changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide

[Aigars]

i tray this all, but not work for me. i need downgrade to the 02.02.sp2. new i have inside 04.01. du u have a freeware 02.02 ? if yes, can i get from u?

[Gizmo]

i tray this all, but not work for me. i need downgrade to the 02.02.sp2. new i have inside 04.01. du u have a freeware 02.02 ? if yes, can i get from u?

The scope will only update with a newer version than is already present. I assume you already have 00.04.01.00.02. So you either need a newer version of the firmware to flash to, or frig the header to make it look newer than it is.

[Aigars]

sou, how i understend, may version is not posible hack to the 100mhz?

[Aigars]

hm, but i se in Dave video, its tok about downgrade alsou. not only upgrade.

[Gizmo]

The video is very old, Rigol have updated the firmware and closed a few back doors since then. You can downgrade -- people hacked the header of the flash to make it look like it was newer to trick the scope into updating the firmware.

So the option for you is, get a firmware newer than your current firmware and apply the 100Mhz patch (if you look back a few pages in this thread you will see people are patching different firmwares just by searching for a pattern and changing one byte). Or use the existing firmware and patch the header to make it look newer than it is to get the scope to reflash it. The info on how to do this is way back in this thread.

I cant help with any changes at the moment due to lack of time. 

[Aigars]

The video is very old, Rigol have updated the firmware and closed a few back doors since then. You can downgrade -- people hacked the header of the flash to make it look like it was newer to trick the scope into updating the firmware.

So the option for you is, get a firmware newer than your current firmware and apply the 100Mhz patch (if you look back a few pages in this thread you will see people are patching different firmwares just by searching for a pattern and changing one byte). Or use the existing firmware and patch the header to make it look newer than it is to get the scope to reflash it. The info on how to do this is way back in this thread.

I cant help with any changes at the moment due to lack of time. 

ok, tx. u can give me tutorial about this, when u have a time.

[Aigars]

Thanks fellas,

Installed and working well.  Took a bit to wade threw all the post to figure out how easy it is now with the usb firmware update.  Also had issues with a 4 gig memstick and had to find a 2 gig to make it work.  Also for newbs, only copy the DS1000EUpdate.RGL file to the mem stick, don't copy the .MD5 file.  Power off the scope, install the memstick, power back on and accept the update.  Restart and enjoy.

Again very cool hack thanks again.

Jeff

where u get lovers soft?

[MudMan]

Here we go, latest firmware update (00.04.01.00.02) with 100Mhz mod.

CRC32: 4EF27EF4
MD5: b3be022a8890c7448ed68a189c1071b1

https://anonfiles.com/file/be1d042d3757bd9073335a09554ccea3

And kindly also hosted more permanently here:

http://jahansen.com/rigol/DS1000EUpdate.00.04.01.00.02.zip

Instructions as before --

Copy the DS1000EUpdate.RGL file from the zip onto a memory stick, put it in the scope, and select OK when it asks if you want to update the firmware. It's that simple.

For your peace of mind, check the file's MD5 against the above number when it's on your memory stick to ensure it's correct before flashing and always do "eject" on the drive if using windows before pulling out the stick. The scope doesn't bother with any data integrity checking, which is a bit of a shame, so if the file is corrupted at all, you will most likely brick the scope.

Gizmo

Why do you need an old Firmware? Only to do the 100MHz patch by changing the serial no.?
If you want to patch your scope to 100MHz, get the latest firmware from Gizmo (link above in the quote). An do the upgrade procedure. With the version 00.04.01.00.02 installed, it is possible to do an "update" to the same version.

[Gizmo]

Why do you need an old Firmware? Only to do the 100MHz patch by changing the serial no.?
If you want to patch your scope to 100MHz, get the latest firmware from Gizmo (link above in the quote). An do the upgrade procedure. With the version 00.04.01.00.02 installed, it is possible to do an "update" to the same version.

D'oh, yes, this is something I had forgotten. You can upgrade to the same firmware version. So, yes, what is the problem? 

[Aigars]

Why do you need an old Firmware? Only to do the 100MHz patch by changing the serial no.?
If you want to patch your scope to 100MHz, get the latest firmware from Gizmo (link above in the quote). An do the upgrade procedure. With the version 00.04.01.00.02 installed, it is possible to do an "update" to the same version.

D'oh, yes, this is something I had forgotten. You can upgrade to the same firmware version. So, yes, what is the problem? 

its dont chenge from 50mhz to the 100mhz. how i know, posible hack in old tipe soft. like 02.02.sp2

[Gizmo]

its dont chenge from 50mhz to the 100mhz. how i know, posible hack in old tipe soft. like 02.02.sp2

If it doesn't recognise one firmware update, it wont recognise any. Is it actually flashing? If not, try a different memory stick, make sure it's FAT32 formatted (not NTFS). If it is flashing, what makes you think it's not 100MHz?

