The Aneng AN8009 arrived.

[Russ]

  What do you all think of it, as a cheap  meter? I do not want to be hauling the Eevblog/Brymen 235 around.

Thanks
Russ

[soubitos]

I got ANENG AN8008 and am quite happy with it.. i had to replace the fuses with SMD ones at some point but besides the obvious and expected issues of such a cheap product, it does the job, and serves well....

[Russ]

I got ANENG AN8008 and am quite happy with it.. i had to replace the fuses with SMD ones at some point but besides the obvious and expected issues of such a cheap product, it does the job, and serves well....

   SMD = ?

[jeroen79]

I got ANENG AN8008 and am quite happy with it.. i had to replace the fuses with SMD ones at some point but besides the obvious and expected issues of such a cheap product, it does the job, and serves well....

   SMD = ?

Surface mounted device?

[Russ]

I got ANENG AN8008 and am quite happy with it.. i had to replace the fuses with SMD ones at some point but besides the obvious and expected issues of such a cheap product, it does the job, and serves well....

   SMD = ?

Surface mounted device?

     They sure are tiny in size?

Russ

[soubitos]

They sure are

[Electro Detective]

I got ANENG AN8008 and am quite happy with it.. i had to replace the fuses with SMD ones at some point but besides the obvious and expected issues of such a cheap product, it does the job, and serves well....

Great idea     assuming the SMD fuses can suppress the BANG! properly

and not become a flashover fast bridge to multimeter hell 

Still, there's lots of room left in there for spares, and toothpicks to pry them out   


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  What do you all think of it, as a cheap  meter? I do not want to be hauling the Eevblog/Brymen 235 around.

Thanks
Russ

I'd feel more secure and confident lugging the heavier 235 around and get a free pump, 
you never know where DIY probing can take you sometimes 

 

[ez24]

Thanks for this post - I had no idea my meter had SMD fuses (I did not know they even existed).  Now to order some   

[ez24]

Now I am confused

https://www.markhennessy.co.uk/budget_multimeters/aneng_an8008.htm

Shows 10mm fuses

Could it  be the posted picture with the name 8008 is really a 8009 ?

I guess I have to open my "8" and order a "9" and some SMD fuses just for the hell of it 

What is the real scoop?  I have a handicap - I have "fuseritis"  this is a disorder where I blow too many fuses

thanks

[Russ]

Now I am confused

https://www.markhennessy.co.uk/budget_multimeters/aneng_an8008.htm

Shows 10mm fuses

Could it  be the posted picture with the name 8008 is really a 8009 ?

I guess I have to open my "8" and order a "9" and some SMD fuses just for the hell of it 

What is the real scoop?  I have a handicap - I have "fuseritis"  this is a disorder where I blow too many fuses

thanks

They are the tiniest fuses that I’ve ever seen (Aneng 8009)

Russ

[rsjsouza]

Thanks for this post - I had no idea my meter had SMD fuses (I did not know they even existed).  Now to order some   

SMD fuses are common in the boards I use for work - they are certainly tiny but quite useful.

One interesting tidbit: Littelfuse rates them up to 250V_AC with an interrupt rating of 100A. However, if you use your meter up to 86V_DC, it shows a rating of up to 10kA - same rating when compared to the multi-dollar Bussman fuses used by Fluke!

http://www.littelfuse.com/~/media/electronics/datasheets/fuses/littelfuse_fuse_476_datasheet.pdf.pdf

[Mark Hennessy]

Now I am confused

soubitos modified his meter. They come with 10mm fuses from the factory.

[Russ]

3.5 x 10mm in size. Cylindrical in shape.

[ez24]

Now I am confused

soubitos modified his meter. They come with 10mm fuses from the factory.

Thanks I was getting confused which is easy.

I opened my 8008 and found the 3.6 x 10mm 10a fuse in a fuse holder.  So I looked to buy some and the only reasonable ones come with leads.  I ordered 100 for $7  and will cut the leads off.  Other wise they are over a buck each.  Regardless I am glad for this post to remind me to get extra fuses.  I do low voltage stuff so I feel that I do not need ceramic fuses (the one dollar ones).

Reading around forums, it seems I am not the only one to get confused.   

[soubitos]

Now I am confused

soubitos modified his meter. They come with 10mm fuses from the factory.

Thanks I was getting confused which is easy.

I opened my 8008 and found the 3.6 x 10mm 10a fuse in a fuse holder.  So I looked to buy some and the only reasonable ones come with leads.  I ordered 100 for $7  and will cut the leads off.  Other wise they are over a buck each.  Regardless I am glad for this post to remind me to get extra fuses.  I do low voltage stuff so I feel that I do not need ceramic fuses (the one dollar ones).

Reading around forums, it seems I am not the only one to get confused.   

Oh, i am sorry, i didnt think noting i did change the stock fuses with SMD ones... i did so because i needed to replace the 250mA fuse with.. something... and i did have the SMD fuses lying around.... when i noticed the SMD fuse HOLDERS would fit perfectly in the position of the stock fuse holders it was a very easy decision.

