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EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« on: April 07, 2018, 08:56:34 am »
Repairing a KRK Rokit 6 powered near field studio monitor speaker.
You won't believe what caused the fault!

 
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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2018, 12:21:53 pm »
Over the years, there have been a couple of repairs where I looked upon some gunk with suspicion - but I never found a case where it had actually contributed to the problem.  I'm glad somebody did!!

Good job.  :-+
 

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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2018, 12:36:38 pm »
It has been in the repair FAQ for a while.
http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/audiofaq.htm#audwgmtg
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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2018, 01:24:23 pm »
To put some people at ease, I tore down my KRK V8 studio monitor which is their flagship and no sign of the black gunk now but clear epoxy... Still crap chinese capacitors though. Think I am going to rip them all out and put some decent quality stuff in as they are a well known failure mode for KRK monitors. Seriously do no companies take pride in their gear anymore... penny pinching on caps on flagship gear.
 
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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2018, 06:09:09 pm »
Fault fixed, I wonder if the reason was that it had got wet at some point or if the gunk was absorbing moisture from the air. With all that corrosion I am not sure I would trust it long term, especially with a new tweeter just waiting for the fault to recur. Maybe it would be better to replace the power amplifier completely, or just convert it to a passive speaker.
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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2018, 11:05:05 pm »
Hi Dave,

Greetings from a Brit in Belgium!

Thanks for this - I have been a long time silent viewer and learnt many things from you which bravely made me fix my mums electric shower and a whole host of other stuff. I recently got the Hakko FX-888D on your recommendation and am very happy with it. Gush over!

I found this vid really interesting because I am a bit of a computer geek, amateur composer and owner of a pair of KRK Rockit GII 5's for 7 years.

I've not had a problem in all that time (well, I did get a nasty hum once, but it turned out to be a dodgy power pack delivered with a Korean monitor import) and am very happy with  - I found the black gunk you found to be worryingly "moist" maybe humidity or liquid?

Anyhoo, to address a couple of things you talked about, The main reason I bought monitors was for composing, mixing and mastering and specifically the "balanced audio" part (Would be great if you could do a vid on balanced vs unbalanced audio!). Most peeps buying monitors will probably be eyeing up an external (or internal) Audio interface, which in part answers your "I prefer mine with the volume knob on"

Mine is a Roland Rubix 22, which you can see in the images attached.

Keep up the awesome work,

Nicky.




 

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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2018, 11:46:04 pm »
specifically the "balanced audio" part (Would be great if you could do a vid on balanced vs unbalanced audio!).

Ah yes.  The difference between Pro Audio and the world of Audiofoolery.  £20 for a XLR cable and thinking is it bloody expensive and those who pay 200~2000 for their magic Phono/RCA cable and are delighted with the money well spent and subsequent sound improvement.

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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2018, 11:47:39 pm »
Thanks!

This fixed my two week ongoing project! The timing of this I can't believe!


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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2018, 10:24:59 am »
There's a good reason for the housing around the outside of the RCA jack; it is there to prevent air leaks (just like the sealant around the other connectors.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2018, 11:09:33 am »
Dave, thank you for this video! I actually have a pair of the Rokit 6's in my wardrobe awaiting repair. Both have exactly the same symptom. They are actually half-decent speakers but they aren't exactly professional grade either.

I've also shot off an e-mail to KRK Systems / Gibson Customer Service regarding this issue. It's a widespread problem for anyone with these speakers. I'd say it would definitely be considered a "major failure" under Australian consumer law and despite the manufacturer's warranty having long run out, I think anyone in Australia with these speakers would be entitled to their money back or at the very least a replacement. Mine lasted about 12-18 months before they started exhibiting this issue. I wouldn't consider that to be "reasonably durable", would you?

I've also downloaded a copy of Dave's video in case KRK have any ideas to try and get the video taken down.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2018, 11:19:09 am by Halcyon »
 

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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2018, 03:56:39 pm »
Dave, thank you for this video! I actually have a pair of the Rokit 6's in my wardrobe awaiting repair. Both have exactly the same symptom. They are actually half-decent speakers but they aren't exactly professional grade either.

I've also shot off an e-mail to KRK Systems / Gibson Customer Service regarding this issue. It's a widespread problem for anyone with these speakers. I'd say it would definitely be considered a "major failure" under Australian consumer law and despite the manufacturer's warranty having long run out, I think anyone in Australia with these speakers would be entitled to their money back or at the very least a replacement. Mine lasted about 12-18 months before they started exhibiting this issue. I wouldn't consider that to be "reasonably durable", would you?

I've also downloaded a copy of Dave's video in case KRK have any ideas to try and get the video taken down.

It's very likely to be a capacitor issue also, very common on the Rokit series, I agree it completely unacceptable. My KRK V8 monitors cost $1700-$1800 and still they are using absolute garbage capacitors. It's a shame because other than the caps, the PCB layout is clean and well constructed at 17kg a piece.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2018, 04:59:24 pm »
BTW, is it an OK practice to spread goop also on top of the capacitors (i.e. on the pressure valves)?
 

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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2018, 12:02:12 am »
Many years ago I used some acrylic sealant on 4 tags of a AC mains filter to stop me touching exposed 240 VAC.
I found out that conducted, as far as I can remember the mains was cooking the acrylic.

Also a lot of silicone sealants contain acetic acid which can corrode electronic circuits, metals and react
with alkaline based substances. 

 
 

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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2018, 12:48:59 am »
The same happens to some KEF subwoofers. 
 

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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2018, 06:28:58 am »
The capacitors in these things also go bad. In my KRK VXT4 the main caps rattled like maracas when shaken.

Also, indeed the gunk became conductive.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2018, 08:41:09 am »
ffcossag does audio repairs and sees this a lot: http://www.youtube.com/user/FFcossag

It's very likely to be a capacitor issue also, very common on the Rokit series, I agree it completely unacceptable. My KRK V8 monitors cost $1700-$1800 and still they are using absolute garbage capacitors. It's a shame because other than the caps, the PCB layout is clean and well constructed at 17kg a piece.

Thats inexcusable for a $2k USD product to use cheap caps... Speakers also have a very high margin, so its not like they aren't making much profit.
One problem is without their speakers failing, there is really very little reason to buy a new one. Its not like the performance of this years speaker is any better than ones you can get 10 or 20 years ago.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2018, 04:16:20 am »
Black gunk of death in my 2 years old gen 3 krk rokit 5 :( Also tons of transparent silicone like gunk, epoxy?

https://imgur.com/a/sbWZTbj
 

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Re: EEVblog #1072 - KRK Rokit 6 Studio Monitor Speaker Repair
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2018, 07:20:23 pm »
Black gunk of death in my 2 years old gen 3 krk rokit 5 :( Also tons of transparent silicone like gunk, epoxy?

https://imgur.com/a/sbWZTbj
Also, cheap phenolic PCB for the PSU board?
 


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