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Offline cybermaus

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #100 on: February 27, 2014, 01:29:12 am »
Ah, good old cold war. We knew who our enemy, and he was far away.

except for McCarthy era of course. Or Beria's reign. Oh fuck, its of all ages..... only the technology changes.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #101 on: February 27, 2014, 01:46:58 am »
Ordered the thing, got everything I've had from other companies, got a delivery date and waited for my Pi. And Waited, And Waited. About a week after my delivery date I contacted them to see when and how they had shipped it as it might of got lost in the post/mis-delivered (I often get post and deliveries for another address) and only then found out that the order was put on hold for some reason.
I never have a problem when I order from Farnell/Germany. Order in the morning, delivery next day guaranteed, if it is in stock in one of their warehouses in Germany or UK. But they don't have as much parts as Digikey and usually more expensive.
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #102 on: February 27, 2014, 02:34:35 am »
and now, even the brand new soylent news is carrying this:

http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/02/26/0323217

(soylent is a fork of slashdot, started just a week ago when the slash beta came out and people wanted to do a mass exodus from slashdot.)

wonder how many news agg's have picked up on this story.

dave, you're famous now ;)
 

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Re: Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #103 on: February 27, 2014, 02:37:00 am »
I'm not alone trust me. I get more US AD flyers from our sister city then Canadian ones trying to entice us back in numbers.

Who are 'us'?
Drain the swamp.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #104 on: February 27, 2014, 06:57:05 am »
Of course the really scary thing is that the people who are supposedly in charge of security are such bumbling dickheads that they think stuff like this achieves anything useful.

That depends what they're trying to achieve.  If what they're trying to achieve is maintaining an illusion of protective action, then they're probably succeeding.  At least to the vast majority who don't actually like to think too hard.
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #105 on: February 28, 2014, 01:11:02 am »
Interesting, presumably Farnell and Newark do the same thing!! What about RScomponents (or Radio Spares as I remember them)?

It really is a bad thing when long established UK companies are dictated to by the United States of Paranoia  :scared:
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #107 on: March 02, 2014, 05:22:56 pm »
So, would you cry over the absurd confiscation of the gun.

..or over the fact that Woody normally does not even feature a gun. He has a holster, but not a gun, him not having a gun falling into the same PC-ness like re-CGI-ing agents in the ET movie with walkie-talkies.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #108 on: March 02, 2014, 06:03:07 pm »
So, would you cry over the absurd confiscation of the gun.

..or over the fact that Woody normally does not even feature a gun. He has a holster, but not a gun, him not having a gun falling into the same PC-ness like re-CGI-ing agents in the ET movie with walkie-talkies.

If Woody doesn't normally have a gun,the concern may have been more over what the gun was made of,rather than the fact it was a "gun".

Various things made of untreated wood,for instance,are commonly confiscated due to the possibility of devastating plant diseases.
The dear old Daily Mail was never one to spoil a good story with facts,so I doubt if they did any serious research on the matter.

Woody probably lacks a gun so that smaller kids don't choke on it.
Plenty of toy soldiers still have guns,but they are usually moulded in one piece with the soldier.
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #109 on: March 02, 2014, 06:19:53 pm »
I really miss quality reporting. Where is bat boy when we need him most?
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #110 on: March 02, 2014, 07:36:49 pm »
So, would you cry over the absurd confiscation of the gun.

..or over the fact that Woody normally does not even feature a gun. He has a holster, but not a gun, him not having a gun falling into the same PC-ness like re-CGI-ing agents in the ET movie with walkie-talkies.

If Woody doesn't normally have a gun,the concern may have been more over what the gun was made of,rather than the fact it was a "gun".

Various things made of untreated wood,for instance,are commonly confiscated due to the possibility of devastating plant diseases.
The dear old Daily Mail was never one to spoil a good story with facts,so I doubt if they did any serious research on the matter.

Woody probably lacks a gun so that smaller kids don't choke on it.
Plenty of toy soldiers still have guns,but they are usually moulded in one piece with the soldier.

Thing is the character Woody in the films just never had a gun, he always had an empty holster.  You can make up whatever in-setting reason you want for why that is; it's quite possible the character Andy lost it years ago (I mean that's what happened to most of my toys with fiddly bits).  It could be the in-setting character never had a gun either - there's certainly precedent for a character who doesn't carry a gun in westerns.

The real world reason quite possibly was that Pixar didn't want him to have a gun; it seems quite possible it was to avoid the possibility of choking hazards.  The old school green molded soldiers in the films have their guns still.  It's also possibly they didn't want to make a movie tie-in figure with a gun, so decided to excluded it in the film too, so it still looked identical.
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #111 on: March 02, 2014, 09:16:09 pm »
I'm not sure if I sould laugh or cry over this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2556586/Reach-sky-Overzealous-Heathrow-security-officials-confiscate-Toy-Story-cowboy-Woody-DOLLS-miniature-gun.html Paranoia is horrible disease.

