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eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« on: April 09, 2015, 09:07:31 am »
In the latest videos on Dave Jones second channel, he showed a screen capture of his primary YouTube account in order to illustrate the new terms and services which Google has enforced.

But during that screen capture you could see a new video that was uploaded on March 27, which has not been released yet (set to private). ;) It is named eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave with a thumbnail showing both Dave Jones and presumably the intern also named Dave? However since March 27 the April fools video was uploaded with the eevBLAB #8 so this video will probably be #9 when he decides to release it.  :-+

Link to second channel video which shows the account:
https://youtu.be/0fEEdACthuE?t=2m6s

Attachment with a screenshot of the videos in Dave Jones account:
« Last Edit: April 18, 2015, 07:32:15 am by eV1Te »
 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave ??? First introduction of the eevIntern?
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2015, 04:53:14 pm »
I noticed that too and that's how I found this forum post.
 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave ??? First introduction of the eevIntern?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2015, 01:13:48 am »
Some of us(subscribers) have already seen that video a few weeks ago.. 

Do YOU want to see it?

If so, then sign up and support Dave via https://www.patreon.com/ or the website http://www.eevblog.com/donations/
« Last Edit: April 10, 2015, 01:18:48 am by nixfu »
 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave ??? First introduction of the eevIntern?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2015, 01:31:39 am »
Do YOU want to see it?

If so, then sign up and support Dave
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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave ??? First introduction of the eevIntern?
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2015, 01:35:40 am »
Or post over a thousand times on the forum.
 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave ??? First introduction of the eevIntern?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2015, 04:02:33 am »
Or post over a thousand times on the forum.

How do I say this without it seeming as a waste of time...

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave ??? First introduction of the eevIntern?
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2015, 04:09:35 am »
Or post over a thousand times on the forum.

How do I say this without it seeming as a waste of time...

+1 count.

565 to go should be there in 5 or 6 hours, no problem. Look at Dave's post count that's crazy.
 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave ??? First introduction of the eevIntern?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2015, 05:20:31 am »
 #9.

Meet dave.

Thump....Thump....Thump...........Thump....Thump.....Thump.............Thump...........Thump.Thump.Thump.Thump.Thump.........Thump.


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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave ??? First introduction of the eevIntern?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2015, 05:29:27 am »
#9.

Meet dave.

Thump....Thump....Thump...........Thump....Thump.....Thump.............Thump...........Thump.Thump.Thump.Thump.Thump.........Thump.


Stop banging the table. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it.
LOOL relax, first time in front of the camera, many would be like that

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave ??? First introduction of the eevIntern?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2015, 07:14:52 am »
#9.

Meet dave.

Thump....Thump....Thump...........Thump....Thump.....Thump.............Thump...........Thump.Thump.Thump.Thump.Thump.........Thump.


Stop banging the table. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it.
LOOL relax, first time in front of the camera, many would be like that

Wasn't talking about that Dave. The other Dave. Dave 1.
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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2015, 11:12:44 am »
Disappointing to see that Dave & Dave are two windows fanboys.
Linux is the most used OS in the world and has much more capabilities than ms windows.

I respect a lot your knowledge and experience with electronics Dave, but, appearantly,
you don't know much about software and programming. Or at least, your view about this is very narrowed.

 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2015, 12:21:41 pm »
Disappointing to see that Dave & Dave are two windows fanboys.
Linux is the most used OS in the world and has much more capabilities than ms windows.

Fanboy?  Really?  They didn't come off as a windows fanboys.  The business of professional electronics has traditionally run on windows, and it makes sense that that's what they'd run.
 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2015, 01:00:23 pm »
Disappointing to see that Dave & Dave are two windows fanboys.

Hardly.

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Linux is the most used OS in the world and has much more capabilities than ms windows.

Yes, I run a linux server for the blog and this forum, not to mention other stuff.

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I respect a lot your knowledge and experience with electronics Dave, but, appearantly,
you don't know much about software and programming. Or at least, your view about this is very narrowed.

No, it's not, I just do not enjoy dicking around with Linux when easier tools can get the job done.
If you don't agree that linux often requires a lot of dicking around, then you must live in another world.
The amount of crap David2 has to endure to get Linux and a webcam working on the Rpi2 for the lab webcam was a classic case in point, it really was very painful. And he knows what he's doing!
 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2015, 01:33:13 pm »
No, it's not, I just do not enjoy dicking around with Linux when easier tools can get the job done.
If you don't agree that linux often requires a lot of dicking around, then you must live in another world.
The amount of crap David2 has to endure to get Linux and a webcam working on the Rpi2 for the lab webcam was a classic case in point, it really was very painful. And he knows what he's doing!

I think the problem of having to "dick around" is simply a matter of experience and what you are using (and used to) every day. For example, I find it a lot faster and easier to achieve common things in Linux than in Windows, especially the ridiculous Windows 8 - however, I am using Linux since 1994 or so and pretty much full time since 1998.

I am working with a lot of various devices at work (virtual reality - so we are interfacing with a lot of hardware) and most of it is just plain nightmare in Windows. Ever tried to make Bluetooth work reliably in Windows with something like a Wiimote or PS Move controller (commonly used as low cost VR wands)? Or the mandatory signed drivers in 64bit Windows ... So for me it is often Windows that always requires a lot of "dicking around" to get something to compile and work rather than Linux.