I am very happy with the ANENG meter... i didnt like to order the same fuses it came with first because as said above, you can only find those with leads and second because you really dont know what those are good for right? While on the other hand, littlefuse parts are well known and good quality so why not? They come at a cost but they are not expensive either ....

[ez24]

.... when i noticed the SMD fuse HOLDERS would fit perfectly in the position of the stock fuse holders it was a very easy decision.

Thanks I am going to look into SMD fuses.   

[Russ]

I am still a bit unclear as to what SMD fuses are? I think that the OEM fuses are dirt cheap from Platt’s.

Russ

[IanB]

I am still a bit unclear as to what SMD fuses are?

There is a picture in Reply #5:

[Alex Eisenhut]

I hope it has a better rotary selector switch than the landfill-grade one they used on the AN8008. 

[amspire]

I did a post about getting the genuine fuses along with some alternatives. Read this post:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/multimeter-aneng-an8002-failed-on-testing-continuity-please-help/msg1399341/#msg1399341

and this follow-up post:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/multimeter-aneng-an8002-failed-on-testing-continuity-please-help/msg1399446/#msg1399446

[Russ]

I am still a bit unclear as to what SMD fuses are?

There is a picture in Reply #5:

Mine in the Aneng 8009 are small and cylindrical in size.

Russ

[IanB]

Mine in the Aneng 8009 are small and cylindrical in size.

Yes, we know that. But the person who posted that picture replaced the original cylindrical fuse holders with SMD fuse holders and fuses.

You asked what SMD fuses are. The picture above shows an SMD fuse in an SMD fuse holder. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. So why are you asking for so many words to explain what is so clearly shown in the picture? 

[Russ]

Mine in the Aneng 8009 are small and cylindrical in size.

Yes, we know that. But the person who posted that picture replaced the original cylindrical fuse holders with SMD fuse holders and fuses.

You asked what SMD fuses are. The picture above shows an SMD fuse in an SMD fuse holder. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. So why are you asking for so many words to explain what is so clearly shown in the picture? 

What is the purpose of replacing originals with SMD’s?

Thanks

[IanB]

What is the purpose of replacing originals with SMD’s?

See Reply #14 

[ez24]

Is the SMD fuse  1808 ?

I like this idea

[Electro Detective]

What is the purpose of replacing originals with SMD’s?
Thanks

Most likely easier to source than the non mainstream "Honey, I shrunk the fuses"    in that meter
and maybe cheaper by the dozen   

Not sure how difficult it is to get the SMD fuseholders that member soubitos used, but you only have to buy them once 
and a spare set for disasters  

[Russ]

Interesting. I’m going to stop in at Platt Electric Supply tomorrow. I’ll post my findings.

[floobydust]

Littelfuse 01550900M Series - SMT Fuse Block For Nano2 Fuses.
154 Series includes a fuse too USD$2.55 ea.

USD $2.16 each, and 476 10A fuse USD$2.36, 476 1A fuse USD$1.36
total=$8.04

If I blew both fuses, I'd probably toss the meter out 

[amspire]

I don't see the point in going to the SMD fuses. The genuine Aneng-type fuses cost A$0.39 from Richmeter as long as you have bought a multimeter from them. If you really don't want a second multimeter, get the 10 for $1.50 fuses with leads that will be better then nothing. I have 20 replacement fuses for the multimeter that cost me $3 in total.

[soubitos]

Littelfuse 01550900M Series - SMT Fuse Block For Nano2 Fuses.
154 Series includes a fuse too USD$2.55 ea.

USD $2.16 each, and 476 10A fuse USD$2.36, 476 1A fuse USD$1.36
total=$8.04

If I blew both fuses, I'd probably toss the meter out 

I got 20x250mA & 20x10A fuses for something close to 5$.....
SMD fuse holders went another couple dollars tops...
So, i can blose both fuses 20 times before i toss the meter!

I don't see the point in going to the SMD fuses. The genuine Aneng-type fuses cost A$0.39 from Richmeter as long as you have bought a multimeter from them. If you really don't want a second multimeter, get the 10 for $1.50 fuses with leads that will be better then nothing. I have 20 replacement fuses for the multimeter that cost me $3 in total.

I am 100% sure the fuses with leads are not same quality as the SMD fuses are. I dont have any, and i had a very hard time finding at least one to replace the blown 250mA fuse in my ANENG meter. Richmeter has nothing to do with my ANENG so the $0.39 per fuse from them does not apply to me anyway.
Then i had 1. smd fuse holders and they happened to fit perfectly 2. i had several fuses lying around (from motherboards and routers mostly i think) and i ordered 20+20 for something over 5$ which i am sure it is a very good price for any kind of fuse to go in a multimeter...

