changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide

[pash]

OK, Thanks a lot for this one, it worked well, 100 MHz BW available,
but lots of screen flickr (every 5-10 seconds white screen) .

Would like to revert back to original 02.05.02  (much less flickering once every 5 minutes) ,
can't find this Firmware anywhere, pls help!

DS1052E with fixed FW 00.04.00.01 and heavy duty screen flickering.




FIXED!!!! Perform

 [Storage] -> Factory -> Load     

fixes the flickering issue!


No more help needed!

All worked for me too after the  [Storage] -> Factory -> Load...

HW58 from 00.02.06.00.01 to 00.04.00.00.01

Thanks to all   

PS.  Not sure I will ever use such a high frequency...

[uprightsquire]

I just noticed the screen flickering issue and was going to post asking about downgrading to 3.01. Easy fix. Cheers!

[tylerl]

I'm afraid, you will experience issues with trigger delay with this method, can anybody test?

This what you're referring to? I forgot to capture the "normal" operation before upgrading/hacking, so I don't have a control case to compare against.

Note, this scope was purchased a few days ago direct from Rigol North-America, had 00.03.00 from factory, upgrade path: 00.04.00 -> 00.02.02 [hacked] -> 00.04.00. Self-cal done before start of upgrade process, but not since.

[tylerl]

Has anyone had experience with upgrading the new 03.01 scopes who knows:

• Is it safe to run Self-cal on a new 03.01 scope with firmware 04.00 installed (after downgrading to 02.02/hacking/upgrading)?
• Will doing so re-establish whatever calibration is lost with respect to the trigger delay issue mentioned in recent posts?

[merseyless]

be very careful with Gizmo's firmware, I just bricked my ds1052e when attempting the hack.

Anyone have any advice on how to fix a bricked scope?

[drieg]

I'm afraid, you will experience issues with trigger delay with this method, can anybody test?

This what you're referring to? I forgot to capture the "normal" operation before upgrading/hacking, so I don't have a control case to compare against.

Note, this scope was purchased a few days ago direct from Rigol North-America, had 00.03.00 from factory, upgrade path: 00.04.00 -> 00.02.02 [hacked] -> 00.04.00. Self-cal done before start of upgrade process, but not since.

Yes, that's it, but it is not so bad with your unit. Check both sampling modes, real-time and equ-time. If you wish to fix it, there is a SCPI command, but it's not working in latest version unfortunately (another bug).

[Fraser]

I keep popping by this thread to see what is happening in the world of the Rigol DSO upgrade.

One thing that keeps occurring is people upgrading to 100MHz, and then installing the very latest firmware, bugs and all !

I have HW58 running 100MHz with version 2.04 firmware. I stayed with 2.04 because I saw no benefit in loading one of the later, often less stable, firmwares.

For the new visitors to this thread it may be useful if someone with the knowledge could advise whether there is truly any advantage to using the latest version firmware. I commented in this thread some time ago that Rigol had indicated that the DS1052e 2.04 firmware was stable and any later firmware versions would be purely 'housekeeping' changes invisible to the user. Well some of those changes were in fact efforts to prevent this upgrade to 100MHz....not much benefit to the user then 

I am aware that later firmwares support more USB memory sticks but I have yet to have a problem with any of mine.

To the new reader of this thread I offer this simple comment..... please do not become a sheep....if you upgrade to 100MHz and have no need to go above firmware 2.04 then don't follow the flock just because the firmware version is later. Newer is not always better where firmware is concerned.

Just my 2 cents

Fraser

[Gizmo]

be very careful with Gizmo's firmware, I just bricked my ds1052e when attempting the hack.

Anyone have any advice on how to fix a bricked scope?

I would just like to point out THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MODDED FIRMWARE.

Upgrading the Rigol is a slightly risky thing to do, as there is absolutely no error checking performed on the Rigol unit before they write the data to the flash.

The MD5 was posted with the firmware image. ALWAYS make sure you check the MD5 of the update file WHEN IT'S ON YOUR MEMORY STICK to ensure the data made it across ok.

During upgrade also make sure you don't power off until the upgrade is complete, as this WILL BRICK YOUR SCOPE.

In general, Rigol have been very lazy in how they handle their flashing which is what leads to avoidable bricking on upgrade.

For help on unbricking, check out this thread --

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/the-dark-side-of-the-rigol-hack-bricked-scope-how-to-fix-it/

[bigeev]

Popping in to give thanks to everyone on this forum. Thanks to you I've successfully "upgraded" the 1052E I purchased a couple of years ago. I'm happy to stay on 02.04.01.02 however -- not sure there's any point in going above that (HWVers 57).

Thanks!

[RFT-Guy]

I would like to thank gizmo for his "downgrade-less" upgrade procedure to V 4. It worked perfectly. All I have observed so far is the flickering, which can be fixed by loading factory defaults. Only the trigger point diplay is a little off in the 5 and 2 nS /div display (half a division). I did'nt check this before updating. Maybe someone with factory firmware can shed some light over this...


Again: Thanks a lot to all for getting this thread going!


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[tylerl]

Yes, that's it, but it is not so bad with your unit. Check both sampling modes, real-time and equ-time. If you wish to fix it, there is a SCPI command, but it's not working in latest version unfortunately (another bug).

