Who is on crack? Me or the chinese DMM?

[Cerebus]

So let me see, your justification for this is "Two wrongs make a right". You were, at best, insensitive towards a handicapped person when the evidence for their handicap was staring you in the face, at worst deliberately offensive - only you know which it was. It doesn't matter who it is, or what they have done, you don't pick on people over things they have no control over, be that colour of skin, handicap, gender or whatever. That's not PC platitudes, it's common decency. That's what's got people's panties in a bunch about your behaviour.

I was picking him not for blindness. I was picking him for the history of trolling.
From my last post, I was also picking him for sinophobia, and I have one more thing to pick, which I will not reveal for now. When I feel needed, I will reveal it.
BTW, initially I was not offensive, but the more I got provoked, the more offensive I will be.
Make your choice. I just decided to say good bye to PC and decency, so let's go south together if it has to go down that path.

You're not worth the candle mate, you've made that quite clear. If you want to make any more threatening noises from behind your keyboard feel free, but I won't be listening to them and I won't be responding. I've no desire to have the pointless slanging march that you seem to be asking for. At some point in real life you are going to get yourself into a situation where your attitude and behaviour is going to do you real harm, where the consequences aren't mild, polite rebuke from behind another keyboard but a lost job, or a good hard kicking from some red-neck whose tolerance for your 'I can say what I like about who I like' attitude isn't as mild as mine. Good luck, I suspect you're going to need it.

[DimitriP]

Asking one minute Googlable questions is itself a disrespect to people who spent time answering.

You can say that again!!!
Unfortunately there is always someone willing to post a To-Long-T-Read diatrabe on the subject. Which only propagates the problem.

surely there were duds with that label too (I think the VW Golf I, sold as 'rabbit' in the US, was one).

I believe there was a really really crappy version that ended up getting sent here. In the 80's the european "versiions" were not as crappy and looked a lot better than the tuna cans they sent here.

I don't quite understand why blueskull is now on the receiving end of the collective eevblog wrath.

Collective maybe, but certainly not unanimous !!!

You were, at best, insensitive towards a handicapped person when the evidence for their handicap was staring you in the face, at worst deliberately offensive -

The dynamic range of your opinion is highly compressed.
How about he responded as if it was anyone else complaining about their dog eating their homework and they need help "right now"!!!.

it's common decency

Posting history shows plenty of common decency.

got people's panties in a bunch about your behaviour.

You can speak for yourself all day long.
Not everyone panties got in a bunch.  Good for him to speak up and say what other were also thinking!!!

... common sense questions. These don't need a degree in EE to know the answer. Even without a good common sense, a one minute Googling will tell the answer. Asking one minute Googlable questions is itself a disrespect to people who spent time answering.

     

[Cerebus]

Just FYI, not everyone can see user signatures. For example, Tapatalk does not show the normal user signature at the bottom of their posts, nor does it show the custom user tag that's under their username like  the normal forum web view does. In Tapatalk, I see their profile picture, username and post, that's it. (Which is actually quite nice as it's a lot less cluttered!)

I didn't realise that. Which would take the wind from my sails, save that Blueskull has now made it abundantly clear that this is personal animus and that the facts of the case are now probably completely irrelevant.

Also, since you're trying to be so PC, you should know handicapped is no longer the apropos term. Try "handicapable" instead. "Differentlyabled" is also acceptable.

The very last thing I'm trying to be is PC. Hell, I'm a London Eastender, we don't know how to be PC. My mother used to describe my Father as a man who wouldn't "call a spade a spade, he'd call it a bloody shovel" - I take after him. I just don't believe in seeing a man kicked when he's down.

[Mr. Scram]

I hate auto ranging meters. Just as you get used to looking at certain numbers the scale changes.

I always wondered why people were so adamant about auto-ranging meters, but your post confirms my feelings. I do think they can be useful and easy, but they also sometimes jump all over the place without a chance of seeing what you are dealing with. Having both types around certainly does not seem to hurt.

You know, in China we have a saying that only after the ship for retreating is broken can a battle to be won.

I like that one, I need to remember it.

[RobertHolcombe]

I hate auto ranging meters. Just as you get used to looking at certain numbers the scale changes.

I always wondered why people were so adamant about auto-ranging meters, but your post confirms my feelings. I do think they can be useful and easy, but they also sometimes jump all over the place without a chance of seeing what you are dealing with. Having both types around certainly does not seem to hurt.

