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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #525 on: January 23, 2019, 07:34:08 am »
Yes therefore I bought a 1104X-E before the 5000 had launched.
Together with an siglent arbitrary gen.
The generator I still have, I´m not trusting the build in awg….
In general, "7 in 1" or "5 in 1" intruments sounds for me like the "good old" stereo compact centers from the 70s/80s.  ;)

 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #526 on: January 23, 2019, 07:43:01 am »
I know what you mean...
Main reason for the MSO was buttons for each Channel and a bigger Screen..
And of course 350MHz BW with probes..
4  new 350MHz Hameg probes are more than half the price for the MSO...

So now is the question, is the Toellner analog FG & build in MSO AWG better than purchasing an additional FY6800?

Maybe selling the TOE 7401..?

I don't want to pay several hundreds euro for a sometimes used AWG only for the "Brand" Rigol/siglent ...


 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #527 on: January 23, 2019, 08:03:34 am »
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I don't want to pay several hundreds euro for a sometimes used AWG only for the "Brand" Rigol/siglent ...

I know what you mean…. ;)

I think for sometimes in use and if you don´t Need amplitudes above 5v, the built-in awg would be enough.
And now I´m going to my siglent awg, blowing the dust away…. 8)
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #528 on: January 25, 2019, 01:33:12 pm »
Got mine today.  Not seeing any real difference in screen brightness myself.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #529 on: January 26, 2019, 08:54:40 am »
Mhh….
You compare it with another rigol…. ;)
Took my 5074 back to work for recording the displaying of PWM signals for the rigol support (actually I´m in touch with them, nearly daily - excellent support from rigol.eu by the way), I must dim the light on my desk to see everything on the screen almost bright.
But it´s not the most annoying thing.
On a friday afternoon none is here, I got my calm - And then switching on the 5074....The fan, god, only Lecroy Wavejets can "beat" it.
Rigol should allow customers the exchange to a silence one without loosing warranty…..
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #530 on: January 27, 2019, 04:17:05 pm »
You compare it with another rigol…. ;)

Either your under operating room light level or take off your sunglasses.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #531 on: January 28, 2019, 10:31:16 am »
We´re wearing sunglasses since we got new LED Lights in our department... 8)

Seriously, the display isn´t the brightest one on the market plus the limitated angle view.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #532 on: February 02, 2019, 09:49:06 am »
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Seriously, the display isn´t the brightest one on the market plus the limitated angle view.

Ideal place for it is on the desk itself, in the shelf above it appears too dark.

 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #533 on: February 02, 2019, 09:46:46 pm »
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Seriously, the display isn´t the brightest one on the market plus the limitated angle view.

Ideal place for it is on the desk itself, in the shelf above it appears too dark.

Brightness might be controlled by a single resistor. Should be hackable.

 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #534 on: February 03, 2019, 09:46:58 am »
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Seriously, the display isn´t the brightest one on the market plus the limitated angle view.

Ideal place for it is on the desk itself, in the shelf above it appears too dark.

Brightness might be controlled by a single resistor. Should be hackable.
At the cost of reduces lifetime :) but probably yes. Apearantly it runs at 9. something volt and the absolute max is 10.2 i belive
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #535 on: February 03, 2019, 10:25:23 am »
Lifetime...10 Years, 20 Years…..or less than 5.....

 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #536 on: February 06, 2019, 02:47:20 am »
Got a mail from Batronix..
My scope shipping will be delayed.. They said beginnt of february now its beginn of march....
Hopefully not with a new Firmware...
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #537 on: February 06, 2019, 05:58:33 am »
Got a mail from Batronix..
My scope shipping will be delayed.. They said beginnt of february now its beginn of march....
Hopefully not with a new Firmware...

Don't worry, the people at Rigol already know the reason why they can't manufacture them fast enough to keep up with demand.

 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #538 on: February 06, 2019, 06:11:19 am »
Plenty of 5074 in stock at Batterfly
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #539 on: February 06, 2019, 07:25:30 am »
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They said beginnt of february now its beginn of march....
Hopefully not with a new Firmware...

Official new firmware will be launched between mid/end of february.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #540 on: February 06, 2019, 01:07:39 pm »
Lifetime...10 Years, 20 Years…..or less than 5.....

<5 because they keep coming out with a better hackable unit...forcing the hand to upgrade.

..least says the guy that dumped his crow for 1052, now three Rigols later.
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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #541 on: February 08, 2019, 08:06:01 am »
Brightness might be controlled by a single resistor. Should be hackable.

Maybe it  musn´t be hacked.
Rigol have it on their to-do list(did a request About)..
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #542 on: February 13, 2019, 07:51:43 am »
Hi,

It isn´t really a bug, but today was the first time I used more than one math channel.
I took the low pass filter Funktion on three channels to filter out three phase sinewaves from pwm.
And they all got the same colour....
All 4 traces are violet - very irritating in cases described before.
Hope they´ll change it into 4 different colours.  :P
 


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