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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #75 on: November 25, 2015, 06:56:15 am »
I reckon that board was a blank PCB they had laying around and was never intended for this use - as a substitute for strip-board.
I also agree that whoever put it together did not have a background in electronics assembly, a software guy probably fits the picture here. Or how about an EE with no soldering skills, there are lots of them around.
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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #76 on: November 25, 2015, 08:01:12 am »
If this were a proof of concept item to hand around, I wouldn't be as critical as Dave. I've bodged together things that were pretty ugly inside just to get to get feedback on layout and functionality.

I prototype with materials I have on hand. Legos, cardboard, paper maché, clay, urethane, plex, aluminium, whatever. It's all good when I want to get an idea off off my computer (wetware and hardware) and into my hands to play with. I just did a project with a friend with two layouts and had mine done before his MakerBot had half of his case "printed". My second iteration will be done on a proper stereo lithography machine in 2 days, in a material that is close to what will be used to produce the finished product.

If I were at a point where I was making PCB's, they'd certainly have some thought put into them and would have been produced at a proper PCB company. I made my last DIY PCB about 25 years ago. The price is so cheap these days that it isn't worth messing with photo-resist and ferric chloride. A perf board construction would have looked better than what was pulled out.

There is no excuse for delivering a product that looks as cheesy as that tablet. Me thinks the software guy with just enough knowledge of hardware built that POS. Seen that many times before.

 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #77 on: November 25, 2015, 11:37:22 am »
Did this video get linked somewhere?
100k views in a few days!  :o
 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #78 on: November 25, 2015, 11:46:30 am »
Did this video get linked somewhere?
100k views in a few days!  :o

That makes sense...  The title alone has probably made it come up under all sorts of interesting queries!

A new EEVblog hit vdeo! :)
 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #79 on: November 25, 2015, 11:48:50 am »
I think that it was a good choice of title on your part, if you Google "worst tablet" your video is up near the top on my search anyway. Leading up to Christmas I expect that people are doing their homework on what not to buy.

Thats my observation anyhow.
 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #80 on: November 25, 2015, 01:05:36 pm »
It made two places on Reddit, but I don't think they are responsible for all the extra views.
 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #81 on: November 25, 2015, 02:10:41 pm »
And I thought that the iPod I bodged over the weekend was bad enough!  :-DD
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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #82 on: November 25, 2015, 04:27:26 pm »
Cheers,

Alex, the Sender of the Goodlike Tablet Computer here from Germany.
I assure you, that this thing is no fake, not revised in any way, it was made by Esinomed. But: Probably there were no 11 or more of that, its kind of a prototype.

But what has bitten the Employe that made the Power Supply, i don't know  :wtf: When i have no time, i take a breadboard and solder it onto there, why would you ever do that, it takes twice the time to do that.

Have a nice Evening, Alex PS:  :-DD
 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #83 on: November 25, 2015, 05:36:12 pm »
That thing has set a whole new standard for Shit Box.  :bullshit: :-DD
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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #84 on: November 26, 2015, 07:42:36 am »
I did get a prototype at work once that was a routed board and pretty badly made, the excuse was that it was a prototype that would not have made it out of the design house but for the fact that we needed something to test with urgent so they sent it, but I was a little astonished, A pcb would not have cost that much and it was no wonder the actual prototype boards we paid money for were not much better and still used through hole parts.
 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #85 on: November 26, 2015, 10:50:22 am »
At least they sold it thinking it would work, and it probably did. You can see the physical evidence of shoddy workmanship in the box. But with firmware, shoddy workmanship is often hidden by the slap-dash programmers who hide their sloppiness. I once inherited and had to rewrite about 50,000 lines of shockingly bad firmware. Almost every line. A terrible experience for anyone who had not been sentenced to prison with hard labour.

DLINK sold a modem/router for about 2 years without some of its published functions working and their customer support was non-existent. The firmware was atrocious. I was a DLINK victim and after 18 months of toiling with the DLINK crap, I ended up I smashing it up into tiny pieces with a hammer and posting the debris in a box to DLINK Australia, addressed to the Managing Director with a one page descriptive note about what I thought of his DLINK company and his modem/router. Never touched DLINK since and never will. They are black banned for life.

In contrast, yesterday I opened Intel's new NUC for a project I am working on - beautifully made with quality workmanship, quality firmware, and quality design. Designed by skilled engineers no doubt. I fired it up and it worked a treat. Of course Intel is a big company, but they can call on the best engineers.

Some small companies can also go a great job, but their quality is only as good as the engineers they want to pay for, and of course the quality of their management. You pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #86 on: November 26, 2015, 11:42:51 am »
I think I probably find the engineer who did this: http://www.fingers-welt.de/gallerie.htm#a2

 ;D

No, seriously, Mr. Finger (that is really his real name) is a good engineer with an enervation for hot snot.

Check out the pictures in his gallery.
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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #87 on: November 26, 2015, 11:55:56 am »
There's no way that thing was delivered to a client.  Everything about it screams mockup for software testing. Probably they wanted to do viability and usability testing, and tasked some intern with cobbling together the hardware. (Usability testing often uses mockups, whether software or hardware.)

Medical devices have all sorts of requirements to receive FDA (and equivalent) approval, and I'm sure this thing doesn't come close to meeting them.
 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #88 on: November 26, 2015, 12:07:02 pm »
I think I probably find the engineer who did this: http://www.fingers-welt.de/gallerie.htm#a2

 ;D

Oh, sure.... let's trust "dining table fireworks" made by the same person who built that power supply.   :-DD
 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #89 on: November 26, 2015, 12:14:33 pm »
I think I probably find the engineer who did this: http://www.fingers-welt.de/gallerie.htm#a2

 ;D

No, seriously, Mr. Finger (that is really his real name) is a good engineer with an enervation for hot snot.

