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Offline Gyro

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Re: UK electronics mag
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2016, 06:35:04 pm »
I notice BYTE is included in the archive link you provided:

http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Byte_Magazine.htm

as are Practical Wireless and Practical Television, but sadly, not Practical Electronics.
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Re: UK electronics mag
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2016, 06:41:43 pm »
I notice BYTE is included in the archive link you provided:

http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Byte_Magazine.htm

as are Practical Wireless and Practical Television, but sadly, not Practical Electronics.

I could not see, computer mags. Thanks, I will look into that.

https://archive.org/, seems to have tons of practical electronics. Just use the search function, on that website.

E.g.
https://archive.org/details/PracticalElectronics1965November
 

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Re: UK electronics mag
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2016, 07:00:01 pm »


That is amazing!
A commodore 64, doing SPICE analysis. It hasn't even got floating point hardware, and the processor, is relatively weak/slow. It doesn't even have that much memory (although 64K is not bad, at the era when it was available, and I guess SPICE does not need that much). Maybe it's around 500K instructions per second, very approximately.

It would be very interesting, to read all about how, in great technical detail, SPICE works.

In its day, BYTE was a good/interesting magazine.
It was July 1986 Engineer's Toolbox. (Thirty years ago now!) I don't want to publish it myself on-line for copyright reasons but I think you can download it here:

https://ia802709.us.archive.org/35/items/byte-magazine-1986-07/1986_07_BYTE_11-07_Engineers_Toolbox.pdf

I used to also have a linear circuit analysis program that ran on the BBC micro - it generated conductance matrices for linear, proportional to omega and proportional to 1/omega. It worked well except you couldn't have time delays (except as approximations) which made transmission lines difficult.

If you're interested in SPICE I highly recommend getting yourself a copy of Lawrence Nagel's original 1975 PhD thesis ERL-520. I ordered myself a paper copy from his University years ago (it cost something like $11) but I think the pdf is also available on line.
http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/1975/ERL-520.pdf
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Re: UK electronics mag
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2016, 07:28:57 pm »
I could not see, computer mags. Thanks, I will look into that.

https://archive.org/, seems to have tons of practical electronics. Just use the search function, on that website.

E.g.
https://archive.org/details/PracticalElectronics1965November

...and I hadn't found that one either. Thank you!
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Re: UK electronics mag
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2016, 07:52:49 pm »
It was July 1986 Engineer's Toolbox. (Thirty years ago now!) I don't want to publish it myself on-line for copyright reasons but I think you can download it here:

https://ia802709.us.archive.org/35/items/byte-magazine-1986-07/1986_07_BYTE_11-07_Engineers_Toolbox.pdf

I used to also have a linear circuit analysis program that ran on the BBC micro - it generated conductance matrices for linear, proportional to omega and proportional to 1/omega. It worked well except you couldn't have time delays (except as approximations) which made transmission lines difficult.

If you're interested in SPICE I highly recommend getting yourself a copy of Lawrence Nagel's original 1975 PhD thesis ERL-520. I ordered myself a paper copy from his University years ago (it cost something like $11) but I think the pdf is also available on line.
http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/1975/ERL-520.pdf

Thanks!

I've just read the BYTE article, and it was very interesting and educational. The details, length and quality of his article, really rub in what has been said, earlier in this thread. Which is that as well as becoming, rare (electronics/computer magazines), especially on paper. The technical detail/strength and quality, has been significantly watered down, over the years.
It is rather sad, really.
As I hinted, in my earlier post, the lack of floating point hardware, the relative slowness of the processor (6502), and the limited memory size, DID impact on his SPICE project. But on the other hand, he has done a marvelous job, of (highly) optimizing his program.
He went to amazing lengths, including writing some of it in machine code. Directly calling the floating point routines in software, to save time. All sorts of other optimizations.
Thanks for the PDF SPICE file, I have downloaded it, ready to read, later.

I think these days, the furthest a magazine could go, is to say "SPICE". Then they can expect huge complaints, because so many people have NOT heard of it, or don't know what it is.

Those early days of electronics and computing, were such FUN!

I'm feeling SAD now, thinking, what I am missing now.

