
Hmm, get a linksys WRT54GL instead. Then you can add an SD card, extra ports, linux distro, use it to control a robot, lots of hacks.
Yeah, really "nice" idea get that prehistoric junk.
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2015, 11:21:27 am »
Check if capacitors are not of some crap brand. I've seen linksys routers with crap Su'scon capacitors inside, almost all of them were dead.
Hmm, get a linksys WRT54GL instead. Then you can add an SD card, extra ports, linux distro, use it to control a robot, lots of hacks.
Yeah, really "nice" idea get that prehistoric junk.

yes, it is beloved by hackers everywhere, and btw, who do you think this board and blog is set up for exactly ?  ;D

« Last Edit: August 16, 2015, 02:37:01 pm by Simon »
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2015, 11:28:48 am »
yes, it is beloved by hackers everywhere, and btw, who do you think this board and blog is set up for exactly ?  ;D
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Yeah, as if this prehistoric router which isn't even of 802.11n standard is the only router which can be hacked. They are so old that are dying because of the crap capacitors used in them. I can flash DD-WRT on my 5 months old router supporting 802.11AC too BTW.
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2015, 11:45:33 am »
yes, it is beloved by hackers everywhere, and btw, who do you think this board and blog is set up for exactly ?  ;D
10 years ago. And it wasn't well suited anyway (Broadcom chipset). Hackers use better ones.
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2015, 11:48:07 am »
Yeah, as if this prehistoric router which isn't even of 802.11n standard is the only router which can be hacked. They are so old that are dying because of the crap capacitors used in them.

Oh no, you're right, I better throw it out, where is it, oh here it is, now, where shall I throw it ? I know, how about the dumpster !!! I know a good dumpster !

http://www.eevblog.com/2013/06/26/eevblog-488-dumpster-dive-parts-salvage/

Maybe it's so old that it is filled with cockroaches, we can only hope.

I've gotten lots of good parts out of dumpster diving.  And, once, cockroaches.  From there, I learned to be careful.

What? You wasted perfectly good cockroaches?

« Last Edit: August 16, 2015, 02:37:36 pm by Simon »
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2015, 11:53:16 am »
 :palm: :palm: |O |O

Do you actual need to spam every thread in here with stupid comments and/or pictures?
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2015, 11:56:22 am »
:palm: :palm: |O |O

Do you actual need to spam every thread in here with stupid comments and/or pictures?

I'm contractually obliged to, what about you ?
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2015, 12:27:11 pm »
:palm: :palm: |O |O

Do you actual need to spam every thread in here with stupid comments and/or pictures?

I'm contractually obliged to, what about you ?
yeah, 58 posts per day. Looks like a job.
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2015, 12:31:51 pm »
yeah, 58 posts per day. Looks like a job.

Are you jealous I get paid to do it while you just do it for free ?  ^-^ Don't be. We have terrible conditions here in Nigeria, we get our feathers clipped so that we can't fly out of the factory and we have to use windows 10 all day long and for just no reason at all they play bieber through the public announcement system sometimes.
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2015, 12:50:54 pm »
Are you jealous I get paid to do it while you just do it for free ?  ^-^ Don't be. We have terrible conditions here in Nigeria, we get our feathers clipped so that we can't fly out of the factory and we have to use windows 10 all day long and for just no reason at all they play bieber through the public announcement system sometimes.
No, I'm not jealous at all. I'm pissed because you are contaminating this forum with useless junk.
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2015, 01:05:34 pm »
No, I'm not jealous at all. I'm pissed because you are contaminating this forum with useless junk.

I agree.

Get a hobby or have some sex - It might help you :o ???
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2015, 01:44:35 pm »
Check the output voltage from the power supply, it's the most likely problem.
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2015, 02:12:38 pm »
No, I'm not jealous at all. I'm pissed because you are contaminating this forum with useless junk.

I thought that is exactly what you wanted. You kicked it off with this :

Check if capacitors are not of some crap brand. I've seen linksys routers with crap Su'scon capacitors inside, almost all of them were dead.
Hmm, get a linksys WRT54GL instead. Then you can add an SD card, extra ports, linux distro, use it to control a robot, lots of hacks.
Yeah, really "nice" idea get that prehistoric junk.

If you don't like it this way, then why start it in the first place ? make up yer mind !
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2015, 02:31:11 pm »
Check if capacitors are not of some crap brand. I've seen linksys routers with crap Su'scon capacitors inside, almost all of them were dead.
Hmm, get a linksys WRT54GL instead. Then you can add an SD card, extra ports, linux distro, use it to control a robot, lots of hacks.
Yeah, really "nice" idea get that prehistoric junk.

If you don't like it this way, then why start it in the first place ? make up yer mind !
Why to make useless posts in the first place? Op asked how to fix the router, not how to buy another junk which is older than his own. That comment was already based on the fact that you make such useless posts over many treads. Like yeah, another piece of garbage.
 

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Re: Identifying a Crystal on a broken router
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2015, 02:36:25 pm »
Do I have to lock this thread ? I think this has gone on enough.

That actually looks like a blob of solder.
 


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