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Offline Gazmon

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Rigol dso 1054z 50hz vs Hantek dso5202p 200hz
« on: February 24, 2019, 05:28:28 am »
Hi all,

Nice to be here , just a quick question on these 2 oscilloscopes , I have seen the excellent review by eevblog on the 1054z but wondering as a beginner what would the advice be between choosing between these 2 units

Doing some Arduino and building electronic circuitry , raspberry pi etc

Respect one is 50hz and the other 200hz , which one would most go for

Any advice appreciated
Gazmon
 

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Re: Rigol dso 1054z 50hz vs Hantek dso5202p 200hz
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2019, 05:37:50 am »
Either scope will work for what you're intending to do but Rigol > Hantek even if you don't software mod the 1054Z for 100MHz operation. Hantek doesn't have a good track record with their hardware and firmware. They tends to be very quirky and weird.
 

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Re: Rigol dso 1054z 50hz vs Hantek dso5202p 200hz
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2019, 05:48:50 am »
Nominally, the Rigol is 50 MHz and can be unlocked easily to reach 100 MHz and just about everybody does this.  Details elsewhere.  After several iterations of firmware, this scope has no known bugs (at least that's what I have read) and I'm very happy with mine.

The DS1054Z is a great entry level scope for the money.  OTOH, Siglent has 3 new scopes in the range and the SDS 1104 and SDS 1204 are the new 100 MHz and 200 MHz 4 channel scopes.  The SDS 1104 can be unlocked to get to 200 MHz, details elsewhere.  The firmware won't be as mature because the scope is much newer but I haven't read too many complaints.

The SDS 1x04 is reported to have a much more responsive user interface; the Rigol is highly criticized for its unresponsive interface.  Personally, I spend more time looking at the screen than I twiddling the knobs so it isn't a factor for me.

We always get into the issue of bandwidth for square waves.  You probably need to see the 9th harmonic in order to do much with square waves so a 100 MHz scope can probably represent a 10 MHz square wave fairly well.  That's pretty much in line with most uC projects and even many FPGA projects.

For raw bandwidth, without DSO capabilities, consider one of the older analog scopes.  I have a 350 MHz Tektronix 485 that handles my bandwidth projects.  It's a great scope that gets very little usage now that I have the Rigol.  If you ever run out of bandwidth...


 

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Re: Rigol dso 1054z 50hz vs Hantek dso5202p 200hz
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2019, 06:08:25 am »
I have a Hantek DSO5102P that has been hacked to 200 MHz.  For the simple things I have done with it, it meets my needs as I bought it 2nd hand from a blog member a few years ago.  If I remember correctly, I paid half of what the Rigol is selling for.  I have had to replace electrolytic caps on the main board.  It was very easy to get the board out and repaired.  I also have 2 300 MHz analog scopes.
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Re: Rigol dso 1054z 50hz vs Hantek dso5202p 200hz
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2019, 06:38:35 am »
What about between the Rigol and the Siglent SDS 1000x-e super phosphor, both seem good but which is actually better please
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Re: Rigol dso 1054z 50hz vs Hantek dso5202p 200hz
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2019, 09:55:33 am »
difficult to say, but the 4channel sig' is a hell of a lot more expensive.
 

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Re: Rigol dso 1054z 50hz vs Hantek dso5202p 200hz
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2019, 11:59:07 am »
Not much more expensive, for the 100 MHz versions
DS1054Z       100 MHz 4 Channel $379 at Amazon - after unlocking for bandwidth, etc
SDS1104X-E  100 MHz 4 Channel $499 at Amazon
SDS1204X-E  200 MHz 4 Channel $759 at Amazon - but the 1104X-E can be unlocked to give 200 MHz

The 1104 might be worth the extra money if the GUI is a lot better.
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Re: Rigol dso 1054z 50hz vs Hantek dso5202p 200hz
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2019, 01:58:36 am »
since when is 30% "Not much more expensive" ??
 

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Re: Rigol dso 1054z 50hz vs Hantek dso5202p 200hz
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2019, 03:47:29 am »
since when is 30% "Not much more expensive" ??

I don't remember the exact number but the Rigol was about the same price as the 1104 when it first came out.  I remember paying somewhere close to $500.  And for the features, I got a heck of a deal!

The question is:  Given the price is 30% higher, is there something with the display and interface (notably the delay in the Rigol controls) or the potentially higher bandwidth worth the difference.  If there isn't, the DS1054Z is the way to go.  OTOH, if something with better controls and higher bandwidth is worth the upgraded price, maybe the 1104 is the way to go.  There are discussions over in the Test Equipment forum.

I will say this, I am seriously considering adding the 1104 (upgraded to 200 MHz) or the 1204 to my bench even though I already have the DS1054Z.

Side note:  The 1104 is priced above the 100 MHz (upgraded) DS1054Z but since the 1104 can itself be upgraded to 200 MHz, does that high price seem pretty insignificant?

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« Last Edit: February 25, 2019, 04:01:37 am by rstofer »
 


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