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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #50 on: April 18, 2017, 02:51:55 pm »
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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #51 on: April 18, 2017, 02:58:34 pm »
I just felt the need to mention what is out there and what is possible. I do not pretend to have solution to your current problem Dave. You know what you're doing.

I don't have a problem  ;D

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But if I was a content creator I would definitely try to run an autonomous CDN besides my regular YT account, and I would mention this here and there hoping to get more creators into it.
At least I wouldn't be willingly handing Google the monopoly on a silver platter.

A lot of my content is on Vimeo also, and every numbered video I have ever made is on my server, albeit in a 640x360 podcast version:
http://www.eevblog.org
In fact some people know that videos typically get uploaded there before they are released.
I also tried a torrent server once, it sucked.
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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #52 on: April 18, 2017, 03:04:57 pm »
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A lot of my content is in Vimeo also, and every numbered video I have veer made is on my server, albeit in a 640x360 podcast version:

Exactly, If more creators started doing the same thing you could start pooling resources which would reduce costs and increase popularity.

And the technical solution to let you do so already exists.

I'm not a content creator but even I could set up a server just to start the ball rolling.
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #53 on: April 18, 2017, 03:43:03 pm »


I'm not a content creator but even I could set up a server just to start the ball rolling.

And there lies your problem, another person able to do it different that is not going to use it. There will be plenty of people that make content but don't have your knowledge.
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2017, 03:56:45 pm »
Anyway the point is, you've got a perfectly fine web server and you know how to use it.  Rather than contribute to youtube's success while they increasingly inhibit yours maybe reconsider why you'd even want to do business with such a company / "service".
Running your own (single?) server with their bandwidth is unpractical. You would need a cluster with a huge connection to provide proper (HD) video streaming.
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #55 on: April 18, 2017, 04:04:55 pm »
Which is why it has to be done across multiple servers and is only practical if people club together, i wonder how hosting companies started out.

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #56 on: April 18, 2017, 05:19:01 pm »
This is where the MediaGoblin and it's federated content sharing comes in. It let's you share resources with other users.

Video in the link:

https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/christopher-webber-federation-and-gnu-2b47/
 
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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #57 on: April 18, 2017, 05:31:32 pm »
A glimpse of the future. Google's machine learning and AI in action.

Some people think stuff like this will be driving cars in a couple of years.
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #58 on: April 18, 2017, 07:51:50 pm »
For those who think Youtubers can just change to another site or host the video server yourself etc are missing the entire point of Youtube.
It is the world's 2nd biggest search engine, and the world's biggest video search engine by many orders of magnitudes. When you want to find and watch a video on anything, the only place you turn to is Youtube.
Half of my daily views come from searches, and almost the entirety of my existing and continual new audience comes from being visible and searchable on Youtube.

There is a reason why there practically isn't anyone making a living making original Facebook video content, or Vimeo content etc.
Twitch might be the only exception, but it's still zero competition to Youtube.

Good luck trying to convince advertisers you have xx thousands of viewers on your own private server, or vimeo etc, no one cares, you become invisible and will almost certainly fade away as will any audience who switched with you.

The biggest reason I prefer Youtube videos is simply because they work and I can easily download them for local viewing albeit limited to 720p.

Invariably when I do a Google search and find the video that I want on a site other than Youtube, it either does not work or works very poorly.  My experience has been so bad in this respect that I usually do not even bother with video that is not on Youtube unless it is a direct download link and who does that?  And even on Youtube, I download first and watch using local video player unless it is trivial and short content.

Oh, but the porn video sites work fine.  Liveleak works fine also.  Why can't Vimeo and all of the video content sites other than Youtube and Liveleak figure it out?  The only thing they have figured out is not to put a "buffering..." message up.
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #59 on: April 18, 2017, 08:37:01 pm »
Thanks evb149 for the wonderful exposition. I could not have distilled the matter more succinctly.

