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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1000 on: April 15, 2012, 05:30:12 pm »
Hacked mine to 100MHz without issue.
2.05 SP2 HW 58 to 2.04 SP1 using the 2.06 downgrade.
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Also USB works just fine.
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1001 on: April 26, 2012, 12:22:01 pm »
I've noticed strange behavior on the Rigol's triggering.  I haven't had a chance to test it in detail like this user did for a LeCroy WaveAce:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/product-reviews-photos-and-discussion/dso-triggering-issues/

This model LeCroy appears to share the same firmware as the Rigol, or maybe they are actually clones of each other, can anyone repeat his tests on your scope and see what happens?

I am away currently and can't do it.
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1002 on: April 26, 2012, 12:44:26 pm »
I have already done that without any problems, using my improved 1052E. :)

The readings captured and posted at this message were synchronised to Channel 2, triggered by positive pulses (equal to specific pulse widths of 60ns..300ns for each case), while Channel 1 was testing the PWM recovery time.

For example, the following screenshot was captured by setting Channel 2 to trigger an acquisition on a positive pulse equal to 300ns:




-George



EDIT: Forgot to say that the 1052 FW is v2.06 SP0 (2.06.00.01).
« Last Edit: April 26, 2012, 01:01:26 pm by A Hellene »
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1003 on: April 26, 2012, 02:09:01 pm »
VERY AWESOME, A. Hellene, many thanks!  I knew I posted in the right forum  ;)
I missed your post on that thread, I can reread it now.
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1004 on: April 26, 2012, 02:22:55 pm »
You are welcome, my friend! :)


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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1005 on: April 26, 2012, 02:54:00 pm »
I have already done that without any problems, using my improved 1052E. :)
-George
EDIT: Forgot to say that the 1052 FW is v2.06 SP0 (2.06.00.01).

"improved", you just mean firmware upgraded to 100MHz or some other modification?

So you are using v2.06 SP0, any problems with it? IS it available for download and is it any better than 2.04?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1006 on: April 26, 2012, 03:26:16 pm »
My use of the term "improved" in italics, Les, was just a euphemism of the term "hacked"! :)
I am just trying to improve my use of euphemisms! :P

Now, on the FW v2.06 SP0, it is available for download at this message and it seems to be working fine without the FW v2.05 induced LCD flickering. I should also point out this message, where it seems that 2.06 is responsible for inducing excessive noise in one device, at least; but I am not aware of another similar incident. Neither have I taken the firmware apart, in order to investigate it any further; not much time in my hands...


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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1007 on: May 22, 2012, 09:14:46 pm »
Hi all!
sorry for the terrible English))
hack my 1052E to1102E (00.02.06.00.01)
All is fine, except that does not work devil ULTRASCOPE
It does not really need, but ... something unpleasant!
Appears on the oscilloscope screen icon "RMT", but the program ULTRASCOPE displays "no device found"
The properties of the connection  can be seen string: "USB0 :: 0x1ab1 :: 0x0588 :: DS1eb1350 ..." continue to the serial number. Before flashing everything worked (cry).
Different versions of the drivers I've tried and it did not help...

what could be the problem?

and thanks for you grait work!!

And yet, tell someone a checksum of the original firmware version 00.02.06.00.01 please
« Last Edit: May 22, 2012, 09:31:41 pm by Sous »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1008 on: May 24, 2012, 06:26:57 pm »
Argh! My new scope is version 3.01. Anyone managed to hack this yet?
v2.06 was obviously becoming too well known and Rigol have changed the firmware again.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1009 on: May 24, 2012, 06:45:22 pm »
Impressive, 3.01 already, is there any difference in the operation?  I checked the USA website and was surprised by the new design and data. 

http://www.rigolna.com/products/digital-oscilloscopes/ds1000e/ds1052e/


Argh! My new scope is version 3.01. Anyone managed to hack this yet?
v2.06 was obviously becoming too well known and Rigol have changed the firmware again.
« Last Edit: May 24, 2012, 07:18:42 pm by saturation »
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1010 on: May 24, 2012, 09:17:00 pm »
And yet, tell someone a checksum of the original firmware version 00.02.06.00.01 please

I don't think anyone has posted the md5sum of firmware 00.02.06.00.01 but I have downloaded both archives that A Helenes and torch has provided (the second one has an md5sum on the zip file) and in both cases the md5sum of fw 00.02.06.00.01 is baa6b0763a6041a4a8303eb470847761. Use at your own risk though.

What I find very funny is that Dave's video about the hack is there in the 3rd Party Videos section on the official Rigol site  :P
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1011 on: May 25, 2012, 12:27:11 pm »
I think this is unofficial acknowledgement that the hack made them far more profits selling more 1052e in volume than selling less 1102E at a higher price.


