EEVblog #112 – GSM vs The Fluke 87V Multimeter

[Kiriakos-GR]

Got email from FLUKE USA before three minutes ,
about the current status , I am getting the 28II in few days ..Its Official.    

Dave if you get back to those waterfalls , call me to join you ..  hahahaha  

[EEVblog]

Ok maybe this is not the right place to put it... but I turned on youtube auto transcribe and it is hilariously political...

The auto-translate is hilarious every time!, it just doesn't know how to handle my Australian accent.

Dave.

[TheWelly888]

Ok maybe this is not the right place to put it... but I turned on youtube auto transcribe and it is hilariously political...

The auto-translate is hilarious every time!, it just doesn't know how to handle my Australian accent.

Dave.

As a deaf person, I find the auto-translate utterly pathetic!

Thank God for a certain Australian made product which helps me hear well enough to follow our Dave ( and https://www.youtube.com/user/AngryAussie Angry Aussie too! ) when I use headphones - it must be optimised for the Aussie accent!  

I do appreciate that it takes ages ( I think at least 7 time the programme length ) to prepare proper accurate subtitles for TV, DVDs and YouTube videos so what can be done?

If there is a way of transcribing speech to text that works 100% accurately with anyone in real time then will hearing aids and cochlear implants not be needed anymore?

Sorry to be off topic - I admit that the autotranscribe can be funny sometimes. I have just watched our Dave with the CC on and the captions reads like a REALLY bad news night when absolutely NOTHING went right that day!!!! 

[semaphore]

I made a quick GSM testing video for the following models. See it yourself! NOTE: I'm using iPhone4 with GSM (NO 3G) and wifi connections is on. The phone is on call for entire video. Sometime you see the blank screen, but sill on call.

- Fluke 83
- Fluke 83V
- Fluke 87
- Fluke 87III
- Fluke 87IV
- Fluke 87V
- Fluke 87V EX

[Kiriakos-GR]

I made a quick GSM testing video for the following models.

Nop , you did one video to show-of  , like many did,  many  days after of having watch the  EEVBlog video.

But unfortunately for them , they did not read all the details in the specific thread ,  
so to understand how to force the phone to operate at the max output , and so any test to be worth something !!  

True technicians does not care for video productions full of effects and such ...  

I am a sinner too , I had just buy the Corel VideoStudio Pro X3 ..  

But more than anything , I care about when I will get my replacement DMM ..

At list I am internally satisfied , that I was correct about my opinion  -->  https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=1307.msg17369#msg17369
Even if I had accept  mixed comments about it !!

And if the 88V gets tested too , this cycle closes for good.



 
 

[semaphore]

I made a quick GSM testing video for the following models.

Nop , you did one video to show-of  , like many did,  many  days after of having watch the  EEVBlog video.

Sorry, not everyone have extra time. I'm a very busy engineer. This is the best/soonest I can do. Watch it if you care!

True technicians does not care for video productions full of effects and such ...   

If you are not too old to learn new technology I would suggest you to try MAC. It took me less than 10 minutes to process this video (well 20 minutes to rendering the HD). I don't feel like talking so texts are the only way to communicate.

But more than anything , I care about when I will get my replacement DMM ..

After all you are just another one of those selfish guys that only care aout yourself 

[Kiriakos-GR]

The hands who was playing with the phone , was not more than 14 years old ,
the hands who was handling the camera , I am unable to tell .

( if you can take the sound off, it looks better ) 

[semaphore]

( if you can take the sound off, it looks better )  

I'm sure your computer has a mute button.  

[Mechatrommer]

@Kiri: relax! give him a break!
@Sema: relax! you'll get used to Kiri's style of talking!

[Kiriakos-GR]

@shafri   For once more time, you came late at the party ...  

There is no fire here..  

The fire had move out at the FLUKE labs..

[Bored@Work]

@Sema: relax! you'll get used to Kiri's style of talking!

Which he should better reconsider. It is very obvious he has no clue but is seeking attention.

He is playing classic games, like lashing out and bulling people, then putting up his hands in the air and claiming he did nothing. Or exaggerated statements to stir up shit, then putting up his hands in the air and claiming he did nothing once he got his attention and applause. This is all to establish superiority and opinion leadership.

Another classic game he is playing is to generate envy to establishing superiority. Did you notice that he suddenly started buying multimeters  and presenting them here to get attention? Just when Dave repeatedly talked about multimeters. Thats how kids try to establish superiority on the playground, showing other kids that they have greater and better toys, so they can dictate the game.

Did you notice that when someone came here discussing the repair (as opposite to just buying) of a classic Fluke, it was him who lashed out "I don't see any repair", feeling his superiority, his multimeter repair opinion leadership threatened.

And his attention seeking really works out well in this forum. There are lots of people here who are easily impressed by his stupid games. Lots of young people, beginners, looking for a guide and he is leading him by the nose. There is really no point discussing with him. It makes this forum rather unpleasant.