A decent auto-ranging meter will have a range button allowing selection of manual ranges. Working as a tech I can only think of a handful of times I've needed to disable the auto range function, but you're right; it is invaluable when a voltage is alternating between ranges.

[neko efecktz]

WHY DON'Y YOU ALL JUST DROP IT.
Raspberrypi has a vision problem and misread his meter that I believe he has only just recently purchased due to the failure of his fluke.
You are all wrong and you are all right.
Now he probably feels like a fool for not seeing the obvious.
I would hate to see someone being driven away from a valuable forum as this.
I myself sometimes have trouble seeing settings on my meters and other test equipment.
I need to ware reading glasses, intermediate  and long distance glasses.
I need to keep changing them while i work. and at home.

please be a little more compassionate towards others.

BILL

[Mr. Scram]

WHY DON'Y YOU ALL JUST DROP IT.

Dropping it might harm the calibration, so I'd rather keep my DMM on the table.

[tooki]

WHY DON'Y YOU ALL JUST DROP IT.
Raspberrypi has a vision problem and misread his meter that I believe he has only just recently purchased due to the failure of his fluke.
You are all wrong and you are all right.
Now he probably feels like a fool for not seeing the obvious.
I would hate to see someone being driven away from a valuable forum as this.
I myself sometimes have trouble seeing settings on my meters and other test equipment.
I need to ware reading glasses, intermediate  and long distance glasses.
I need to keep changing them while i work. and at home.

please be a little more compassionate towards others.

BILL

For sure, this forum can occasionally demonstrate some of the stereotypical engineer traits of not being terribly good with novices, overwhelming us beginners with correct information that is nonetheless useless because it far exceeds our current skill level, knowledge, or understanding. (But in all fairness, this forum is a lot better for beginners than anything I've seen in Linux or Arduino forums, and for this I am thankful.)

As for disability, I assume others will join me in making the following offer:
raspberrypi (or anyone else who needs it), if you are having trouble reading something, send the PDF, screenshot, or photo and I will do my best to help you out.

[Gyro]

I know a number of us here are industry professionals [Edit: and of course others] who have had to give up due to health issues of one kind of another. We generally hang out here for a bit of light relief / keeping our hand in / an opportunity to pass on some knowledge / get out from under the wife's (sorry, 'significant other's') feet, etc. Maybe we should all change our sigs to provide some explanation for our sometimes inexplicable behavior... 

I'm thinking about changing mine to:

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Chris

Brain tumour... may make me slow on the uptake, easy to confuse, prone to error, and generally behave like Victor Meldrew!

[Mr. Scram]

Brain tumour... may make me slow on the uptake, easy to confuse, prone to error, and generally behave like Victor Meldrew!

The story you guys are telling are hitting me hard. It is so easy to forget the luxury of the position you're in.

[Gyro]

Hey, I get some more time to play with my toys instead of fighting issues in the office. It's not all bad! 

Edit: Of course I'm lucky that it has come near the end of my career, it's not necessarily the same in other cases.

[Kilrah]

OP asked "Who is on crack? Me or the chinese DMM?" as a topic title, followed by "Or am I just blind" which anybody would say to suggest "am I just being a dumbass?" - Nothing in this suggest he's actually blind/suffering from bad eyesight. Rather sounds humoristic/provocative, and will thus attract a similar tone in the answers.

So it's kinda obvious the answers would be either "you're on crack" or "you're blind" or "WTF what a bad joke" when the first thing you see is that the meter is set on the mA range. Especially when posted on April fools day...

Any misinterpretation/confusion/excessively harsh answer on here is entirely down to OP's own wording. Had he asked "I've got bad eyesight and must be missing something, could someone help me find out where I'm wrong?" people would have understood and been nice.

[Mr. Scram]

Hey, I get some more time to play with my toys instead of fighting issues in the office. It's not all bad! 

Edit: Of course I'm lucky that it has come near the end of my career, it's not necessarily the same in other cases.

I am glad to hear you are doing okay. You are probably right about the second part too. If I am honest about what I look for in life, it is probably relevance beyond anything else, professionally and elsewhere. Money and material things are nice and would not mind having more, but at the same time I know they do not fulfil my needs at all, other than them allowing me to do those relevant things. The chance of something impeding that relevance even making it impossible scares me more than I would generally admit. It scares me a lot.

