EEVblog #751 - How To Debunk A Product (The Batteriser)

[Halcyon]

I'm convinced that I'm not going to get into trouble off the Roohparvar's because they seem to be pissing all the backers' money up the wall on meaningless awards and dinners, so here goes...

It seems to me, good old Bob there (click to enlarge), is talking through his teeth... perhaps something like "Psst...Do you think those backers are onto us yet?" with Frankie replying "Just shut up and smile, those morons don't suspect a thing!"

Or maybe... Bob: "What's our make-believe product called again?", Frankie: "Shhh... We're taking the money and we're doing a runner!"

I'm no good at drawing but I'm pretty sure someone could make a comic book based on those two comedians.

Also, no one told poor Bob that you generally don't wear a black shirt and terrible tie to a black-tie event, although I suspect that because that was a bullshit nonsense event "Excellence in Best Practices Awards Gala" that it was OK to let that one slide. Even old-mate down the end there seems to be a bit over it and decided to catch a little shut-eye.

[Godzil]

Also, no one told poor Bob that you generally don't wear a black shirt and terrible tie to a black-tie event, although I suspect that because that was a bullshit nonsense event "Excellence in Best Practices Awards Gala" that it was OK to let that one slide. Even old-mate down the end there seems to be a bit over it and decided to catch a little shut-eye.

That may explain why they put him in the middle, because if he were to be on a side the photo balance would have been weird, all of that because of stupid shirt and tie

[Delta]

"Excellence in Best Practices Awards" - these bullshit awards sound just like Homer Simpon's "Outstanding achievement in the field of excellence award".

[EEVblog]

Shill or just true believer?

[g.lewarne]

Shill or just true believer?

Misguided true believer with no understanding on what has been going on

[Delta]

Paid shill, obviously.

No real person gets that passionate about a $10 pack of widgets...

[Delta]

EDIT-----------

Removed to avoid accusing an innocent weirdo of supporting the BatterBros...

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[Brumby]

Paid shill, obviously.

No real person gets that passionate about a $10 pack of widgets...

Not necessarily.  There are several groups of people that would....

* True believers
* Conspiracy theorists
* Those who champion causes on principle

[EEVblog]

Although looking at Spence's own campaigns, one could relate to Batteroo's backers and the other to the BatterBros themselves! 

That seems to be a different person. The linked person is:
https://www.indiegogo.com/individuals/3119675/campaigns

[Delta]

Although looking at Spence's own campaigns, one could relate to Batteroo's backers and the other to the BatterBros themselves! 

That seems to be a different person. The linked person is:
https://www.indiegogo.com/individuals/3119675/campaigns

My mistake, sorry!  I've removed my scandalous insinuation! 

[Cerebus]

Paid shill, obviously.

No real person gets that passionate about a $10 pack of widgets...

Not necessarily.  There are several groups of people that would....

* True believers
* Conspiracy theorists
* Those who champion causes on principle

* Me, when presented with a $10 bar of chocolate. 

[Fungus]

They could make all doubts go away just by posting a couple of photos of the production line, maybe a box of Batterisers.

[Neilm]

They could make all doubts go away just by posting a couple of photos of the production line, maybe a box of Batterisers.

They could send a couple to Dave. if they did everything they claimed it would a very interesting video. Almost as interesting as if it didn't

[Cyberdragon]

Dear Batteroo,

Allow me to provide the instructions for your Batterizer product line. They are as follows...

WARNING: Batterizer must be operated in a well vented and non-flammable area!

1. Solder a piece of at least 20 gauge wire to the negative terminal of the Batterizer
2. Solder the other end to the positive output terminal of the Batterizer
3. Install lithium cell of appropriate type
4. You run! You run so far away!
5. will now be destroyed

Voltamort rules!

EDIT: up next "The Battle of Batteroo: the Skit" get your ready

[drussell]

Well, the last week of September is upon us and surprise, surprise...  Déjà vu!...

Batteroo are quickly running out of time to get those all-important stocking-stuffer gifts out to the public for the 2015 2016 Christmas season....

[Fungus]

They've told so many lies now that it's obvious they're never going to ship anything.

[Wytnucls]

Executive Chairman of the Board of Directors
Batteroo Corporation
July 2012 – Present (4 years 3 months)San Francisco Bay Area
I co-founded a new startup called Batteroo that has innovated in the area of Battery management. Batteriser, the company's current product is a micro-thin stainless sleeve that goes over a primary battery and can increase the life of the battery significantly, up to 8X.

