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Offline T4P

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2012, 09:29:56 am »
Put inside some sealed plastic container or a sealed jar if you want
Wrap it up in some CAUTION!!! WARNING!!! TOXIC SUBSTANCES or so if you want
Maybe use some of your high voltage stickers?  ;)
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2012, 10:59:06 am »
I would not have a problem storing the solder paste in the fridge in an air tight container. There are other real problems that people don't even consider. What about cans and bottles that have been stored in a warehouse, who washes them or sterilises them before storage ? Google Leptospirosis

 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2012, 11:13:03 am »
It's solder paste, not nuclear waste. It's not going to up and kill you by being in your fridge.
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2012, 12:34:10 pm »
It's solder paste, not nuclear waste. It's not going to up and kill you by being in your fridge.

Even if I accidentally drop some catchup in it? I don't know, maybe some mutant reaction? ;)
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2012, 01:08:46 pm »
Now i'm curious to see what solder paste tastes like.. damn you guys...
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2012, 03:38:44 pm »
It tastes bitter and not very nice.
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2012, 12:00:54 am »
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Now i'm curious to see what solder paste tastes like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retsina perhaps?
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2012, 01:07:18 pm »
It tastes bitter and not very nice.
Saffers :) :) :)
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2012, 09:56:59 pm »
Those worried about lead solder paste in a fridge might be terrified to learn that the coils in the freezer compartment are sometimes lead solder and you have that sitting 24/7 with air and moisture blowing over your food. You also have millions of homes with copper pipes and lead solder .


on the subject of taste:
Romans would make a sweetener  composed of wine boiled in a lead pot, the reaction makes lead acetate  , a very cheap but deadly sweetener, which might explain all the insanity in the roman empire.


 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2012, 10:41:12 pm »
I keep my solder paste in my fridge, haven't died yet as best I can tell.

That said, I'm a musician, so it's not like there's ever food in there anyway  ;D
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2012, 10:30:15 am »
Those worried about lead solder paste in a fridge might be terrified to learn that the coils in the freezer compartment are sometimes lead solder and you have that sitting 24/7 with air and moisture blowing over your food. You also have millions of homes with copper pipes and lead solder .
Lead solder was banned for water long before electronics.

My fridge doesn't blow any air over the food. Any nasty lead solder used is isolated from the food. The pipes in the freezer compartment are covered in paint and the pipes round the back don't touch the food.
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2012, 01:46:53 pm »
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Lead solder was banned for water long before electronics.


Doesn't change the fact that there are millions of people living in those homes drinking the water and doing fine.  Fears of lead are more paranoia than substance.

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My fridge doesn't blow any air over the food. Any nasty lead solder used is isolated from the food. The pipes in the freezer compartment are covered in paint and the pipes round the back don't touch the food.

You have a fanless fridge ? must be a small one. Coils in the freezer sections of most refrigerators are not painted , they are aluminum soldered to copper and the fan pulls air across the coils to cool the air in the non-freezer section. Whether it is lead or an alloy solder depends on the manufacturer. External copper coils are brazed not soldered.

Another career that involves lots of lead is stained glass work,  the artists are not suffering from lead poisoning and they handle it all day long in large quantities.

The main thing to remember about lead is don't eat it and don't convert it to a powder and inhale. There are a lot more dangerous things in electronics than lead. Flux fumes being 1000X worse.

 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2012, 07:39:12 pm »
You have a fanless fridge ? must be a small one.
Yes. I don't think i've ever seen a fridge with a fan in except in supermarkets.


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Coils in the freezer sections of most refrigerators are not painted , they are aluminum soldered to copper and the fan pulls air across the coils to cool the air in the non-freezer section. Whether it is lead or an alloy solder depends on the manufacturer. External copper coils are brazed not soldered.
The ice box then the fridge that has one has the pipes painted and convection is used to move the air around.
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2012, 09:33:35 pm »
Yes. I don't think i've ever seen a fridge with a fan in except in supermarkets.

That is surprising.  In the USA just about every fridge sold has a fan to move the air around.
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2012, 09:34:21 pm »
Yes. I don't think i've ever seen a fridge with a fan in except in supermarkets.

That is surprising.  In the USA just about every fridge sold has a fan to move the air around.

And as with everything else, the USA is not the world. :)
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2012, 09:37:29 pm »

And as with everything else, the USA is not the world. :)

I'm well aware of that , I just can't imagine a fanless fridge design as being energy efficient.  Some air would move based on temperature differences but not nearly as much as with a fan, fanless would require the freezer section to be much colder to cool the refrigerator section completely.

