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EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« on: January 17, 2013, 10:58:08 AM »
Is a sub $50 universal programmer from ebay any good?
Dave checks out the MiniPro TL866 programmer:
http://autoelectric.cn/MiniPro/

EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review


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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2013, 02:09:57 PM »
Not bad for the price. On "Select Device" (around 14:00) I could see "Logic IC" (bottom choice) - does it test and/or autodetect 7400 and 4000 series chips?

Well, just downloaded the software to check it out and can answer my own question - it does test quite a few logic chips.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2013, 02:30:29 PM by ttp »

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2013, 02:19:40 PM »
Am I correct that this is the Gizmo I would use to read the firmware off the eprom of my digital readout that is no longer supported so I could save the data and also write a backup chip?

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2013, 02:36:31 PM »
You are correct, as long as your chip is supported by the Gizmo.

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2013, 02:41:54 PM »
Dave, .chm file is a help file for the software, I suspect one on CD is english, the downloaded version of software comes with chinese help only. Not that you need help if you used programming software in the past but could be useful sometimes.

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2013, 03:04:37 PM »
What about the ICSP header?  Did it work?

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2013, 03:09:11 PM »
Hello:

It seems the only difference between the A and CS version is the ISP, could you check that the software actually allows you to do ISP on the (much cheaper) CS version?
To do that, just select one of the microchip pics that says "(ISP)" and give it a go.
And could you please go to help-about and see what the test says, apparently they have some detection for pirated adapters...

Thank you


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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2013, 04:02:35 PM »
Merely 50$ for a nice looking 'universal' programmer. Based on your review that programmer hardware seems to be real good, layout looks solid, there are plenty of voltage/IO confirurations available and with the extra add-on modules it should read a lot of old stuff. And there even is overcurrent protection?

I wonder if I should get one of these just to read back all the old 16C84:s and Eproms of the 10-20 year old projects I still have around. After that I'd just need some disassemblers and time.

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Could someone with this MiniPro Tl866 (dave, someone else?) check that it does support the old Pic16C84. I tried to check their website, but can't find any mention.

Realated to previous, is there any particular Pic14-bit Disassembler (16c84) anyone is willing to recommend?

(edit.. even later.. How many errors can I make at one post.. I need more coffee, a lot more)
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2013, 05:34:35 PM »
I notice that Lynx in India (an active member on this forum) are listed as Agents for 'Autoelectric' on the Chinese website.

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2013, 06:59:22 PM »
Dave, the device creates a virtual serial port? What is the USB VID:PID ?

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2013, 10:59:30 PM »
I notice that Lynx in India (an active member on this forum) are listed as Agents for 'Autoelectric' on the Chinese website.


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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2013, 12:54:48 AM »
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It seems the only difference between the A and CS version is the ISP, could you check that the software actually allows you to do ISP on the (much cheaper) CS version?
Is it actually the case that the CS is cheaper ?
I'd have thought the CS stands for Chip Soccket, and the A version is a cheaper one that doesn't have the upper PCB fitted?
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2013, 01:18:48 AM »
Hi  All ,
    i have a lot of stuff to share with you people  .

To dave
  • You were talking about firmware .Well when ever there is a update of software ,Like its ver 5.80 now and you put a programmer to the new software ,it will ask you to update programmer software ,fair enough ,do you know 6 months back it supported 6750++ device only and today it does support 13071 devices .Autoelectric team needs a pat on its back for this  .
  • There was no chinglish works in the older software ,i am sending a full report to them to ammend a few words.Not only this i will tell them the following .The Main Screen Should Default To Os Installation Drive and that also in program file folder .Earlier versions did that .Firmware was firmware earlier not firewire anyways
  • The CD Has a Messup Of The Software i have no idea why .everyone please download Version 5.80 Here From My Websites File Manager -> http://www.lynxchandigarh.com/scripts/fmanager/index.php?dir=Electronic%20Instruments/&file=Autoelectric%20-%20MiniPRO%20EPROM%20BIOS%20Programmer%20Ver%205.80%20Dated%201-1-2013.rar And Device List Here -> http://www.lynxchandigarh.com/scripts/fmanager/index.php?dir=Electronic%20Instruments/&file=Autoelectric%20-%20USB%20Programmer%20Device%20Support%20List%20Ver%205.80%20Dated%201-1-2013.txt
  • Yes its a kick ass programmer that can be used in production level environments also .I sell it to companies who make stuff and sells them to big American companies who make thousands of dollars selling that to Americans  lol  .So For you xeltek and elnec are production level stuff well sure they might be but they cannot match or beat the rate of this programmer in support Versus pricing of device support .Let Me Give You a example the Super M is the base level product right they sell it for USD 595/- IMHO .In china there stuff sells much less and they say those are pirated units .Well my foot they are 100% original and actual xeltek ,They cannot regulate thier own pricing  .elnec has done that but there is a beeprog model that was cloned and people should not buy it  .13000+ library of all stuff mostely used my repairmen and people like you me  .
  • What You Missed it The Tsop Adapter Kit In This Programmer  .The Beauty is that you need a base kit like this -> http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=17016 .this has 4 Modules Dip To TSOP32 , Dip To TSOP40 [ 8 and 16 Bits ] and Dip to TSOP48 " Yes you Heard it correct ,it can easily program tsop48 ic ] .Once you have the base kit you can buy additional top kits like this TSOP32/40/48 ZIFF Adapter -> http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=17017 .For People Who Do Car Stuff [ ECU And All ] They have SOP44 And SOP56 Adapters Also  .This Function makes this programmer ultimate
  • You said its a car stuff company well no it is not it focuses on car ecu tuning and also tl866a and tl866cs programmer  .if you use a translator you can dig deeper into it  .my target people is computer repair technicians who are being screwed up by selling donkey stuff like willem eprom programmer and that stupid nano bios programmer  .
  • i made a small video in hindi language for my countrymen about this programmer ,Please have a look at it and if you people like i can make a english one too .BTW when some vendor gets such kind of a opportunity that he deals in something and thats being discussed he immediately wants to sell his goods to everyone .Well in my case i find it very difficult to import to india @ 35% customs and all .Hence i cannot sell at the pricing anything lower then i have online in my store .But i will sell it to any indian who likes to buy and take warranty locally and also my support i can spend hours with people on team viewer to explain the stuff and i never sweat . You Can find most details in my website and that too in english but but from me or anyone else i have no issues .Rates On My Website Are Plus 12.5% Indian Taxes And Rs :75/- Shipping All Across India By Bluedart [ DHL ] .If Someone Internationally Wants This i Can Offer the same Without 12.5% Tax And Free EMS Speedpost Shipping .For This Please Make a Order On My Website But Do Not Pay i will edit your order and then send you a paypal request .If any indian wants it try my service for this my 50% business is programmers these days  .
  • Some People Are Asking About Difference Of TL866A And TL866CS .The TL866A Has ISP Programming Port and a Cable With It That You Can Use For ISP Programming .I would say use cs for repair work and a for repair + embedded designing work  .
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnyc155TJBs

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2013, 01:21:32 AM »
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It seems the only difference between the A and CS version is the ISP, could you check that the software actually allows you to do ISP on the (much cheaper) CS version?
Is it actually the case that the CS is cheaper ?
I'd have thought the CS stands for Chip Soccket, and the A version is a cheaper one that doesn't have the upper PCB fitted?

Mike  ,
    You Are Wrong I Have Explained This In My Above Post Please 
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2013, 01:33:15 AM »
I sure wish it supported the AM27S291.  :(

I can't see spending the big bucks for a Xeltek SuperPro 5000E just for this one application.


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