In another part of that BYTE magazine, it mentions a HUGELY powerful, 65536? node, super-computer. Which could then exceed a billion instructions per second, and cost a huge amount of money. These days, a raspberry PI, is probably considerably more powerful than that machine. Which might have been one of the most powerful computers, available then.

Anyway, thanks again for the links!
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Re: UK electronics mag
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2016, 10:28:38 am »
I was browsing the americanradiohistory.com website again last night and found that they have a selection of old ETI magazines too. I'd forgotten they had done quite so many microcomputer projects over the years, plus of course the audio and general stuff. Browsing through it's hard not to compare how badly the modern magazine offerings stand up in comparison.  Nostalgia time again:

http://www.americanradiohistory.com/ETI_Magazine.htm
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Re: UK electronics mag
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2016, 10:53:40 am »
Yes Byte & Dr Dobb's was compulsory reading.

Now occasionally I got a copy of c't - but that requires you read German - that is (or used to be) up there where Byte & Dr Dobb's was. I have not bought one in ages as they did not stock them in the Middle East - but maybe I'll go hunting around London for a retailer.  In the old days it was a big heavy magazine with lot's and lot's of interesting stuff in it. It took me about 2 months to read a whole issue (not only because my German is a bit slow - but it was the bee's knee's...)

http://www.heise.de/ct/
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Re: UK electronics mag
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2016, 11:30:07 am »
Don't go blaming the interweb for the demise of magazines , all imo it's the crap they started putting into the stuff that threw readers out , just a couple of small examples of types or consequences .

1-Getting into the mind of the reader , as deliberately telling a story or stories(projects or just stories) using words and the like designed (they think) to appease what they think you would like to read or hear = psychology .

So it ended up psychological BS  , then the so called authors started exaggerating worse and worse as if they had a fantastical storytelling licence .

2-Motorcycle magazines are and have been at the above for some years now , and loosing readers and several magazines gone , the bs in those supposedly true but maybe exaggerated opinions or inner truths are totally what they think is what one needs to read or even wants to read and associated with all those pictures of bikes with the rider on the road doing 60k's a hour and leaning forward like its doing 200k's a hour and looking real tough and cool and a hero is again total bs and totally psychological just for the reader .

Off topic wildly above but its the most common example i can think of just what happened to the electronics magazines , it seemed to take along time for people just to stop buying them as quite a few electronics have disappeared in Au all because of the same story .

Personally i'm glad they are gone , the neurotic crap that is/was sneaking in those things started to get real "Creepy" .

Also i'm not sure about this but all the newsagents in a 100klm radius now do not stock any Uk based motorcycle magazines around here , i'm sure its to do with all the adverts in them as its shows just how ripped off we get out here for stuff (i'm a conspiracy type) .
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Re: UK electronics mag
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2017, 04:21:31 pm »
I settled for EPE mag.
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Re: UK electronics mag
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2017, 07:07:18 pm »
Hiya

Elektor is only online now, it used to be one of my favourites and I have copies from the first issue to the early 2000s,
If you do a search there is a torrent available that covers 1990-2011 and DVD's are also available direct from them.

I would suggest the Folksanomy Electronics archive :

https://archive.org/details/folkscanomy_electronics


and Folkscanomy electronics articles archive for a browse:

https://archive.org/details/folkscanomy_electronics_articles

There is also:

http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Hobbyist_Special_Editions.htm


Cheers
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Re: UK electronics mag
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2017, 10:03:54 pm »
I'm in the UK, Every day practical electronics.. If it's still avaliable, I think it is, in places like WH Smiths. Use to get it years ago, takes me back, they had some good projects in there.
 

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Re: UK electronics mag
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2017, 11:21:19 am »
I will look at those, thanks.

Yes, EPE is what "Every day practical electronics" headlines as - it's still pretty good, cheers.
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Radio & Electronics World 1982
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2017, 09:57:34 am »
Has anybody got a copy from circa 1982 with the 2m/70cm preamp article?

Have acquired one presumably made from a Cirkit/Ambit kit and would like to find more details.

It has ThoTsu 120 size relays so should be quite high power.

Thanks
 


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