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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1450 on: December 31, 2018, 04:54:24 pm »
I have a problem with my TL866 A.
I do not read the devices.
If I try to update the software with the new version 6.85, when I run the patch (with the resistor on pin 35 as shown) I go into boot mode, but then tells me it can not flash.
If I run the self check test from the program, everything is OK, but in the GND test I get an error in No. 25
What can you depend on?
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1451 on: December 31, 2018, 05:33:42 pm »
These are some images of the mistakes I have

 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1452 on: January 01, 2019, 12:11:27 am »
If I run the self check test from the program, everything is OK, but in the GND test I get an error in No. 25
What can you depend on?

Read this Msg from radioman:
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-411-minipro-tl866-universal-programmer-review/msg1750487/#msg1750487

This solves your Problem.
It seems you have a short in the GND20 Pin.

Regards
« Last Edit: January 01, 2019, 12:13:15 am by james38 »
 
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1453 on: January 01, 2019, 09:00:53 pm »
Thanks James38, I revovd and checked Q7, it was good, the problem was the resistance R26 that was open.
Now the error No. 25 no longer appears, unfortunately if I read an eeprom I always see the values shown in the figure "read error", and if I write it remains the problem that I had even before you see file "write error".
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1454 on: January 02, 2019, 03:29:45 am »
Try another 24C02, or 24XX .
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1455 on: January 02, 2019, 04:48:27 pm »
Try another 24C02, or 24XX .

I saw that even without any eeprom if I make a reading the programmer always shows me the same data.
The thing is very strange
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1456 on: January 02, 2019, 07:22:51 pm »
After saving my original TL866A (thank you radioman) and a 100 ohm resistor (thank you Georg Simon), now using the programmer again, I was remembered of some lacks and misshaped concepts of the enclosed software.

(points may only be valid for various Atmel AVR-chips)

1. 'device/erase' or 'erase before' erases flash and sets fuses to their default value
   this is confusing non standard behavior
   erasing should only erase the flash   

2. in the 'chip program' dialog you have to check 'Con.FUSE Bit'* for programming the flash
   otherwise fuses are set to their default value
   this is a consequence of point 1.

3. programming out of the buffer
   every software change forces to reload the buffer manually
   costs a lot of (boring) clicks when developing and testing
   a function to program right from a hex or bin file would be appreciated

4. the 'chip program' dialog opens with all options checked when a project is loaded
   seems like an error, should be fixed
   (with no project loaded this dialog remembers options)


* 'Con.FUSE Bit' this label seems to say it ;)


(a copy of this post was sent to autoelectric.cn)
« Last Edit: January 03, 2019, 12:57:45 am by qrti »
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1457 on: January 03, 2019, 08:55:22 pm »
Hello,

I need to copy a PIC16C54(C), i'm struggling with it and i don't have any experience with PIC programing.

Can anyone please check if it can be copied to a new one?

 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1458 on: January 04, 2019, 06:55:34 pm »
I finally managed to solve the problem of not reading and writing EEPROM.
I have re-programmed the TL866 by performing the indicated procedure and using the PICKIT2 but nothing to do.
After several attempts, I remembered a post in which another user said he had problems with his TL866 and for this he had returned to use version 6.71 of the program.
I reloaded the 6.71 and the programmer resumed working properly by reading and writing the EEPROM correctly.
I hope this can be useful for other users
 
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1459 on: January 05, 2019, 07:14:08 am »
hello all
i have some problem like many people here ... i have a minipro tl866cs and i convert here before to tl866a to suport many models
but today i have a problem when i follow method radioman



what mean this pic !!!!
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1460 on: January 05, 2019, 08:55:10 am »
I dont know exactly what you want to know?

This Pic shows the advantage section if you want to make your Tl866CS to an A version or vicy versa. (Bootloader section)
when you have load the Firmware dumper.

You can further more change the device code and the serial number. (dont use it unless you have problems with serialnumber)
Only use clone serialnumber if there are zerofilled.
It also tells you that at this momet if somethings goes wrong you can brick your device (power lost or someting else).

Normaly you will use only the Write Button in the Bootloader Section.
All the others are additional methods that should only be used in some situations.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2019, 01:46:30 am by james38 »
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1461 on: January 05, 2019, 11:16:07 am »
The problem isnwhen i update my device to 6.8xx i see messgae serial pirate and i cant use it
So how i can fix serial and convert to tl688a safety if i cn
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1462 on: January 05, 2019, 01:44:59 pm »
Be sure you have the latest firmware updater from radioman.
This one will generate compliant serial numbers.
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-411-minipro-tl866-universal-programmer-review/msg1716014/#msg1716014

When you are in the advanced section go to edit.
A new window comes up with two buttons called random.
Use the random button under serial and generate a new one.

Hope it helps


« Last Edit: January 05, 2019, 01:47:54 pm by james38 »
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1463 on: January 05, 2019, 08:45:00 pm »
after i follow this steps no serial too :



i need latest firmware updater to donload it because i ca
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1464 on: January 06, 2019, 02:03:33 am »
It seems something you're doing wrong here.