Yes indeed the web of today carries the shared memory of mankind and deleting a video is the same thing as burning a book. Nobody should have the monopoly to do so in this day and age. Librarians call the unintentional loss of information "Web Rot" and are trying to figure out ways to deal with it. The intentional censoring of information on the other hand is much more serious, but we don't have a name for it yet.

The RSS/Atom feeds can be made an order of magnitude more useful if integrated with a torrent client. This way when new content is posted the client automatically downloads it and starts seeding to other users, even if you don't watch it immediately. The effectiveness is evident from movie streaming applications like PopcornTime et. al.

In the above application a file with 1000 seeders has MASSIVE bandwidth and can be disseminated globally no problem whatsoever. So a content creator like Dave having 1000 RSS subscribers is roughly comparable to his YT channel in the amount of bits reaching the audience. All this with minimal cost to Dave.

The keyword search and human based semantic classification is actually easy. Just look at how Reddit works. There are niche communities with very specific interest who constantly share and discuss content relevant to them. The only problem is that the flow of information is one way only and there is no way of feeding it back to the creator. Reddit also has its own rudimentary monetization scheme which they do not intent to make extensible to the original content creator. Another thing that can be improved.

 
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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #60 on: April 18, 2017, 11:54:26 pm »
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A lot of my content is in Vimeo also, and every numbered video I have veer made is on my server, albeit in a 640x360 podcast version:
Exactly, If more creators started doing the same thing you could start pooling resources which would reduce costs and increase popularity.

It's never going to be popular.

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And the technical solution to let you do so already exists.
I'm not a content creator but even I could set up a server just to start the ball rolling.

To solve what problem?
There is no problem.
There is nothing stopping content creators uploading to any and all of the CDN's like Youtube, Vimeo, Vid.me, etc etc (even Facebook), if redundancy and viewer choice is your issue.
Fact is no one cares about anything other than Youtube.
But if you want to do that sort of thing, then I'm not here to discourage it, just pointing out what the real world cares about.

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #61 on: April 18, 2017, 11:57:52 pm »
In practical terms, these 'alternatives' will be seen by a great many as an exercise in reinventing the wheel.

Many content producers wouldn't have the skills and/or the interest in travelling down a path that requires them to put more effort into publishing their work ... yes, even if it meant they bailed out completely.  Another issue is the potential for multiple "standards" in exactly how multiple hosts are configured and accessed.  The list goes on.

Then there are the costs involved in providing an effective service (read bandwidth and capacity).


It may appear to be a solution on paper, but real world issues will be a significant barrier to success.

IMHO.


and there's this....

Fact is no one cares about anything other than Youtube.

 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #62 on: April 19, 2017, 12:03:20 am »
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The RSS/Atom feeds can be made an order of magnitude more useful if integrated with a torrent client. This way when new content is posted the client automatically downloads it and starts seeding to other users, even if you don't watch it immediately. The effectiveness is evident from movie streaming applications like PopcornTime et. al.
In the above application a file with 1000 seeders has MASSIVE bandwidth and can be disseminated globally no problem whatsoever. So a content creator like Dave having 1000 RSS subscribers is roughly comparable to his YT channel in the amount of bits reaching the audience. All this with minimal cost to Dave.

I've been talking about dropping the podcast RSS version for years now, and have said I may drop it at any time.
It's three extra process steps for me just to do it -  separate render, separate FTP server upload, and adding it to the feed.

For the Amp Hour podcast, which is just audio, and 1/10th the bandwidth requirement of video we had to use a professional CDN service designed just for that, LibSyn.
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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #63 on: April 19, 2017, 12:11:47 am »
In practical terms, these 'alternatives' will be seen by a great many as an exercise in reinventing the wheel.
Many content producers wouldn't have the skills and/or the interest in travelling down a path that requires them to put more effort into publishing their work ... yes, even if it meant they bailed out completely.  Another issue is the potential for multiple "standards" in exactly how multiple hosts are configured and accessed.  The list goes on.
Then there are the costs involved in providing an effective service (read bandwidth and capacity).
It may appear to be a solution on paper, but real world issues will be a significant barrier to success.

