Just came across this new concept: IIoT

[JoeN]

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What the heck differentiates IoT and IIoT other than possibly wider temperature and voltage ratings for the industrial products?  I don't buy that there will be any difference in security, whatever works (if anything) will end up in both the industrial and commercial products.  Industrial rated ICs don't get their own category of IICs just because there is a different chip grade for the industrial version.  IIoT feels to me like it is something made up by an ultra-douchebag in the marking department that really needs to end up in something like the dungeon at the end of Pulp Fiction for an attitude adjustment.  No self-respecting engineer would have come up with that, right?  What gives?

[miguelvp]

-40C to 0C operating temperature over your standard IoT that works from 0C up.

[ataradov]

That's a whole bunch of marketing people come up with all sort of meaningless names while wondering where their life went wrong so they ended up in marketing.

[T3sl4co1l]

Security, one would perhaps hope; but ignorance of security is pervasive, so it's not going to be any better than consumer products.

Tim

[helius]

"IoT" is entirely a marketing buzzword and useless money pit for gullible investors. There is no reason to use it in industrial settings at all: that's what SCADA is for.

[ade]

IOT (and IIOT) is very different from SCADA.  Although IOT and SCADA may overlap, the two are not interchangeable, but complementary.

SCADA is primarily about control, especially for operational systems in real-time == things engineers care about.

IOT is primarily about business intelligence (BI), including long term data aggregation and analysis == things business managers care about.

A good example is for consumables.  E.g., a package delivery company has 20,000 delivery trucks and spend millions in tire replacements (buying tires, stocking them at warehouses, distributing them to repair facilities, installing them, disposing them, etc.)  They want to capture truck and tire parameters, aggregate the data over long periods of time, overlay supply chain (SCM), geographic (GIS) and even financial data to perform trend analytics, use machine learning to devise optimal improvements, etc.

SCADA would be ill suited for these types of tasks.  Tires are consumables and trucks are mobile.  At best SCADA may be leveraged as an expensive way to capture parameters.  But what about the data aggregation? Business analytics?  Decision support? 

Consumer IOT won't cut it either... it's not just about operating conditions / temperature range, but about the industrial infrastructure and systems required to support IIOT.  (E.g., "big data" / Hadoop, machine learning farms, BI/visualization tools, etc.)

[Morgoroth]

IOT (and IIOT) is very different from SCADA.  Although IOT and SCADA may overlap, the two are not interchangeable, but complementary.

SCADA is primarily about control, especially for operational systems in real-time == things engineers care about.

IOT is primarily about business intelligence (BI), including long term data aggregation and analysis == things business managers care about.

A good example is for consumables.  E.g., a package delivery company has 20,000 delivery trucks and spend millions in tire replacements (buying tires, stocking them at warehouses, distributing them to repair facilities, installing them, disposing them, etc.)  They want to capture truck and tire parameters, aggregate the data over long periods of time, overlay supply chain (SCM), geographic (GIS) and even financial data to perform trend analytics, use machine learning to devise optimal improvements, etc.

SCADA would be ill suited for these types of tasks.  Tires are consumables and trucks are mobile.  At best SCADA may be leveraged as an expensive way to capture parameters.  But what about the data aggregation? Business analytics?  Decision support? 

Consumer IOT won't cut it either... it's not just about operating conditions / temperature range, but about the industrial infrastructure and systems required to support IIOT.  (E.g., "big data" / Hadoop, machine learning farms, BI/visualization tools, etc.)

as big picture, same principles are applied on both concepts, getting data, transmit that data in real time, store it (optional) and analyze it.

now I'm waiting osisoft to release an IoT version of PI System  (not such a bad idea anyway)