What I find very funny is that Dave's video about the hack is there in the 3rd Party Videos section on the official Rigol site  :P
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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1012 on: May 26, 2012, 09:37:27 pm »
Impressive, 3.01 already, is there any difference in the operation?  I checked the USA website and was surprised by the new design and data. 

http://www.rigolna.com/products/digital-oscilloscopes/ds1000e/ds1052e/


Argh! My new scope is version 3.01. Anyone managed to hack this yet?
v2.06 was obviously becoming too well known and Rigol have changed the firmware again.

What is more impressive that in the picture, shows DS1052E model -- 2 Channel -- 100Mhz -- 1GSa/s   ;D
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1013 on: May 27, 2012, 10:59:06 am »
My problem with the work ULTRASCOPE resolved.
I properly installed  WIN_XP rather than WIN _7x 64 and driver package from the site of NI.
It did not work on WIN _7x 64 for unknown reasons.
I installed the original firmware with the MD5 checksum (ver 2.06)
baa6b0763a6041a4a8303eb470847761
All is well! Normal flight ;D

Thank you all for a great job once again!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1014 on: May 28, 2012, 07:19:20 pm »
I think this is unofficial acknowledgement that the hack made them far more profits selling more 1052e in volume than selling less 1102E at a higher price.


What I find very funny is that Dave's video about the hack is there in the 3rd Party Videos section on the official Rigol site  :P

So very True.

Look at myself I am going for 1052e eyes closed. I am considering nothing else for a 100mhz oscope.
Big thanks to Dave and Hackers. well I do believe the hack does work even now.  other wise I wont mind it nonetheless as for the price they are offering, it is sure bang for the buck for my needs

can anybody confirm if the hack does work on the newer model or not for that additional peace of mind as I will be buying it within a week.

Thank fully.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2012, 07:45:19 pm by multijet »
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1015 on: May 29, 2012, 09:59:51 am »
What new features has the Version 3.01? Differences in the UI? I wish it has now a option for a white background and customizable colors for the waveforms  ;D ;D ;D

Is there any Download? Cant find anything at the Rigol website...
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1016 on: May 30, 2012, 06:16:18 pm »
Argh! My new scope is version 3.01. Anyone managed to hack this yet?
v2.06 was obviously becoming too well known and Rigol have changed the firmware again.

Aww ... oh well. I just ordered one -- $314 from Rigol North America delivered. I think it's still a good deal for what you get and perhaps we'll figure out the hack for the new firmware.  (You get a $30 discount by answering a simple 6 question quiz about Rigol's products.)

I'm excited!
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1017 on: May 30, 2012, 06:21:37 pm »
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1.firmware versions- 2.11  and serial number – DS1ED134612896 of the Model – DS1052E which you will be delivering .
2.service center – in delhi and calibration facility in India- already calibrated by rigol
3.update firmwares – no. and software availability – yes.

Above is the spec Given today by the regional Rigol dealer in India. nowhere it says version 3.

Can anybody put some suggestions please ?
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1018 on: May 31, 2012, 04:26:03 am »
Wow, they're up to version 3.01?  I hope they fixed the annoying design of resetting the display every bloody time I change the vertical scale.

They should just make the firmware open source and let the hackers make it better.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1019 on: June 05, 2012, 01:08:55 am »
I just got my 1052e and it has v 2.06 on the splash screen, so I guess I'm good to go?

I downloaded the zip archive and md5sum of the tools from a few pages back.

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1020 on: June 11, 2012, 11:52:19 pm »
Wow, they're up to version 3.01?  I hope they fixed the annoying design of resetting the display every bloody time I change the vertical scale.

They should just make the firmware open source and let the hackers make it better.

Got my scope I ordered a week ago from Rigol North America and it is 00.02.06.00.01 (HW58)
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1021 on: June 17, 2012, 05:07:38 pm »
One more Rigol DS1052E (SW 00.02.06.00.01, HW58) scope successfully hacked by me. Was bought in local electronics store for job purposes.
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1022 on: June 18, 2012, 09:53:27 pm »
Got my scope I ordered a week ago from Rigol North America and it is 00.02.06.00.01 (HW58)

Me too -- working great with the USB mod. Thanks guys!

I flashed back to 02.06.00.01 and it's working perfectly. While still on 2.02 (during the hack) I noticed the screen flickering people report with 2.05. Back on 2.06 and all is perfect. No noise or other problems luckily....
 

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Re: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide
« Reply #1024 on: June 22, 2012, 06:57:01 am »
discuss the new firmware!
 


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