I guess that concludes this episode of my diary.

[Zero999]

Also, since you're trying to be PC, you should know handicapped is no longer the apropos term. Try "handicapable" instead. "Differentlyabled" is also acceptable. ;>

Lol, neither "handicapable" instead or "Differentlyabled" are in my dictionary. Perhaps it needs an update?

Bah, PC is bullshit. What's offensive changes over time and from place to place. A hundred years ago it was fine to use words, such as idiot and moron refer to someone with a low IQ, but that was offensive, so professionals started to refer to them as mentally retarded and now that's offensive so terms such as intellectual disability are used.

I'm all for showing understanding and treating others with respect but PC has gone too far.

[Bud]

He's also fairly young if I recall correctly,

No you do not recall correctly. By his own words he came to his dad's shack in 80-s as a kid.

Or if he did not , that just proves he is a troll.

I said a couple times before he is a troll.  I bet he is sitting now in his chair and laughing his ass out reading this thread. This is what trolls do. Spark heated conversations then step back and enjoy the show.

Those talking about his blindness - I beg you to tell where did you see his medical record.
Or this is what HE told you?

[Nusa]

Young is relative. Those that were kids in the 80's are younger than me, and I'm still a bit shy of claiming senior citizen discounts.

[RGB255_0_0]

This thread has been entertaining since raspberry got banned. He's really trolled the living shit way passed his RIP date and thus succeeded in what he came here to do: causing an intra-forum fight. 10/10 troll.

[rrinker]

 Possible problem with an autoranging meter - it will display the same 5.05 on the display but then a little ma annunciator to let you know it is 5.05 ma and not 5.05 amps. If reading the LCD is not a problem for you, then autoranging might avoid this. But if you have trouble reading the smaller markings on the LCD ( I don't know of any of the popular meters where the units part is as large as the digits - but I'll bet there's something out there), then just learning the dial positions of the manual range meter may be more usable as you can tell where the knob is turned by touch alone. I'm not sure exactly where your vision level falls, I can still read displays on meters and screens with no problem (with corrective lenses, without I cannot see clearly past my nose) and glaucoma has taken about 50% of the visual field of my right eye, so I pretty much have to view everything from my left eye with a little bit of fill in from the right but it's distracting since it shows up as a haze in the areas where the optic nerve is damaged on the right. I've had surgery in both eyes to keep the right from getting worse and to prevent damage to the left. There's a good reason I haven't attempted SMD soldering by hand. Even with my USB microscope at a 27" display, which makes an SMD resistor look HUGE - it's not about the size or focus, it's about the clarity.

[Zero999]

This thread has been entertaining since raspberry got banned. He's really trolled the living shit way passed his RIP date and thus succeeded in what he came here to do: causing an intra-forum fight. 10/10 troll.

Is he banned? That's the first I've ever heard of it.

I'm not sure if he's a troll but most of the threads he's created have turned to petty flaming, so I can see why.

[CatalinaWOW]

It would explain why he hasn't been back to re-stir this pot.

[MK14]

This thread has been entertaining since raspberry got banned. He's really trolled the living shit way passed his RIP date and thus succeeded in what he came here to do: causing an intra-forum fight. 10/10 troll.

Is he banned? That's the first I've ever heard of it.

I'm not sure if he's a troll but most of the threads he's created have turned to petty flaming, so I can see why.

I've thought/known they were a troll for a very long time. To me it was obvious.

He seemed to get banned in another thread, and/or his banning was discussed there.

I've not linked to it, because of the nature of it. It was partly deleted (I think) and is best not repeated.
Don't worry, you are not missing anything interesting, it was nonsense (apparently), but readily ban worthy.

[KL27x]

Totally unrelated to raspberry. I know a girl who started a fundraiser when she found out she was legally blind. Yeah, I say "found out." I wonder if her doctor told her she was legally blind in one eye, or something. Which is something of an oxymoron and isn't actually legally blind, lol. Or maybe she heard she is "legally blind" without corrective lenses, which is also not technically being legally blind. I'm fairly certain she is not legally blind, because... she drives. A car.   

Raspberry. No offense meant to you, if you're reading this with super big font for legally blind people and/or "the squint."