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Offline Brumby

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #175 on: January 14, 2017, 12:34:30 pm »
Read the hidden text in my previous post.


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Re: Privacy
« Reply #176 on: January 14, 2017, 12:45:57 pm »
If you have something to say, say it. Being childish and using hidden text to score some perceived point is, well, childish. As such, I have no interest in even checking for it never mind reading it.

Until next time  :-+
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #177 on: January 14, 2017, 07:35:21 pm »
Here, it would be possible for a user of one forum to read my posts and figure out who I am. On that forum I might trust the userbase a bit more, or let slip some info about, say, my locality without identifying the place directly, and here some other snippet which would similarly be useless on its own could be matched... In fact, I do sometimes not post about stuff I learn from here to other places because it would indeed identify my source and then a perusal of writing patterns would match my separate IDs quite quickly.
If you study the history of activists/hackers who got doxxed, the following between sites and writing pattern analysis are big factors. Sometime soon if not already, a lot of that is going to get automated, and people are going to be rudely surprised when their "anonymous" online comments have sticky consequences. There won't be room for sloppy OPSEC any more.

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Well, this is the thing. Suppose I am actually TopLoser and to protect my anonymity I use a different name every other week. Are you going to be buying stuff from me? Of course not - you have no idea who I am, and just look at the hassle low posters get when trying to shift cheap stuff: "Put a shoe on your head and take a photo to prove it" indeed! The simple fact is that being anonymous is incompatible with having a reputation and, particularly on a forum like this one, you need that reputation.
It would appear that Zero-Knowledge Proofs are a way to have a reputation while being anonymous (Alice can prove that she is trusted by N parties who Bob also trusts, without Bob knowing that Alice is Alice). More generally, webs of trust make it possible to finely divide reputation among independent witnesses, in place of the subjective "name recognition" used by humans.
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #178 on: January 14, 2017, 07:47:25 pm »
DunkemHigh might like to be reminded of the Streisand effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #179 on: January 14, 2017, 10:39:47 pm »
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Sometime soon if not already

Indeed. There is progress in that field just as in any other (and there's a lot of money chasing it too).

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Zero-Knowledge Proofs

First I've heard of that. Thanks for the pointer!
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #180 on: January 14, 2017, 10:54:29 pm »
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DunkemHigh might like to be reminded of the Streisand effect

DunkenHigh thanks EEVBlog for the reference but notes that he has acknowledged same earlier in the thread and additionally pointed out that he is still posting despite that.

There seems to be an assumption that if one feels uncomfortable about this kind of thing one has to be at the extreme end of the tinfoil scale. I don't see why one can't feel uncomfortable about it, and make that known, yet still 'go with the flow'.

 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #181 on: January 14, 2017, 11:10:19 pm »
There seems to be an assumption that if one feels uncomfortable about this kind of thing one has to be at the extreme end of the tinfoil scale.
I don't see why one can't feel uncomfortable about it, and make that known, yet still 'go with the flow'.

Going with the flow means to drop it and not talk about it again after you've had your say.
You've said you don't like it, I've listened and thought about it and said why the forum is not changing to meet your desire, that's it, how about you just drop it now?
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #182 on: January 14, 2017, 11:26:09 pm »
I'll chip in for some tinfoil..........
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Offline dunkemhigh

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #183 on: January 14, 2017, 11:26:49 pm »
As I said to the other chap, I have only been replying to comments. Don't you think it would be ignorant (not to mention impolite) to ignore everything once I've had my say? Or if someone chooses to quibble about what I said, am I not allowed to clarify it or defend myself?

Of course, if it annoys you (or anyone else) you/they don't have to read it or comment to it, you know. I'm sure there's a wikipedia bon mot I could dig up if necessary :)
 

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Re: Privacy
« Reply #184 on: January 15, 2017, 02:03:23 pm »
As I said to the other chap, I have only been replying to comments. Don't you think it would be ignorant (not to mention impolite) to ignore everything once I've had my say? Or if someone chooses to quibble about what I said, am I not allowed to clarify it or defend myself?

Of course, if it annoys you (or anyone else) you/they don't have to read it or comment to it, you know. I'm sure there's a wikipedia bon mot I could dig up if necessary :)

I'm also sure there isn't a strict requirement that you must have the last word in the discussion either.
 
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