[amspire]

I am 100% sure the fuses with leads are not same quality as the SMD fuses are. I dont have any, and i had a very hard time finding at least one to replace the blown 250mA fuse in my ANENG meter. Richmeter has nothing to do with my ANENG so the $0.39 per fuse from them does not apply to me anyway.
Then i had 1. smd fuse holders and they happened to fit perfectly 2. i had several fuses lying around (from motherboards and routers mostly i think) and i ordered 20+20 for something over 5$ which i am sure it is a very good price for any kind of fuse to go in a multimeter...

Both Aneng and Richmeter are just selling rebranded ZOTEK multimeters. Aneng probably make no multimeters at all. Except for the printing on the front, a ZOTEK ZT101 is a Richmeter RM101 which is a Aneng AN8001. The new Aneng AN8009 is the Richmeter RM111, and the ZOTEK ZT111 and the ZOYI ZT111 and the URXTRAL  ZT111.

Definitely, a geniune Richmeter fuse is a genuine Aneng fuse.

About the quality, I do not see it as a big worry. I have been using multimeters for many decades and I am yet to destroy any multimeter by putting a current range across the mains. If I make a mistake and my $20 multimeter does not survive, I will buy another one. The fuse just gives some extra protection. Instead of the 600mA fuse, I just got 1A. It may be too high to protect the multimeter, but it will hopefully break the circuit before the meter bursts into flames.

[amspire]

This is my new favourite name for a rebranded ZOTEK/Aneng multimeter:

The DKM HAHAHA ZT100 - an Aneng AN8000 meter

[Russ]

My newest meter.

[WaveyDipole]

Some technical details and photos here:

http://lygte-info.dk/review/DMMAnengAN8009%20UK.html

Looks like it is 'missing some of the mA ranges' which I believe was the compromise made on the 8008 in order to get a µA range in. The square wave output has been replaced with a Non Contact Voltage (NCV) detector.

[amspire]

Looks like it is 'missing some of the mA ranges' which I believe was the compromise made on the 8008 in order to get a µA range in. The square wave output has been replaced with a Non Contact Voltage (NCV) detector.

That is why I have picked 2 of this family of meters. I got the AN8001 on sale for abut US$12 and the AN8008 on sale for about US$15 (hasn't arrived yet). The AN8001 is the one I would actually use most with its more conventional current ranges. Most of the time, a 6200 count meter is plenty and I don't usually need 1uV resolution. I am often measuring supply currents in the mA region.

The AN8009 is a better meter then the AN8008 and the combination of AN8002 + AN8009 is better then my combo but at a significantly higher price - at least based on the prices I have seen.

[GreyWoolfe]

Looks like it is 'missing some of the mA ranges' which I believe was the compromise made on the 8008 in order to get a µA range in. The square wave output has been replaced with a Non Contact Voltage (NCV) detector.

That is why I have picked 2 of this family of meters. I got the AN8001 on sale for abut US$12 and the AN8008 on sale for about US$15 (hasn't arrived yet). The AN8001 is the one I would actually use most with its more conventional current ranges. Most of the time, a 6200 count meter is plenty and I don't usually need 1uV resolution. I am often measuring supply currents in the mA region.

The AN8009 is a better meter then the AN8008 and the combination of AN8002 + AN8009 is better then my combo but at a significantly higher price - at least based on the prices I have seen.

How much higher would it have been?  I paid $18.88 USD for my AN8008 a few month ago and, I think, $19.99 USD for the AN8009 on Black Friday.  That is about $12 USD more, but I on't think it actually breaks the bank.

[Russ]

I paid about $24.00 for the Aneng 8009 through Banggood.

[amspire]

Looks like it is 'missing some of the mA ranges' which I believe was the compromise made on the 8008 in order to get a µA range in. The square wave output has been replaced with a Non Contact Voltage (NCV) detector.

That is why I have picked 2 of this family of meters. I got the AN8001 on sale for abut US$12 and the AN8008 on sale for about US$15 (hasn't arrived yet). The AN8001 is the one I would actually use most with its more conventional current ranges. Most of the time, a 6200 count meter is plenty and I don't usually need 1uV resolution. I am often measuring supply currents in the mA region.

The AN8009 is a better meter then the AN8008 and the combination of AN8002 + AN8009 is better then my combo but at a significantly higher price - at least based on the prices I have seen.

How much higher would it have been?  I paid $18.88 USD for my AN8008 a few month ago and, I think, $19.99 USD for the AN8009 on Black Friday.  That is about $12 USD more, but I on't think it actually breaks the bank.

You got a very good deal. The standard price of an AN8009 to Australia is around the A$30 to A$34 mark. That is around the same price I paid for the AN8001 + AN8008. This was before Black Friday and at the time, there were no good AN8009 deals.

Right now, the AN8008 is about the same price as the AN8009 so I would definitely buy the AN8009 - if I needed another meter. I don't see the point of the silly square wave generator in a multimeter, and the NCV addition in the AN8009 is definitely useful.