The only real issue with Linux is the lack of some types of software - e.g. I needed a decent 3D CAD package that allows to make mechanical assemblies in order to use it with my 3D printer, and there simply isn't one for Linux (for a reasonable price) - the "usual suspects" are ignoring everything but Windows. There isn't even a Mac package, even less a Linux one.




 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2015, 03:05:24 pm »
I think the problem of having to "dick around" is simply a matter of experience and what you are using (and used to) every day. For example, I find it a lot faster and easier to achieve common things in Linux than in Windows, especially the ridiculous Windows 8 - however, I am using Linux since 1994 or so and pretty much full time since 1998.

This is the whole point really. Linux has a huge "critical mass" and a hell of a learning curve. Sure it is massively powerful and flexible, but when you need to hack something simple together and get it up and running, you need to know a huge amount of stuff. The net result is that you start tearing your hair out (clearly not something David2 is prone to) and feel like hitting your head against a brick wall.

Linux is a Rolls Royce Olympus engine when all you need is a 1.3 litre generic lump. A fantastic piece of engineering that will get you across the Atlantic at 60,000ft and Mach 2, but 99.99% of it is just stuff getting in the way of getting you down to the shops to pick up a bottle of milk.

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2015, 03:56:41 pm »
The only real issue with Linux is the lack of some types of software - e.g. I needed a decent 3D CAD package that allows to make mechanical assemblies in order to use it with my 3D printer, and there simply isn't one for Linux

When everybody has some "essential" piece of software missing (you need CAD, Dave needs SONY Vegas, I need something else...) then you eventually have to realize why people are using Windows, n'est pas?

Linux being better on some technical level doesn't count for much when you have a job to do.
 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2015, 04:07:57 pm »
If you use Linux on a daily basis, particularly as a tinkerer, I think it's reasonable that you become adept at using it. I started in the mid 90s with Linux, but I don't use it every day, but I do develop for it both on desktop and in embedded systems on a sporadic basis, probably once a month on average, although they are usually fairly in-depth lengthy sessions.

Probably largely because don't use it all the time, each time I come back to it, something's been deprecated and my code no longer compiles and/or I can't find the right versions of this and that. I have tried to correct for that by building "gold" Linux environments in VMs and that does help, but not when you need to distribute your work where you need to be able to build a working toolchain or environment. It's like building a house on quicksand to some degree, every time I go back to something a few months later the foundations have moved.

Very frequently when I want to do something in Linux, I find myself navigating through a labyrinth of Googling several interdependent steps and other gotchas, many of which lead to blind alleys, many are out of date, but usually I do find the requisite nest of golden eggs to fix my problem. It's the hours spent on negotiating those labyrinths that make Linux so darned frustrating.

I would, on the other hand, accept that for someone who doesn't use Windows or OSX on a daily basis will suffer the same indignations to some degree or other. My only comment on that is that OSX and Windows don't seem to be built on quite the same quicksand that Linux seems to be, in that I seem to be able to rebuild code from many years ago much more easily without having to spend those hours Googling. But yes, I would think there's almost universal indignation at Windows 8 and its Modern UI even among regular users, most of whom I'd suggest go straight to Desktop anyway.
 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2015, 04:18:23 pm »
I gave up on Linux years ago. To much messing around.  I remember having to recompile the kernel to get my Gravis Ultrasound to work. It least in those days you could run it on a 3.5 inch HD floppy.
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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2015, 04:28:51 pm »
This is silly... every OS has its use, not a single one is perfect and can do everything.
Here you have the good and the bad sides of linux combined in one single picture:

 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2015, 04:43:39 pm »
Probably largely because don't use it all the time, each time I come back to it, something's been deprecated and my code no longer compiles and/or I can't find the right versions of this and that. I have tried to correct for that by building "gold" Linux environments in VMs and that does help, but not when you need to distribute your work where you need to be able to build a working toolchain or environment. It's like building a house on quicksand to some degree, every time I go back to something a few months later the foundations have moved.

This, too. Every time I try to download/use something on Linux I always need some exact version of Python or Tcl/Tk orsomething. It's never the one that's on the machine.

Eventually I gave up on Linux as a desktop machine. Save it for the routers, servers, embedded systems, etc.

 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2015, 04:53:06 pm »
I use both, where they do their best.

Me too. My router and phone are both Linux. I own a Raspberry Pi or two - which would never have happened without Linux.

My desktop machine is Windows.

Use the right tool for the right job.
 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2015, 10:04:36 pm »
Yup, I feel the same way. Linux just leads to too much messing around with the OS and not accomplishing anything then settling for half-finished software with clumsy interfaces that's just trying to copy the functionality of Windows software.

Of course there's the people who seem to have something against Windows because they've been told they're supposed to bash anything MS related or they won't be accepted as the correct type of hipster geek but that has noting to do with any type of rational thought or reason.
I've found that the one thing that actually works correctly on most people's PCs is Windows. It's almost always non-MS stuff that causes the problems but of course they just blame big bad Microsoft for everything because that's what the cool kids do.
 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2015, 10:10:45 pm »
Not this shit again.

Look at you people.

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2015, 10:35:59 pm »
 :palm: Yep, anyone adding any kind of argument to justify any use of any OS here is a bloody bastard.
 

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Re: eevBLAB #8 - Meet Dave
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2015, 11:06:18 pm »
I always need some exact version of Python or Tcl/Tk orsomething.

  sudo apt-get install the-thing-you-want

Let the package manager worry about resolving dependencies, not you.
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