[Aigars]

its dont chenge from 50mhz to the 100mhz. how i know, posible hack in old tipe soft. like 02.02.sp2

If it doesn't recognise one firmware update, it wont recognise any. Is it actually flashing? If not, try a different memory stick, make sure it's FAT32 formatted (not NTFS). If it is flashing, what makes you think it's not 100MHz?

i think its new works. i can get 2 ns. wery wery big tx.

[Gizmo]

 

[Mr_Computer]

Hi guys, have been a lurker of the forum for a while and finally decided to make my first post.

Just recently got my ds1052e  scope from emona with the latest firmware and had been trolling through this thread since Gizmo's first USB firmware patch post. I know that patching to 100Mhz is a cinch with the USB method but due to differing opinion and reports I am still unsure about a number of things.

1. Do not self calibrate - From what I get from this thread I should not calibrate the scope after the mod patch? Or is this inherent of the original firmware v4? Someone also mentioned that it is alright to calibrate after 30min ON time even after the patch, so does this mean if I want to calibrate the scope without any trigger offsets after the mod I should wait 30min first or will self calibration be avoid forever after mod patch?

2. If I want to return to my original 50Mhz firmware I would have to get a modified downgrade version of that firmware to downgrade?

Cheers

[Gizmo]

Hi guys, have been a lurker of the forum for a while and finally decided to make my first post.

Just recently got my ds1052e  scope from emona with the latest firmware and had been trolling through this thread since Gizmo's first USB firmware patch post. I know that patching to 100Mhz is a cinch with the USB method but due to differing opinion and reports I am still unsure about a number of things.

1. Do not self calibrate - From what I get from this thread I should not calibrate the scope after the mod patch? Or is this inherent of the original firmware v4? Someone also mentioned that it is alright to calibrate after 30min ON time even after the patch, so does this mean if I want to calibrate the scope without any trigger offsets after the mod I should wait 30min first or will self calibration be avoid forever after mod patch?

2. If I want to return to my original 50Mhz firmware I would have to get a modified downgrade version of that firmware to downgrade?

Cheers

I think the self-calibrate thing was more to do with doing the downgrade / upgrade route. Going the modded firmware route, I think self calibrate is just fine. Although I've never bothered trying it myself, as the scope has done what I need it to do without having to re-calibrate. I guess the original factory calibration works just fine for my purposes...

If you want to return to the stock firmware, just copy it to the stick and reflash. Simple as that. You'll need the same or newer version of the firmware you already have installed (as mentioned in the posts above).

[Mr_Computer]

Thanks Gizmo
Got all the uncertainties sorted out will see how it goes. 

Cheers

[AndersAnd]

Yes, it should do the same. The bit of code in question just compares the serial number to known values and sets a variable to specify the model. I imagine this code has always been the same. You can also modify the code differently to set the scope into 150mhz mode, although I have never tried this...

What's the code for 150 MHz?
50 MHz = 09
100 MHz = 01
150 MHz = ??

I don't know off hand...

I'll dig out the disassembly next week and let you know.

Hi Gizmo, have you dug it out yet?

[Gizmo]

Hi Gizmo, have you dug it out yet?

150Mhz DS1152E = 5   

[straycat]

Hi guys. I spotted this in the blog..........Assuming that you're patching a 1052 model, the "patch byte" should be:

100 Mhz = 01
50 Mhz = 09
150 MHz = 29

other options present in the firmware:
25 MHz = 21
40 MHz = 19
60 MHz = 11
70 MHz = 31

Can anyone tell me if this is right?. Gizmo has the 150Mhz DS1152E = 5.
Any ideas?. thanks.

[Gizmo]

I checked my disassembly of the firmware and it as 5 for the 150mhz model... I'm not at my pc currently, but I can double check. I seem to remember all the numbers were low, though, so those above don't look right to me. I'd have to check though!

[AndersAnd]

Hi guys. I spotted this in the blog..........

What blog? Link?

[straycat]

great,thank you for that gizmo.   AndersAnd page 100 on here.

[AndersAnd]

AndersAnd page 100 on here.

What reply#? This topic is still only 31 pages long for me. In the forum settings you can choose how many posts to have per page, so referring to a page# in a topic is never a good idea as it's different from member to member depending on their personal forum settings. I like to have as many posts per page as possible so you don't have to click the page button all the time.

If you click at the top of any post you get the direct link to that post. I find it much better to just click on this and copy/paste it whenever I refer to a post so everyone can just click on it. And this still works if some other replies before it is deleted again. I think the reply# decreases if you delete any posts before it and it can also switch to another page#.

[straycat]

Thank you AndersAnd for the info. I got HexEdit and for the life of me i cant find  001d950: e501 00a8 6108 0805 1001 6089 e67d 0050. Can anyone point me in the right direction,and how to change the value.All help would be greatfull as saves me changing mod number. thank you.

[MudMan]

Just search for "e501 00a8 6108 0805 1001 6089 e67d 0050" not for "001d950". The "001d950" is the address an will be different in the various firmware versions.