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EEVblog #424 - $3M Agilent Portable Calibration Lab Tour
« on: February 14, 2013, 01:00:34 pm »
A tour of Agilent Australia's new VOSCAL (Volume On-Site Calibration) portable NATA accredited calibration lab in a customised expandable shipping container, with Metrologist Peter Daly
The gear alone inside is worth a cool $3M.

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Re: EEVblog #424 - $3M Agilent Portable Calibration Lab Tour
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2013, 01:08:35 pm »
The gear alone inside is worth a cool $3M.

Worth $3M or costs $3M? I bet you couldn't sell it for $3M after you'd bought it  ;)
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Re: EEVblog #424 - $3M Agilent Portable Calibration Lab Tour
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2013, 01:37:30 pm »
Quite amazed to see a "wooden" boxed stuffs in that room full of advanced stuffs.
 

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Re: EEVblog #424 - $3M Agilent Portable Calibration Lab Tour
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2013, 09:23:04 pm »
Quite amazed to see a "wooden" boxed stuffs in that room full of advanced stuffs.
I think it's pretty common for kits of 'little fiddly bits' to come in nice wooden boxes. They aren't cheap, and the bits are easy to misplace or damage if they don't have a proper home.

e.g. the $14,000 Agilent 85052C
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Re: EEVblog #424 - $3M Agilent Portable Calibration Lab Tour
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2013, 12:01:16 am »
Excellent :-+

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Re: EEVblog #424 - $3M Agilent Portable Calibration Lab Tour
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2013, 12:24:30 am »
I think it's pretty common for kits of 'little fiddly bits' to come in nice wooden boxes. They aren't cheap, and the bits are easy to misplace or damage if they don't have a proper home.
e.g. the $14,000 Agilent 85052C

Interestingly, the calibration on those is done by dimensional and surface measurement, not electrical, as it's the physical dimensions which determine the performance with these connectors.

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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2013, 01:03:31 am »
Kinda funny to see inbetween all the ultra high end equipment like arbitrary function generators ( i saw 33120. 33250) that they have to hang on to long obsolete generators like an 8112a pulse and a 3325b function generator. There must be something about those machines that is unmatched.

The gps receiver they use is the same in had in europe. You can but those off ebay for about 500$ these days. Gps disciplined 10mhz oven.

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Re: EEVblog #424 - $3M Agilent Portable Calibration Lab Tour
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2013, 02:13:27 am »
Can someone give some specific examples of what sort of facilities use this service?
 

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Re: EEVblog #424 - $3M Agilent Portable Calibration Lab Tour
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2013, 02:48:29 am »
Military service units, Metro service centres and large service organisations at a first guess. Places that have to work to a standard, and where they need a traceable chain for quality control. Large manufacturers as well, not a good idea to make xx million widgets and have to recall and rework them because a $100 multimeter was out of calibration and you adjusted the 5V rail to 11v during production using it.
 

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Re: EEVblog #424 - $3M Agilent Portable Calibration Lab Tour
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2013, 03:13:07 am »
Magnificent. most interesting and informative video. A whole world hidden in a container.
Peter Daly fellow sure got his mind full of nice stuff.

Heck i want a container like that. Detached from HOME and no family members allowed.
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2013, 03:34:41 am »
Wow.  A nice first by Dave for anything I can recall on the net, a full tour of a A#1 lab.  If there was equipment porn, this would be the centerfold!  :-+ :-+ :-+
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2013, 04:31:48 am »
After watching this I was doing some google'n and found some great reading in:

NIST HANDBOOK 150-28 Calibration Laboratories Technical Guide for Electromagnetic DC Low Frequency Measurements
http://www.nist.gov/nvlap/upload/hb150-2a-1.pdf

If you jump to handbook page 19 (section 2.3)  it has some great info on Direct voltage and also references for further reading.
 

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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2013, 04:41:57 am »
This is like a "free candy van" for EEs.   ^-^
 

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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2013, 05:46:44 am »
This container is pretty cool. Here in the US they use a truck with a fixed cabin mounted on it. When i was still in europe they had the VOSCAL setup in huge flightcrates. They would drop em of on friday. we'd roll em in the lab, take the front and back lids of and power em up over the weekend so they would be 'hot' for at least 48 hours. Then their techs would come in (typically 2 people)  and do the cal run. Took em 2 to 3 weeks t do all stuff we had.

they used a special piece of software made by HP themselves that was running on HP150 computers. ( kinda an early PC , it ran DOS but ws not fully compatible with a normal PC, it did have a touchscreen ! . they ran Rocky Mountain Basic and drove everything through GPIB )
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2013, 08:09:29 am »
Quite amazed to see a "wooden" boxed stuffs in that room full of advanced stuffs.

And 3.5" Floppy Disk Drives...
 

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Re: EEVblog #424 - $3M Agilent Portable Calibration Lab Tour
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2013, 09:05:55 am »
Can someone give some specific examples of what sort of facilities use this service?

I worked at Thomson Marconi Sonar, and we were actually the very first customer to request the old calibration container back in the late 90's.
We had countless very expensive machines used in "production" that had to get calibrated. And of course the military take their calibration very seriously.
I use quote marks for production, because production for us could be anywhere from one $20M sonar system unit a year to five $40K oil survey streamers per day.
Sending your gear away for cal meant weeks of down time. With this, I could unbolt the gear from the test rack, walk down the back of the building, and have it calibrated in a few hours. If I was lucky, that would happen during lunch break.

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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2013, 09:57:23 pm »
I have to say i sort of enjoyed this video. Was interesting to see real lab for calibrations and that being stuffed in shipping container... Now i only wonder whats their hourly charge as in how much is it worth before they actually pack up and ship that thing in your factory to do calibrations... And is staff included or do you have to supply your own equipment blowers for it  ;)
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Re: EEVblog #424 - $3M Agilent Portable Calibration Lab Tour
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2013, 05:27:24 am »
There was a mention of $35k as a minimum charge, plus shipping there and back, plus staff costs for time and probably a per day charge ( from on transit till back on base) along with a per item charge for the paperwork and the certifications. Say $100k per 2 week stay would be about right.
 

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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2013, 08:00:55 am »
Between all their equipment and accessoires, I didn't see the ĀµCurrent?
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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2013, 08:20:15 am »
My ideal holyday, rent it for a week and camp in it. ( in my backyard off cause ;-) )
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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2013, 03:02:34 pm »
Thanks for the TARDIS references. Now I'm hooked up with Doctor Who  :palm:
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2013, 11:09:56 am »
Thanks for the TARDIS references. Now I'm hooked up with Doctor Who  :palm:

They really need to hook up a switch to trigger the TARDIS sound effect every time the door is closed.
 

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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2013, 12:08:00 am »
it's amazing.... a portable lab into a shipping container...
 

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Re: EEVblog #424 - $3M Agilent Portable Calibration Lab Tour
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2013, 12:59:17 am »
Thats a beautiful lab.  It looks like knobs are really a thing of the past.  Most of the few I see there just step you through an on-screen menu.  I guess it's not much different than turning a waffer switch.  I'm going to miss them though.

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Re: EEVblog #424 - $3M Agilent Portable Calibration Lab Tour
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2013, 03:01:02 pm »
I would gladly pay for Ballmer Peak calibration if they can do it  :-+.
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