 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2012, 09:40:10 pm »

And as with everything else, the USA is not the world. :)

I'm well aware of that , I just can't imagine a fanless fridge design as being energy efficient.  Some air would move based on temperature differences but not nearly as much as with a fan, fanless would require the freezer section to be much colder to cool the refrigerator section completely.

Not one of the fridgefreezers I've owned uses the freezer coils to cool the fridge. There is no air circulation between the two, they are sealed and separate.
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2012, 09:46:10 pm »

Not one of the fridgefreezers I've owned uses the freezer coils to cool the fridge. There is no air circulation between the two, they are sealed and separate.

I have never seen ones like that for sale except for small or dorm room sizes, except 30 years ago when they were not frost free.  Are these full family sized units and who makes them ? Curious if it is a USA thing or are the fridges sold just smaller.
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2012, 09:48:25 pm »

Not one of the fridgefreezers I've owned uses the freezer coils to cool the fridge. There is no air circulation between the two, they are sealed and separate.

I have never seen ones like that for sale except for small or dorm room sizes, except 30 years ago when they were not frost free.  Are these full family sized units and who makes them ? Curious if it is a USA thing or are the fridges sold just smaller.

What do you call full size? 'American style' double width units?

Most of the rest of the world suffices with the likes of this:


They're frost free unless you turn them up until they're not.
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2012, 09:58:41 pm »

What do you call full size? 'American style' double width units?

Most of the rest of the world suffices with the likes of this:


They're frost free unless you turn them up until they're not.

That is full size or what I was talking about.  I guess they are relying on convection to move the air from the colder section in the bottom to the top, but I can't see how that is ideal as the cold air will naturally want to remain in the bottom. Two sets of coils with independent coiling would seem cost prohibitive, but I guess it is doable.

Something I never thought much about is refrigerators around the world, but it seems there is quite a bit of differences. Even the sizes being sold on that UK site are not anything like what is sold here. The UK ones seem to be much more narrow than the USA ones.
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2012, 10:02:04 pm »
That is full size or what I was talking about.  I guess they are relying on convection to move the air from the colder section in the bottom to the top, but I can't see how that is ideal as the cold air will naturally want to remain in the bottom.

No, they're not. There is no air transfer between compartments. The only opening once the door is closed is the condensate drain.

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Something I never thought much about is refrigerators around the world, but it seems there is quite a bit of differences. Even the sizes being sold on that UK site are not anything like what is sold here. The UK ones seem to be much more narrow than the USA ones.

They're pretty standardised at 600mm wide. Under-counter fridges are 550mm, to allow for trim panels and wiggling the cursed thing in.
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2012, 10:10:40 pm »


They're pretty standardised at 600mm wide. Under-counter fridges are 550mm, to allow for trim panels and wiggling the cursed thing in.

Comparing the differences it seems like the UK ones are taller and thinner than the USA models. The common fridge size here is 711mm wide or 762mm with the door open.


 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2012, 10:12:13 pm »


They're pretty standardised at 600mm wide. Under-counter fridges are 550mm, to allow for trim panels and wiggling the cursed thing in.

Comparing the differences it seems like the UK ones are taller and thinner than the USA models. The common fridge size here is 711mm wide or 762mm with the door open.

You need the width to fit your 24" pizzas in. ;)
 

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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #48 on: November 13, 2012, 11:09:40 pm »
That is full size or what I was talking about.  I guess they are relying on convection to move the air from the colder section in the bottom to the top, but I can't see how that is ideal as the cold air will naturally want to remain in the bottom. Two sets of coils with independent coiling would seem cost prohibitive, but I guess it is doable.
That's solved by cooling from the top. There's often a small freezing compartment (known as an ice box) which is cooled by the evaporator pipes. If the fridge doesn't have an ice box, the evaporator pipe is mounted on a panel at the top of the fridge. This system saves power because no extra energy is required to power a fan to move the air.

You need the width to fit your 24" pizzas in. ;)
Unlike the USA, there aren't many people  in the UK who are capable of eating a 24" pizza.  ;D
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Re: Store leaded solder paste in food fridge
« Reply #49 on: November 13, 2012, 11:12:32 pm »
You need the width to fit your 24" pizzas in. ;)
Unlike the USA, there aren't many people  in the UK who are capable of eating a 24" pizza.  ;D

I am, however, one of them. ;)
 


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