[TheWelly888]

We use a Fluke 87IV at work and it's a relief to know that it is immume to GSM. Not that we need to use a GSM phone in a hospital with all that electronic medical equipment inside....

[Simon]

@Sema: relax! you'll get used to Kiri's style of talking!

Which he should better reconsider. It is very obvious he has no clue but is seeking attention.

He is playing classic games, like lashing out and bulling people, then putting up his hands in the air and claiming he did nothing. Or exaggerated statements to stir up shit, then putting up his hands in the air and claiming he did nothing once he got his attention and applause. This is all to establish superiority and opinion leadership.

Another classic game he is playing is to generate envy to establishing superiority. Did you notice that he suddenly started buying multimeters  and presenting them here to get attention? Just when Dave repeatedly talked about multimeters. Thats how kids try to establish superiority on the playground, showing other kids that they have greater and better toys, so they can dictate the game.

Did you notice that when someone came here discussing the repair (as opposite to just buying) of a classic Fluke, it was him who lashed out "I don't see any repair", feeling his superiority, his multimeter repair opinion leadership threatened.

And his attention seeking really works out well in this forum. There are lots of people here who are easily impressed by his stupid games. Lots of young people, beginners, looking for a guide and he is leading him by the nose. There is really no point discussing with him. It makes this forum rather unpleasant.

I'd sort of agree but also understand how kiriakos can be misunderstood as I understand his attitude having lived in a Mediterranean country myself for 14 years but then i never liked anyone's attitude out there which is why i got away as fast as i could

[Kiriakos-GR]

The only people that I do not need around me right now,
are the cheap psychology analysts, and fortune tellers.

Still this problematic behavior are understandable ..
Some people they act weird when some one proves them wrong,
or bring down the pants of their idol ..

[Mechatrommer]

Relax Kiri. Your DMM is going to be just fine, just wait patiently until it arrives, i know how it fell. Dont worry, when it arrives, we can discuss a new way to hack the 87V or the 28II model and then, we can prove something to the world, OK? (rubbing back)

[Simon]

Trust me I know how differences in culture and language barriers (or partial barriers) can cause international fireworks, I haven't forgotten a hair raising 3 hours in a British aeroplane with almost all Italian passengers, the first problem was that the English stewards could not speak Italian the second was that the Italian passengers were so up their own asses that they decided the steward who was only trying to be friendly and liven up the atmosphere was taking the piss out of them because if he had been Italian that would been his intention but they forgot that he was English and had no idea that smiling to them would be taken as "taking the piss" and he of course was unaware of this (we were delayed and had to make a stop to drop off some technicians to help another plane). the result was that during our stop to drop the technicians off things escalated into a riot which further delayed us while some stupid Italian passenger who was going nuts in front of his wife and children at the stewards was kicked off the plane (and chances are that the one beer he had bought on the plane had gone to his head).

So in summary i sit here understanding exactly what you mean and why you have a certain "attitude" but know that others will not understand, nothing to do with cheap psychologist. On your part you could try and think before you type about how what you say will be taken by someone who has no common reference to you.

[Mechatrommer]

I haven't forgotten a hair raising 3 hours in a British aeroplane with almost all Italian passengers, bla bla bla

yea yea Simon, i heard that twice already

[Simon]

I haven't forgotten a hair raising 3 hours in a British aeroplane with almost all Italian passengers, bla bla bla

yea yea Simon, i heard that twice already

so ?

[Mechatrommer]

so ?

errrhem, dont get angry will ya?
i better be gone to bed... time to sleep. Cheers!

[Simon]

so ?

errrhem, dont get angry will ya?
i better be gone to bed... time to sleep. Cheers!

yea you go bed grrrrr   

[armandas]

The only people that I do not need around me right now,
are the cheap psychology analysts, and fortune tellers.

This forum does not revolve "around you". You may leave if you wish, we'll be fine.

[Kiriakos-GR]

The only people that I do not need around me right now,
are the cheap psychology analysts, and fortune tellers.

This forum does not revolve "around you". You may leave if you wish, we'll be fine.

If I ever need your opinion , I will ask it .. 

You have an confirmed negative behavior about attacking people , with sharp language.
Some things never change. 

If you wish to stub me in the back once more , get in the line.

[Simon]

There was this time i was on a British aeroplane with mostly Italian paseng.......  Hang on a minute  yea told you that already 

[Kiriakos-GR]

Trust me I know how differences in culture and language barriers (or partial barriers) can cause international fireworks

You are not the only one ...  I had work on a Hotel once ( summer season) as in-charge for the operation of  the Internet  café (a place which provides internet access to the public).

I have talk in person , with people from all over the world ,
and there is not so many differences , one smile and a bit of (rubbing back) as shafri  says ,
does miracles.

I got lucky, and I have meet important and educated people ...
And the second factor its the most important , to hand out with true educated people ,
this is an true gain ,  and helps the conversation , to end up as useful ..

    

[Simon]

But you are not fluent in English and have not lived in an English speaking culture, I am fluent in both languages and have spent half my life in each area.