So.... is there a solution then? Perhaps downgrading to 2.04 will allow me to fix the trigger problem? Or can the appropriate correction factors be programmed directly via JTAG?

If there is a solution, can you point to some instructions? (Instructions would be *greatly* appreciated).

[plazma]

Looks like there is a new model.
http://dx.com/p/rigol-ds-1072u-5-6-lcd-70mhz-512kpts-500ms-s-2-ch-digital-oscilloscope-grey-3-flat-pin-plug-191981

[saturation]

This is very interesting, there is no such model listed on Rigol's website. Why sell a scope for more money yet have reduced Ms/s rate?  I wonder if this is counterfeit.  The Rigol label also lacks the TUV certification mark and the EFUP labels now required for sold in China electronic devices.

Looks like there is a new model.
http://dx.com/p/rigol-ds-1072u-5-6-lcd-70mhz-512kpts-500ms-s-2-ch-digital-oscilloscope-grey-3-flat-pin-plug-191981

[Gizmo]

There appear to be a load of different models setup in the firmware.

DS1x7x - 70Mhz
DS1x6x - 60Mhz
DS1x4x - 40Mhz
DS1x2x - 25Mhz

As well as the more common 50, 100 and 150 Mhz versions.

So it appears to be legit, as this is the official Rigol firmware image.

[equinoxefr]

Yes, that's it, but it is not so bad with your unit. Check both sampling modes, real-time and equ-time. If you wish to fix it, there is a SCPI command, but it's not working in latest version unfortunately (another bug).

So.... is there a solution then? Perhaps downgrading to 2.04 will allow me to fix the trigger problem? Or can the appropriate correction factors be programmed directly via JTAG?

If there is a solution, can you point to some instructions? (Instructions would be *greatly* appreciated).

Here's a solution that works for me: downgrade to 3.01, change your trigger calibration with drieg SCPI commands and next,  upgrade to 4. Now I have a perfect calibration ^_^

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 7 avec Tapatalk

[Uffe]

Worked like a charm, thanks for all the great info!

[RFT-Guy]

Where can I get the How - To and a List of these SCPI Commands ?

Gruß aus Hamburg!

Michael

[radiogeek97]

my 1052e arrived from rigol today it came with the version 4 firmware loaded in it.  i know it was mensioned to check the MD5 checksum with the file on the stick How would one go about doing this?
just as an aside would any of you folks see any benefit for a novice holding on to a techtronix 935 its an oldie but a negihbor only wants 50 bucks for it and it works fine.    I think i will study up on this upgrade for a bit before i try it.  that being said if anybody needs any info from a fresh factory scope let me knkow

take care
john

[Gizmo]

To check the files MD5, you need an MD5 calculator. Something like this --

http://www.bullzip.com/products/md5/info.php

Check the number it gives you against the reference, if they match, the file is identical!

 

[pico]

hi Gizmo -- Just bought a new ds1052e today, sw version 00.04.00.00.01, hw version 58, had a DS1ET serial no. like yours. Applied your 4.0.0.1 patch, everything went smoothly, I can now see the 2nS time division.  No screen flicker problem either, AFAICT.

Just wondering how to (easily?) check if I now have trigger point calibration that needs fixing? Cheers!

[radiogeek97]

i had one silly question so far,   My ds1052e came from the factory with version 4 firmware, so should I be ok with using the 4.0 to 2.02 firmware tool right off.  I am assuming that the version 4 firmware the tool is looking for is the same as the factory version 4 that the scope shipped with.  I was just concerned that the software tool may have beem looking for a "modified ver4 firmware"
hope this makes sense?

[Gizmo]

I would just use the modified firmware and save yourself a whole heap of pain and potential scope bricking. The old downgrade method has lots of potential problems. So far, the modified firmware has no issues that I am aware of, apart from the inherent issue of potential bricking when you upgrade any Rigol, thanks to the lack of any data integrity checking on the unit. But this is a scope / firmware issue caused by Rigol themselves.

Start reading here for details --

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/changing-the-rigol-ds1052e-to-ds1102e-using-usb-the-dummy-guide/1200/

[radiogeek97]

Gizmo

     thanks I will study up well on this before I try anything, i am in no rush to void my 3 year warranty    thanks for your advice,

[Klas-Kenny]

I just upgraded my DS1052E to 100MHz with info from this thread, huge thanks!

[radiogeek97]

figured I would post some specs om my 1052E before i attempt the upgrade from Gizmo

serial# ds1et150100xxx
software vers 00.04.00.00.01
dsp 00.01
fgpa 03.07
hardware version 58
  i am downloading the md5 checker now.

So to reiterate I have confirmed that my thumb drive reads and writes to and from my rogol
i will downloade gizmos firmware update to the stick
i will check the md5 checksum against the one that gizmo posted
i will then place the drive into the rigol and follow prompts
that should be it ?
If i missed anything let me know but it seems pretty user friendly




the md5 checked out on both files so i went ahead and uploaded the file to the rigol and all seems well!   What is the general concencus on doing the Self-Calibration   Yeay or neay
thanks
john