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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #75 on: April 20, 2016, 08:30:27 am »
Don't forget that the Far East is where this feng shui thing comes from. A girlfriend once worked in a call center where there were lots of unhappy staff and folk resigning on a regular basis so the boss brought in a feng shui 'consultant' to improve the working atmosphere. He advised moving around a few desks and adding a couple of potted plants then submitted an invoice for over a thousand Euro. In the next three months five more people quit (including my ex gf) and a month after that the company was taken over and asset stripped.
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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #76 on: April 20, 2016, 08:59:17 am »
From what I've seen, people in Southeast Asia are on average more likely to believe in this sort of magic woo

From what I've seen, it's universal.

(and I'm in the wrong business)
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #77 on: April 20, 2016, 09:09:38 am »
UPDATE:

Z-Energeia have contacted me and offered to send me samples to try for myself and evaluate.

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Your expertise and know how of
Electrical and Electronics is valued by us and we will like to take this
opportunity to request that you test out our product in an impartial
manner and the results will prove to you our product technology is
absolute and it is not a shonky item.

Half of me wants to bust this stupid thing right open just for fun.
The other half of me knows I'm being trolled and it is a complete waste of my time and I should not give them any further oxygen.
It's like testing those rocks you put on your audio cables to make them sound better, or debating creationists. They are so absurd that they don't deserve to be even further acknowledged.
To quote Rochard Dawkins (who quoted someone else I think) "It would look great on their resume, but not on mine.

What say you?

Bad publicity does not exist... Stay away from those losers
ps: this technology might really help people conserve energy... lol joke energy is always conserved :palm: :palm: :palm:
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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #78 on: April 20, 2016, 09:22:56 am »
UPDATE:
What say you?
Ask commission.
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #79 on: April 20, 2016, 10:04:34 am »
Don´t do it...As the other said...bad publicity doesn´t exists...
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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #80 on: April 20, 2016, 10:19:52 am »
Test it Dave! I'll send you some extra-strength homoeopathic tranquillisers to help you cope. ;)

It sounds like a wonderful product but all that wiping looks like a lot of work. I'll hold out for the spray-on version. :P
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #81 on: April 20, 2016, 11:16:41 am »
Lol, i think they saw too many Dave's videos when he's saying "all the electrons fall out" before they "invented" a swab. :)
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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #82 on: April 20, 2016, 11:22:27 am »
UPDATE:

Z-Energeia have contacted me and offered to send me samples to try for myself and evaluate.

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Your expertise and know how of
Electrical and Electronics is valued by us and we will like to take this
opportunity to request that you test out our product in an impartial
manner and the results will prove to you our product technology is
absolute and it is not a shonky item.

Half of me wants to bust this stupid thing right open just for fun.
The other half of me knows I'm being trolled and it is a complete waste of my time and I should not give them any further oxygen.
It's like testing those rocks you put on your audio cables to make them sound better, or debating creationists. They are so absurd that they don't deserve to be even further acknowledged.
To quote Rochard Dawkins (who quoted someone else I think) "It would look great on their resume, but not on mine.

What say you?

Ignore them! These types of outfit will simply say 'as tested by' regardless of the result....
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #83 on: April 20, 2016, 11:36:26 am »
Ignore them! These types of outfit will simply say 'as tested by' regardless of the result....

There's no way you can win this by using science.

No matter how you 'test' it they can always say:
* It wasn't real world conditions
* The magic only happens at certain times of the day (when the grid is 'dirty')
* Your electrons might come from wind power so they're already well behaved
* Your fuse box is the wrong sort of plastic
* You wiped in the wrong direction
* ...any number of bullshit excuses

Plus: If anybody is thick enough to think it might work they won't be swayed by reason and logic.
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #84 on: April 20, 2016, 11:47:03 am »
Plus: If anybody is thick enough to think it might work they won't be swayed by reason and logic.