There's nothing like self-delusion to embellish your own profile on LinkedIn.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankie-roohparvar-b4a6b45

[EEVblog]

They could send a couple to Dave. if they did everything they claimed it would a very interesting video. Almost as interesting as if it didn't

And that's the thing. Instead of sending out the media kits as they promised, even the 500mA version they claimed they had ready to go, I and/or other could have tested them and verified their claims, and we would have been respectful of any known current limits. Instead they chose the path of their silly response videos, their laughable updates, and slander in a national newspaper claiming I was paid by "big battery".
Engineers are pretty fair people, they would have tested it extensively and present the data to the public. Even if it got a x4 increase in a bunch of product we would have been singing it's praises from the rooftops. Heck, even double battery life on a bunch of general products would have impressed us.
Of course Batteroo also promised to publish the testing data they had but never did.

So obviously they have absolutely no faith in the claims of their product and they know the game is up if they ship a single unit. Because once a single unit makes it's way into the wild it will end up in mine or others hands who are willing to test it. They have created this gigantic profile for themselves and their claims and they ca't think of a way to save face now.

[samgab]

They could send a couple to Dave. if they did everything they claimed it would a very interesting video. Almost as interesting as if it didn't

And that's the thing. Instead of sending out the media kits as they promised, even the 500mA version they claimed they had ready to go, I and/or other could have tested them and verified their claims, and we would have been respectful of any known current limits. Instead they chose the path of their silly response videos, their laughable updates, and slander in a national newspaper claiming I was paid by "big battery".
Engineers are pretty fair people, they would have tested it extensively and present the data to the public. Even if it got a x4 increase in a bunch of product we would have been singing it's praises from the rooftops. Heck, even double battery life on a bunch of general products would have impressed us.
Of course Batteroo also promised to publish the testing data they had but never did.

So obviously they have absolutely no faith in the claims of their product and they know the game is up if they ship a single unit. Because once a single unit makes it's way into the wild it will end up in mine or others hands who are willing to test it. They have created this gigantic profile for themselves and their claims and they ca't think of a way to save face now.

Call me an optimist, but I'm still waiting for the day I see a new Dave--eevblog-video containing extensive tests and results of a released Batteroo product. Bad, slightly bad, or totally useless; whatever the case, it'll make for an entertaining video

[Brumby]

Call me an optimist, but I'm still waiting for the day I see a new Dave--eevblog-video containing extensive tests and results of a released Batteroo product. Bad, slightly bad, or totally useless; whatever the case, it'll make for an entertaining video

Optimist.

.... but I wish you all the best.

[rrinker]

 I do think you will be waiting a loooooooooong time. It seems that their current strategy is to lie low and hope that like most things, everyone will forget all about them ever existing after a few months. If it's not in the news today, it didn't happen. This short attention span of the masses is why we have the same boondoggles over and over again - "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it" does not apply to just big events.

[Cerebus]

... and slander libel in a national newspaper ...

There, fixed that for you.

But seriously. I'd just like it to reach a conclusion sometime soon. It's reached the bloody boring stage. It's like watching a TV series that goes seriously downhill about halfway through the season. You've watched it so far, so you want to know how it ends, but it's painful to sit through the remaining episodes, but you can't skip them in case you miss some plot twist that's vital to understanding the end.

So, Batter-wantever-you're-called this month; if you're listening please either:

• Ship the bloody things ,or
• File for bankrupcy, or
• Get arrested for fraud, or
• Pack it in and admit the whole thing has been a massive series of blunders mixed with hubris, or
• Almost anything else that isn't sitting around on your collective arses making more excuses.

[EEVblog]

Well, it's the end of September tomorrow and no update or promised shipped product 

Restless backers again:

[EEVblog]

... and slander libel in a national newspaper ...

There, fixed that for you.

Actually I do believe it's slander, because it wasn't Bob printing the words (which would be libel), the newspaper was just quoting a phone interview with him.
But meh, either way he was being a real duche.

[niekvs]

In Europe, googling for "Bob Roohparvar" shows a few results, and then the following:

"Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe. Learn more"
https://www.google.nl/policies/faq/

Apparently he used the "right to be forgotten". I wonder why