Small fully functional guns actually exist and they can be used to harm and/or intimidate people. I wouldn't want to get hit by one.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #112 on: March 02, 2014, 11:19:23 pm »
Small fully functional guns actually exist and they can be used to harm and/or intimidate people. I wouldn't want to get hit by one.
Surely a pen, grain of rice and a good set of lungs will do more damage
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #113 on: March 03, 2014, 12:04:19 am »
Don't let them overhear you, or next month we will also not be allowed to bring a pen.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #114 on: March 03, 2014, 12:41:04 am »
So in the US you can own a personal jet fighter. In Canada our military's version of an aircraft carrier is a rowboat with a chunk of plywood on top. The biggest military decision in the country is which coast to put the tank on.
When did we get a tank ?? :o

1 Whole tank?  I would suggest all the Canadian citizens chip in a few bucks, buy a 2nd tank and donate it to the Military. No decisions on which coast to put it and maybe everyone can list the contribution as a tax deduction. :-DD
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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #115 on: March 03, 2014, 01:44:50 am »
Small fully functional guns actually exist and they can be used to harm and/or intimidate people. I wouldn't want to get hit by one.
Surely a pen, grain of rice and a good set of lungs will do more damage

Well...
2mm shot went clean through a normal sized tomato.
Tomatos are mainly water, so are humans. If it kills a tomato it can kill a human.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #116 on: March 03, 2014, 06:09:15 am »
I'm not sure if I sould laugh or cry over this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2556586/Reach-sky-Overzealous-Heathrow-security-officials-confiscate-Toy-Story-cowboy-Woody-DOLLS-miniature-gun.html Paranoia is horrible disease.

Small fully functional guns actually exist and they can be used to harm and/or intimidate people. I wouldn't want to get hit by one.

and if the tsa agent could not tell a working metal machine with moving parts from a shitty lump of molded plastic, they shouldnt be considered fit to leave their padded cells.
 

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« Reply #117 on: March 03, 2014, 06:17:23 am »
Hey all.  Just wanted to give the group a heads up on a seller to avoid.  There's a seller on Ebay who's name is supertechshop and is definitely a shady character.  I recently purchased some National Instruments brand cables and received generic ones instead (the ones that say "IEEE-488", not "National Instruments").  While he was willing to give me my money back, he was definitely unhappy about it and never admitted they were generic, but instead insisted that we "agree to disagree."  We'll when I was processing the complain on EBay, the return address listed his real name.  I googled it and discovered that he was indicted in 2001 by the US attorney's office and the IRS for selling stolen computer equipment and money laundering.  Not sure what the outcome of the charges were, but I would definitely stay away from this character.

Cheers

If your search terms are purely on name, then I agree - I think Dave Jones should be taken to guantanamo and be waterboarded until he finally admits he is an al-qaeda terrorist pretending to be a nice family man from sydney running a blog on electronic engineering. Come on, we all know he is a terrorist "sleeper" and this whole thing is a front.

I will remove my tinfoil after I hit "Post"... :)

ETA: For context - www.eevblog.com/2014/02/24/element-14-holding-orders-based-on-us-government-watch-list/
« Last Edit: March 03, 2014, 06:27:45 am by Macbeth »
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #118 on: March 03, 2014, 12:59:36 pm »
Well...
2mm shot went clean through a normal sized tomato.
Tomatos are mainly water, so are humans. If it kills a tomato it can kill a human.

I don't recall seeing any muscle, sinew, fat or bone last time I cut up a tomato!!.
The odd multimeter or 2 or 3 or 4...or........can't remember !.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #119 on: March 03, 2014, 01:06:45 pm »
I think it unlikely a 2mm pinfire could cause fatal damage unless very carefully used. I would be rather more afraid of a sharp toothbrush.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #120 on: March 03, 2014, 01:07:09 pm »
First, the terrorist needs to demonstrate its lethal, or at least the weapon is convincing, so a 1st shot must be initiated. Otherwise he will get laughed at.  :-DD

Terrorist aint stupid, with that "rice gun", even he managed to kill a person on the 1st shot, assuming an instant & deadly penetration into the heart or critical brain part, how do you expect the threatened crowd will react after the 1st shot while watching he is busy re-loading the "rice" ?

I don't think its good enough to make such a dangerous threat that will convince the whole plane passengers.

Not a security expert, but I don't think that rice gun is more threatening than a metal fork.

A weapon for assassin, probably yes, but with big chance of failure, a weapon for hijacking a plane ? C'mon.  :palm:
« Last Edit: March 04, 2014, 05:58:10 pm by BravoV »
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #121 on: March 03, 2014, 01:45:16 pm »
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #122 on: March 04, 2014, 10:54:50 am »
Congratulations, you made it on Techdirt :  http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140226/18352626367/australian-man-cant-get-parts-because-his-super-generic-name-is-us-terrorist-watchlist.shtml

Wonder how much traffic they will bring you, compared to previous more niche/related sites like Hackaday... would love to see some stats if you'll find the time in a few days to check and if you're willing to share.
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #123 on: March 04, 2014, 11:13:30 am »
(geeky looking guy going thru security)

"check this guy, bruce; he might be carrying wooden-covered capacitors or even metal bitcoins.  he looks the type, alright."
 

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Re: Element 14 Holding Orders Based On US Government Watch List!
« Reply #124 on: May 07, 2014, 04:52:49 am »
Change your name to Terry Wrist or Al Kyder.

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