Thick is the wrong word... just lacking the appropriate level of knowledge...
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #85 on: April 20, 2016, 12:25:48 pm »
Dave's been holding out on us.



It is obviously an Electron Vibration Alignment Field meter.

It does readings for left to right Z-Energeia swipes, or right to left, but please don't try a circular swipe. The meter is not rated for circular swipes! Nothing is.

 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #86 on: April 20, 2016, 01:46:55 pm »
By agreeing to test this shit, Dave will show that he believes it is possible that it works.
That's all they want: to create doubt in the minds of people
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #87 on: April 20, 2016, 01:48:49 pm »
It is obviously an Electron Vibration Alignment Field meter.
It does readings for left to right Z-Energeia swipes, or right to left, but please don't try a circular swipe. The meter is not rated for circular swipes! Nothing is.

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #88 on: April 20, 2016, 01:50:01 pm »
By agreeing to test this shit, Dave will show that he believes it is possible that it works.
That's all they want: to create doubt in the minds of people

Yup, I'm being trolled into a fight that will only benefit them.
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #89 on: April 20, 2016, 01:51:31 pm »
Plus: If anybody is thick enough to think it might work they won't be swayed by reason and logic.

Thick is the wrong word... just lacking the appropriate level of knowledge...

How do you impart appropriate knowledge to people who are convinced that the laws of thermodynamics are a government conspiracy designed to block their God-given right to free energy?

Most of the world's population have had at least nine years of compulsory education, but many seem to chuck science straight out of the window as soon as it becomes inconvenient.

It's so much more satisfying to believe that you can stick it to The Man by buying electron vibration alignment wipes, magnetic fuel savers, tachyonic healing energy pendants, or whatever worthless pseudoscientific snake oil is flavour of the month.
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #90 on: April 20, 2016, 02:07:10 pm »
Plus: If anybody is thick enough to think it might work they won't be swayed by reason and logic.

Thick is the wrong word... just lacking the appropriate level of knowledge...

They went to the same schools as the skeptics did.  :-//
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #91 on: April 20, 2016, 03:30:04 pm »
These are about as effective as man caused global warming is real.
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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #92 on: April 20, 2016, 05:27:10 pm »
By agreeing to test this shit, Dave will show that he believes it is possible that it works.
That's all they want: to create doubt in the minds of people

Yup, I'm being trolled into a fight that will only benefit them.

I agree that testing would just give credibility to the product.

However, I'm curious as to what actually is in the wipe, and how safe it is. Alcohol? Water? Chemicals? A chemical analysis could be interesting, but I would not test effectiveness in any way. Maybe a window cleaning test... :-DD
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #93 on: April 20, 2016, 07:08:57 pm »
Are they flushable?
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #94 on: April 20, 2016, 07:13:52 pm »
 Yes, but you better hope the are completely dry, and/or hat they go through the pipe the right way, otherwise you may find your sewage lining up the wrong way....
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #95 on: April 20, 2016, 07:18:01 pm »
Yes, but you better hope the are completely dry, and/or hat they go through the pipe the right way, otherwise you may find your sewage lining up the wrong way....

Maybe, but as long as my arse is clean and I don't get a rash...
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #96 on: April 20, 2016, 07:21:40 pm »
You will have some puckering in any case, as it will align the muscle fibres the wrong way as you wipe.
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #97 on: April 20, 2016, 07:23:07 pm »
But i'll be able to stay awake longer as I've saved 20% energy...
 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #98 on: April 20, 2016, 09:04:09 pm »
you may find your sewage lining up the wrong way....

This could be a devastating weapon in the wrong hands.

 

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Re: EEVblog #870 - Shonky Z-Energeia Energy Saving Wipes
« Reply #99 on: April 20, 2016, 10:53:36 pm »
  Thanks, Dave for that video! That really gave me a laugh yesterday.  :-DD I have not been well the past few years but that brightened my day! The seller's video looked like a spoof The Onion would publish. My bogosity meter was pegged and chattering! Keep at it Dave!

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