And all this talk of setting your own CDN or moving to another CDN service like Vimeo etc is only valid for those who already have a large audience and can potentially take some of them with them.
It is not an option for someone starting out, even if they have the best technical skills in the world to implement it.
Even something as huge and ubiquitous as Facebook (and who claim to serve more video than Youtube (which is bullshit, but we'll run with that)), used by more than a billion people a month, count how many people make a full time living making video content on just Facebook. Name one person who is known for making original video content on Facebook. You can't. There are reasons for this.
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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #64 on: April 19, 2017, 01:38:23 am »
I just jumped on my YouTube homepage and EEVdiscover was there with suggested videos.

I was thinking, I like the sound of "EEV Scope" as a name for the new channel. It can still mean the same thing, but it has the cope pun for those in the know. Get the scoop on The Scope. ;)
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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #65 on: April 19, 2017, 01:55:11 am »
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Fact is no one cares about anything other than Youtube.

Thanks for defending the status quo boys. Thought nobody was going to put a good word in for the poor old status quo. God knows the old girl needs all the help she can get.
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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #66 on: April 19, 2017, 02:23:55 am »
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Fact is no one cares about anything other than Youtube.

Thanks for defending the status quo boys. Thought nobody was going to put a good word in for the poor old status quo. God knows the old girl needs all the help she can get.
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I just felt like being rebellious and all that nonsense. I repent.  :horse:

The problem is diversity leads to confusion. Not only for people to remember what site content was uploaded to (these kind of sites would likely copy each other's looks eventually) if they just happened to watch random videos, but for the uploaders who would have their target audiences split up by multiple sites, meaning they only get a fraction of it. Even if all sites were to become "popular", people would still choose which ones to frequent and ignore others.
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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #67 on: April 19, 2017, 02:55:03 am »
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Fact is no one cares about anything other than Youtube.
Thanks for defending the status quo boys. Thought nobody was going to put a good word in for the poor old status quo. God knows the old girl needs all the help she can get.
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I just felt like being rebellious and all that nonsense. I repent.  :horse:

Stating a fact does not imply defence or endorsement etc. It's just a fact.
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #68 on: April 19, 2017, 05:34:29 am »
You can't ignore the status quo.  It has inertia.  Sometimes that inertia is massive.

For any new player, they not only have to deliver a better product in all manner of ways - performance, searching, ease of use and whatever else will be needed to attract patronage - but they need to overcome the inertia in order for it to be adopted.
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #69 on: April 20, 2017, 07:59:31 pm »


Google is also a monopoly for search service and this is also a bad thing that we are stuck with it.

There are open source peer-to-peer search engines out there. The prime example being YaCy http://yacy.net/en/index.html

If federated content becomes popular the federated search service will also be popular.

I would use it but where is the download link ?

Another 2 click wonder written by technical poeple for technical people. non of it made any sense and on firing it up the second time it failed to work. If you really want to run a project like lacy then get it onto BOINC so that contributors just link to the project with minimal understanding.
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #70 on: April 20, 2017, 11:34:53 pm »
got the notification for the new video today, but want to watch it later, rirgt now i Want to see it but the video has ben taken down, does any one one know why Dave has take this video down.
I remember the video picture was a picture of some PCB see picture from the mail notification. link to the video
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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #71 on: April 28, 2017, 09:18:40 pm »
I might be a bit late to the party here, but I just tried to put the new channel into feedly (rss reader) and BuzzFeedBlue channel popped up.

It might have been a hash collision, or database error. Or feedly might have messed up their cache. It is interesting enough for me to register here and post it anyways.
 

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Re: My New Youtube Channel BANNED!
« Reply #72 on: May 01, 2017, 06:24:23 pm »
WHY does this happen again !!! does Dave have some change that he take the video down again
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« Reply #73 on: May 01, 2017, 06:39:26 pm »
WHY does this happen again !!! does Dave have some change that he take the video down again
Personal information in the video.
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