The Steps from radioman in Post 1257 are the following:
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-411-minipro-tl866-universal-programmer-review/msg1704092/#msg1704092

> 1. Browse for update.dat file (any version is good including the new 6.80, 6.81 and 6.82)
> 2.Select the firmware dumper and click reflash.
> 3.After reflash click the advanced button
> 4.Now pay attention: if the copy protection checkbox is unchecked please check this and click write button.
> If the copy protection checkbox is checked leave it alone.
> This is important if you leave the copy protect bit unchecked then the new firmware will disable the bootmode, so beware!
> 5.Serial number and device code section.
Just click the write button in the serial number section. This will rewrite the same serial with the correct checksum.
>  This was a flaw in my reencrypted serial. A single byte checksum was wrong and the autoelectric discovered this after five years! good. I like this.
> 6.Close the advanced window, check the TL866A firmware and click reflash again.
> Now the new firmware is ready.

In Step 5 you must generate a new Serial. Have a look on the device code. This must be also filled. If not generate a new one too.
Dont forget to click the Write button under this section! If you dont do this no new serial will be written to the programmer.
I know there are several write buttons but the only important Button is the Write button under the Serial number and device code section.

When you still have no results please tell us exactly what you do so we can see where the mistake is.
 
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1465 on: January 06, 2019, 03:03:02 am »
i try that but some problem
now i am in 6.71 firmware and it is work like that :



but if i try to update to 6.8xx i see the problelm so what i do :

1- run tl866.exe  octobre 2015 version

2- chose firmware dumper and file update.date for 6.82 version

3- click reflash 4- and after message ok 5- click tl866a firmware 6- after message ok i run minipro exe and the message error the serial pirate bla bla bla

so what is problem friends ....
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1466 on: January 06, 2019, 03:47:21 am »
1- run tl866.exe  octobre 2015 version

so what is problem friends ....

I believe you are running an outdated version of the firmware updater (tl866.exe).

The original tl866.exe did nor generate correct serial numbers, and Autoelectric (the manufacturer of the TL866) did eventually notice that and check for the correct serial number format. Radioman has posted a new updater here:

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-411-minipro-tl866-universal-programmer-review/msg1713203/#msg1713203

EDIT: It seems that the post which james38 aready linked to above contains the same (newer) tl866.exe. How did you end up with the 2015 version? Please be sure to follow the provided instructions carefully.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2019, 03:50:36 am by ebastler »
 
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1467 on: January 06, 2019, 04:09:10 am »
i cant download from this lien :

 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1468 on: January 06, 2019, 04:13:53 am »
i cant download from this lien :

There is a download button on the top right of the window.
Keyboard error: Press F1 to continue.
 
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1469 on: January 06, 2019, 04:38:14 am »
Its a drop down Button as PaoBPZ said.
Use then "direct download".

You will then get a Zip-File for download.
When you start tl866.exe pay attention that the title of the windowbox has the Version V2.5.
As far as I know this was the latest version from radioman.
Only this version works to generate compliant serial numbers.
 
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1470 on: January 06, 2019, 05:40:08 am »
thanks friends so the problem in version updater  ...

now i fix 6.8xx problem with version 2.5 updater ....

now i run 6.82 and all thing work perfectly but serial like that  '?!!' is normaly ???



and can i update to version 6.85 safety now ??

thanks more time friends
« Last Edit: January 06, 2019, 05:45:20 am by djomano »
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1471 on: January 06, 2019, 07:51:54 am »
What do you mean with serial ?!!
There should be only to see valid alphanumeric numbers (A-Z 0-9) not signs like ?!!

When you start the tl866 what do you see on the botom section.

You shoud see something like this (firmware is for V6.85):

Device version: TL866CS
Device status: Normal working mode.
Device code: 93165131
Serial number: E3513ADD389179C142BED399
Firmware version: 3.2.86

What do you see under "Device code" and "Serial number"?
When you go to Firmware Section (click the Tab -> Firmware) and then press "Clone" what do you see here?
Its not normal but it seems you dont generated a new Serial number isn't it?
As you have proceeded the flash process do you registered that the fields in device code and serialnumer are filled with valid values?
If not you now have a correct checksum but with an serialnumber wich contains confused signs somehow.

It woulde be very helpfull for us when you could tell us step by step what you have done.
In this case i dont know why you have not a valid number there.
Maybe you missed a step somewhere.
If you dont generate a new serial number the updater takes the old one. When this one is garbage you have also a garbage number.

The V6.85 is ok. I have them running without problems.

 
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1472 on: January 06, 2019, 11:34:54 am »
I dont see any alphanumeric in serial number just this symbols : ?!!

Like picture i post here before this is it



And if any one can creer a video tutorial for this steps to help us ?
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1473 on: January 06, 2019, 01:35:29 pm »
I mean the tl866.exe you have downloaded (Firmwareupdater v2.5).
Not the Programming Software.

And please answer the questions I wrote.
Here the questions again:

1.) What do you see under "Device code" and "Serial number"?
2.) When you go to Firmware Section (click the Tab -> Firmware) and then press "Clone" what do you see here?
3.) As you have proceeded the flash process do you registered that the fields in device code and serialnumer are filled with valid values?

Its not normal but it seems you dont generated a new Serial number isn't it?
If not you now have a correct checksum but with an serialnumber wich contains confused signs somehow.

It woulde be very helpfull for us when you could tell us step by step what you have done.
In this case i dont know why you have not a valid number there.
Maybe you missed a step somewhere.

If you don't generate a new serial number the updater takes the old one.
When this one is garbage you have also a garbage number.

Please try again the flash process to change the serial number an then pay attention if device code and serial number is shown.
If NOT  or you see other values than alphanumeric in this case GENERATE NEW ONE with the Random button.
 
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1474 on: January 06, 2019, 11:50:29 pm »
no serial number friend just this

 


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