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Offline AgonyTopic starter

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NPN transistor base resistor voltage spikes?
« on: April 25, 2013, 12:44:49 am »
Run the simulation and noticedthe unusual voltage spike inbetween theresistor and base.
Would it be a bleedthrough from the 12V on collector?
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Re: NPN transistor base resistor voltage spikes?
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2013, 02:52:21 am »
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Re: NPN transistor base resistor voltage spikes?
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2013, 01:36:00 pm »
weird... this should do then:

« Last Edit: April 26, 2013, 12:44:59 am by Agony »
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Re: NPN transistor base resistor voltage spikes?
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2013, 12:45:14 am »
Could it be a simulation error or a kind of inductive voltage spike?
Alltho its within limits and wouldnt  damage the transistor, and the extra current it would let through wouldnt be a problem in current case - its still unwanted.

How would you go about smoothing it out?
Was thinking of a zener with a low breakdown voltage (in that case 0.9V) right inbetween the resistor and base with one end grounded.
So it would ground any spikes.

https://www.circuitlab.com/circuit/p3uvb3/npn-transistor-switch/

Tho that resulted in a waveform that has slightly less voltage at the beginning of each cycle and a spike in current at the end.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2013, 01:01:35 am by Agony »
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Re: NPN transistor base resistor voltage spikes?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2013, 01:14:33 am »
Hello Agony

I ran the simulation and do not see the spikes. I attached the image.
 

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Re: NPN transistor base resistor voltage spikes?
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2013, 02:27:29 pm »
yes, i currently added the D2 zener wit h around 0,9V of breakdown voltage so it grounds the spikes, if you remove/disconnect it, the spikes show up.
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Re: NPN transistor base resistor voltage spikes?
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2013, 02:51:44 pm »
This is most likely a defect in the model for the 2N2222 in the simulator.  Models aren't perfect, and some are less perfect than others, especially for modeling non-linear, large-signal behavior.
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