Check out the pictures in his gallery.

Awesome website  ;D :-+
 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #90 on: November 26, 2015, 12:29:24 pm »
I think I probably find the engineer who did this: http://www.fingers-welt.de/gallerie.htm#a2

 ;D

No, seriously, Mr. Finger (that is really his real name) is a good engineer with an enervation for hot snot.

Check out the pictures in his gallery.

Awesome website  ;D :-+

OK, this is pretty good: http://www.fingers-welt.de/gallerie/eigen/maschine/flipper/druck.htm
 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #91 on: November 26, 2015, 05:10:57 pm »
EyeSeeMed by ESINOMED uses Tobii eye tracking to give surgeons hands-free access to data

Link: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20141112005159/en/EyeSeeMed-ESINOMED-Tobii-eye-tracking-give-surgeons

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #92 on: November 26, 2015, 05:19:41 pm »
The most interesting fact is that Motion Computing made commercial tablets running both Win CE and XP specifically aimed at medical environments before this monstrosity of a tablet was soldered together by some intern to satisfy some weird requirement.

I know this because I was demonstrating these at Chicago expos long before this monstrosity was assembled.

Never was a real success though as relying on only stationary workstations is not really an issue in a hospital environment and tablets provide very little benefit, easier just to take patients to nearest workstation.

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #93 on: November 26, 2015, 05:20:51 pm »
I can't add anything more to how bad this tablet was constructed.   Enjoyed the video but that strand skit got me to look up the Dodgey Brothers and now I find myself watching Classic Aussie Comedy.   It's just so strange it's entertaining.   


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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #94 on: November 26, 2015, 05:46:35 pm »
Did this video get linked somewhere?
100k views in a few days!  :o

It made it even to the Czech Republic:

http://www.zive.cz/bleskovky/podivejte-se-na-tablet-s-nejhorsi-konstrukci-na-svete-video/sc-4-a-180533/default.aspx

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btw you still have not fixed the link to the forum.  O0

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #95 on: November 26, 2015, 05:55:55 pm »
It was posted on Hackaday sometime this morning.

http://hackaday.com/2015/11/26/fail-of-the-week-dave-jones-and-the-case-of-the-terrible-tablet/


Did this video get linked somewhere?
100k views in a few days!  :o

 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #96 on: November 26, 2015, 08:01:22 pm »
I just contacted Ensinomed by email. I sent them the Youtube link and a few questions about that product. Let's wait for an answer.... :-)
Since the company is located in Germany I thought, as a german speaking being, I might have a chance to get some info.

I must say that the products on their Website look much more professional than this pile of s**t.
 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #97 on: November 26, 2015, 08:44:55 pm »
I just contacted Ensinomed by email.
This has been done already (see post #38 for example) and as they seem to be bankrupt, they might currently have other priorities. So don't expect an answer soon.  ;)
 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #98 on: November 27, 2015, 01:36:55 am »
What I find amazing is that someone has come across this from essentially a collection of off-cast bits and pieces at an auction.
Dave makes a video of how bad it is, by inference that this was a delivered product to a customer.
No evidence of its background, I'll go so far as to say no proof that it was even this Esinomed company, except a sticker on the back (although it probably was). No verification of the devices history or context where it came from.
Now it might go as viral as you can get for this sort of subject/audience (being linked to by other groups and hackaday), what damage to a company could this do?
If Esinomed was a trading company, this might be causing some lawyers to be taking an interest right now?
Is this akin to someone dumpster diving out the back of Dave's lab, then finding Dave's breadboard mock up of the micro-current and portraying it as the finished goods and how bad the engineering is on such a product. Although I doubt it was anything like this tablet, but still....
I don't know, it's just interesting/concerning where this may lead. I know Dave does his vids in his way and that's the way it is, maybe a more thoughtful less assertive look at the device might have been better?
Not easy, not hard, just need to be incentivised.
 

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Re: EEVblog #822 - World's Worst Tablet Computer Teardown
« Reply #99 on: November 27, 2015, 08:08:45 am »

What I find amazing is that someone has come across this from essentially a collection of off-cast bits and pieces at an auction.
Dave makes a video of how bad it is, by inference that this was a delivered product to a customer.
No evidence of its background, I'll go so far as to say no proof that it was even this Esinomed company, except a sticker on the back (although it probably was). No verification of the devices history or context where it came from.
Now it might go as viral as you can get for this sort of subject/audience (being linked to by other groups and hackaday), what damage to a company could this do?
If Esinomed was a trading company, this might be causing some lawyers to be taking an interest right now?
Is this akin to someone dumpster diving out the back of Dave's lab, then finding Dave's breadboard mock up of the micro-current and portraying it as the finished goods and how bad the engineering is on such a product. Although I doubt it was anything like this tablet, but still....
I don't know, it's just interesting/concerning where this may lead. I know Dave does his vids in his way and that's the way it is, maybe a more thoughtful less assertive look at the device might have been better?

We only have the letter included in the mailbag to attest to the providence of this tablet. Even the sender of the mailbag has so far failed to provide more details. We have only the one post from a newly registered forum member which has made any claims. Do new forum members send mailbag items? I know it is possible, but is it likely?

Furthermore, the Rigol teardown video being taken down at the same time virtually. That is some coincidence.

You don't need to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out what has happened.

Have you thought about doing a hurdle race at the next Summer Olympics? You're really good at quickly jumping to conclusions.


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