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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #150 on: October 10, 2017, 04:28:52 AM »
Excellent. Reporting items does work to put a spotlight on problem listings.

I don't think so.  I reported the $17 seller 3 weeks ago, and nothing happened.  The very similar $18 seller is still out there.  I think eBay mostly ignores fraud reports, but eventually notices other signals like negative feedback ratings and refunds issued.


And then the scammer ends up looking like a exemplary ebay citizen?! 

It looks like it was an account hijacking situation, or at least eBay thinks that.

(So maybe the listing was only taken down when the legitimate account owner complained?)
 

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« Reply #151 on: October 10, 2017, 05:08:04 AM »
If that is in fact the case, I would rather that ebay erased the incident than saddle somebody with a bad reputation they didn't deserve.

Excellent. Reporting items does work to put a spotlight on problem listings.

I don't think so.  I reported the $17 seller 3 weeks ago, and nothing happened.  The very similar $18 seller is still out there.  I think eBay mostly ignores fraud reports, but eventually notices other signals like negative feedback ratings and refunds issued.


And then the scammer ends up looking like a exemplary ebay citizen?! 

It looks like it was an account hijacking situation, or at least eBay thinks that.

(So maybe the listing was only taken down when the legitimate account owner complained?)
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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #152 on: October 10, 2017, 05:31:20 AM »
... and all the time people spent submitting complaints with the intention of preventing this in the future becomes wasted effort?

Not wasted for eBay shareholders and the seller.  There are winners (them) and losers (us).  Just sad to see this come through the forum.

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« Reply #153 on: October 10, 2017, 06:25:23 AM »
So far my experience with ebay has been pretty good, overall.

It's only if people end up losing their money that we lose. (I didn't mean just buyers, I also meant ebay- if it has to eat he cost of refunding a buyer because of a fraudulent seller, I agree, that does likely get passed on in the form of higher costs.)

If indeed this was a case of identity theft, I wouldn't be surprised. It happens everywhere. (meaning, I am sure it also happens in China to sellers sometime)

... and all the time people spent submitting complaints with the intention of preventing this in the future becomes wasted effort?

Not wasted for eBay shareholders and the seller.  There are winners (them) and losers (us).  Just sad to see this come through the forum.
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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #154 on: October 10, 2017, 10:01:50 AM »
If eBay loses money, we lose as well, generally speaking. Those costs get translated into higher fees, which results in fewer sellers, less stuff, higher prices, etc.
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« Reply #155 on: October 10, 2017, 10:13:42 AM »
People from this community are likely quite vigilant and engaged as buyers go.

Fraudulent sellers likely prey upon those who buy something and then don't notice or at least don't complain if it never shows up- and also don't visit the ebay site to track their purchases.





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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #156 on: October 13, 2017, 06:41:29 AM »
Ebay refunded me in full now, I ordered the mituyi incase it was ok, but as others, nothing was shipped.
Got an trackinnumber, but that was for someone else :)
 

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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #157 on: October 13, 2017, 07:06:21 AM »
The seller now has one positive feedback from someone who bought three UT210E meters. So there actually were some meters available? Weird stuff.
My "meter" package still has this latest tracking data: "2017-09-24 07:52 Shanghai Pudong, left". Destination country is correct, so I guess "something" should arrive to someone over here.
 

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« Reply #158 on: October 13, 2017, 07:31:52 AM »
I received full refund from eBay today. 
 

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« Reply #159 on: October 13, 2017, 07:43:57 AM »
I ended up ordering one earlier, and my item also ended up somewhere completely wrong and was delivered to someone. I expect the seller reuses tracking numbers.

eBay case has been opened, expect they'll refund me.
 

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« Reply #160 on: October 13, 2017, 07:44:23 AM »
That sounds like possibly a fake review because Ebay were only letting people buy one every ten days.

If you read back through the posts you'll find more on that.

The seller now has one positive feedback from someone who bought three UT210E meters. So there actually were some meters available? Weird stuff.
My "meter" package still has this latest tracking data: "2017-09-24 07:52 Shanghai Pudong, left". Destination country is correct, so I guess "something" should arrive to someone over here.
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« Reply #161 on: October 13, 2017, 08:13:31 AM »
Currently, one tracking number likely is being given to multiple recipients..
Ebay does not allow uploading same tracking number more than one time, you will get error message when trying to do so. I would guess those could be goods sold on other platform like aliexpress or maybe from different ebay account.
He's selling the 99c toys and sending with tracking. Then uses the tracking numbers for the meters.
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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #162 on: October 13, 2017, 08:23:02 AM »
Do you have to wait until it is delivered somewhere before a complaint is filed?  tks

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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #163 on: October 13, 2017, 09:21:23 AM »
Do you have to wait until it is delivered somewhere before a complaint is filed?  tks
In my case I opened the case even when it was not completed the delivery to the wrong address... eBay asked me to wait but then suddenly they removed the listing and gave priority to the case that I opened and issued the refund without any other interaction with them.  Open the item not received case as soon as possible.

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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #164 on: October 13, 2017, 09:33:13 AM »
I have these choices:

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Choose from these popular issues

    I didn't receive my item
    I received an item that wasn't as described
    I want to cancel a purchase
    I want to return this item
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I picked "I want to cancel a purchase" and got a message that I did not buy the item.  I figure it is going to be a fight.
My last experience with trying to get a refund with eBay was hell on earth.


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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #165 on: October 13, 2017, 09:42:11 AM »
If eBay loses money, we lose as well, generally speaking. Those costs get translated into higher fees, which results in fewer sellers, less stuff, higher prices, etc.

It's a form of insurance and there is a cost to policing the marketplace for bad eggs. I don't accept at face value that the fees directly result in fewer sellers or less stuff. Higher prices, probably yes.

The greater protection may also lead to more buyers. The system has evolved in response to customer demands. I doubt Ebay just makes this stuff up out of boredom because it does have a real cost to them in staff to administer it all.
 

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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #166 on: October 13, 2017, 09:53:54 AM »
I have these choices:

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Choose from these popular issues

    I didn't receive my item
    I received an item that wasn't as described
    I want to cancel a purchase
    I want to return this item
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I picked "I want to cancel a purchase" and got a message that I did not buy the item.  I figure it is going to be a fight.
My last experience with trying to get a refund with eBay was hell on earth.
Do you see it in your Purchase History screen?  Have you checked your paypal account?  Maybe it was already cancelled or it never went through and your money is still there...
 

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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #167 on: October 13, 2017, 10:25:51 AM »
Just received the full refund.
I opened a dispute on eBay selecting "I didn't received the item" and explained to the seller thet the shipment is taking more than expected.
The seller didn't respond in 3 days and eBay stepped in refunding me immediately.

I ordered another one few days ago from another seller and should be here soon.
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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #168 on: October 13, 2017, 10:34:23 AM »
Do you see it in your Purchase History screen?  - Yes

Have you checked your paypal account?  - I paid

Maybe it was already cancelled or it never went through and your money is still there...   - Not cancelled nor money


I will wait until it is delivered to Tenn  (I live in Calif). But it is taking a long time to go from Fl to Tn.

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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #169 on: October 13, 2017, 10:37:15 AM »
Do you see it in your Purchase History screen?  - Yes

Have you checked your paypal account?  - I paid

Maybe it was already cancelled or it never went through and your money is still there...   - Not cancelled nor money


I will wait until it is delivered to Tenn  (I live in Calif). But it is taking a long time to go from Fl to Tn.
Change your claim from I want to cancel, to Item not received and you should get a refund, I have always found that Ebay will back you as buyer before they back a seller.
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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #170 on: October 13, 2017, 04:10:45 PM »
Maybe this item is different since it was removed and there already are refunds etc. But previously I haven't been able to open an item not received case until last delivery date had passed. My meter has delivery window between 16th of october to 17th of november. So still a long wait ahead. It's not even the first day of the promised delivery date.
 

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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #171 on: October 13, 2017, 04:48:28 PM »
But previously I haven't been able to open an item not received case until last delivery date had passed. My meter has delivery window between 16th of october to 17th of november. So still a long wait ahead. It's not even the first day of the promised delivery date.

The exception is that once an item shows as delivered in eBay's system, you can open an item not received case.  US buyers got a nice EMS tracking number that was "delivered" quickly.  What kind of bogus tracking number did you get?
 

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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #172 on: October 13, 2017, 04:56:11 PM »
What kind of bogus tracking number did you get?
My tracking number is for a registered package via China Post.
 

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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #173 on: October 13, 2017, 07:34:08 PM »
My delivery period will end at mid november, my item is in transit and my tracking number is active, but I claimed "didn't received the item" just because I know it is a Scam and at this point eBay is already aware of it. Didn't mention anything in the claim, just my opinion on the unusual delay on the delivery and a request to check.
As soon as the seller didn't respond in the expected 3 days, eBay refunded me immediately without further explanation required.

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Re: Deal alert! uni-t UT210E US $17.27 on ebay!
« Reply #174 on: October 13, 2017, 10:31:54 PM »
I ended up ordering one earlier, and my item also ended up somewhere completely wrong and was delivered to someone. I expect the seller reuses tracking numbers.

eBay case has been opened, expect they'll refund me.

Was that trackingnumber for an package in Norway?

The trackingnumber I got, was for an norwegian delivery, strangely enough.
 


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