FS (US): Old Stock SMD Chips, nearly 900 REELS! (some full, & some through hole)

[Falcon69]

I will try this again, Last time I did this, I had some 'hecklers' causing trouble'. These are sold as is, if you want em, then come get em. Will be moving soon and just need to get rid of this.

For a list, PM your email and I'll send it to you. Local pick-up only in Portland, OR or I can deliver it across country if the purchase amount is enough to offset my fuel costs, as this stuff would be very expensive to ship. I will not drop these off at your shipper, accepting your check for more than the amount, and send you that difference, I don't care if you are the Prince of Nigeria!

Here's just a pic of part of the list. There are about 900 reels, and alot of loose chips (like cut tapes) as well. Not all reels are full, the ones are will be highlighted in green on the list.  Most are still active chips, however some are obsolete. Some are old, some are not, I don't have that information, and probably should have listed that on the spreadsheet, but I'm not going back through them all again to do that. It took me weeks to just inventory them and set up the spread sheet like I have done.

I'm taking any reasonable offer on these, there's alot of them, about 9 boxes full. I have tried my best to inventory them all. + or - 200 pieces on a roll. The spreadsheet shows the all the details of the chips, as well as a label number which has been put on each reel to easily identify and match them up to the list. Pay no attention to the pricing I put on the list, That was just info for me, if I had wanted to spend the time and break things down and sell on fleabay or something, so ignore it. Just give me a reasonable off for all of it, and we can go from there.

[Falcon69]

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[hendorog]

Not sure if it was intentional, but you haven't posted the spreadsheet you mentioned?

[Falcon69]

i cant. it won't let me post .xlsx (microsoft excel) files

pm your email address and i'll send it to you

[Falcon69]

Here's the list in Open Document File Format. See if this works. The site does not allow me to post the Excel file.

[DC1MC]

Why this ALWAS have to be in the States 

[Falcon69]

i keep asking myself that, but in a different way....Why did I have to be born in the states!

[tautech]

When filetypes are not supported by the forum change the file extension to a type that is and add a note in your post or in the filename to change the file extension to the correct type. Seen and done it a few times and it works great.
But this is only applicable to files under 1MB, the forum max.

[Falcon69]

Okay, I will try that...

Here is the Excel file format, just change the extension to " .xlsx " from " .txt "

[tautech]

Okay, I will try that...

Here is the Excel file format, just change the extension to " .xlsx " from " .txt "

Works fine.
The other trick for Excel files is to save them in compatibility mode where they are more readily opened by any Excel file reader.

[wraper]

Okay, I will try that...

Here is the Excel file format, just change the extension to " .xlsx " from " .txt "

You can just create zip archive.

[iampoor]

I just PM'ed you my email address for the list. I live in Central California, but will have some friends making a trip up to Vancouver Washington in the next 2 weeks. 

[Falcon69]

sent ya list. Vancouver is just over the bridge from me. Pretty Close.

[Falcon69]

Still got all this stuff. Ive had some interest, but no shows so far.

I know what the stuff costs when it was new, but, not really sure on what it is worth now. So willing to take any reasonable offer.

There's alot of chips and passives here.

[soubitos]

why not list the lot on ebay, then post here the link ?
You might get more that way and would make things more interesting, plus you could reach people not visiting eevblog

[DaJMasta]

If you were willing to break it into box-sized lots, you make get some takers too - even if the assortment is random.

The whole stockpile is huge and is really difficult to ship, but portioning it out may make the price of entry more appealing and give you the option of shipping.  Definitely more work for you, but maybe something that would generate more interest.


You could also go through and pick out a few things you think were somewhat valuable and list them individually (a reel of big caps, LEDs, or ICs could be worth your time for singling out and selling), then sell the remainder at some bulk rate just tossed in a big box.


Not sure if you want to put in the effort for that, but I do think it would drum up some more interest.  Between not having a ton of space and being far away, going after a lot like this is totally out of my reach, though it definitely had piqued my interest.

[CJay]

For a list, PM your email and I'll send it to you. Local pick-up only in Portland, OR or I can deliver it across country if the purchase amount is enough to offset my fuel costs, as this stuff would be very expensive to ship. I will not drop these off at your shipper, accepting your check for more than the amount, and send you that difference, I don't care if you are the Prince of Nigeria!

Weirdly though, one of my old neighbours is the King of Rwanda and he's a lovely guy.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/king-rwanda-sale-emmanuel-bushayija-12443922

[Falcon69]

Well, it looks like the reels will fit 44 into a Large USPS Flat Rate Box. Cost to ship across US would be $18.85, OR....

24 in a Medium USPS Flat Rate Box, Cost to ship across US would be $13.60

They will not fit in a Small USPS Flat Rate Box.

So I guess I could package them up in Lots like that and see how it does. The Bigger rolls (Electrolytic Caps, etc.) Would maybe cost more, as those will need to ship in an even bigger box.

I will see what I can do as far as packaging them up. I could even sell them off in lots of 100 pieces too, to entice the little hobby guys, but, that's alot of work.

Plus, I'm not a big fan of eBay at all. They do not protect the seller. All the customer has to say is that the item didn't come as described, and eBay refunds their money, no questions asked.  The only way to avoid this, is to make it local pickup only.

[soubitos]

With all that volume you could setup a small e-shop my friend!

[Falcon69]

So, how would you guys package this stuff up? Just random? sell same reels (Same SMD Chips) together? Expensive chips as single reel, or mix in with others and set reserve? Sell in 24 Reel Lots? Sell in 44 Reel Lots?

[Brumby]

So, how would you guys package this stuff up?

That's going to depend on where you see the interest coming from.

I suspect your best chance is with the smaller customers - such as hobbyists - who will happily drop a few bucks on a box of 24 mixed reels.  How much?  I don't know - but $50 would get my attention.

I would pre-sort all the parts into lots that would be roughly similar in content and then tell people to pick one and take it.  No mix and match - or you will find the best stuff will be sucked out by the first visitors and you'll get left with unappealing dregs you won't be able to slip onto the back seat of someone's car while they're not looking.

Just my thoughts.

[DaJMasta]

A mixed bag approach would certainly get them moving, but would probably not give you a great payout for what ships out.  I think a flat rate box worth's makes shipping manageable and still sends off a good number of parts.


If you can find reels of particularly valuable things, maybe offer them as one offs, then throw the rest into mixed boxes?  Makes the mixed boxes a bit less valuable on average, but $50 for a box of reels would still be a deal.  You could randomize boxes altogether or mix them up and give an idea of what's in them.  Maybe group by size with passives?  I wouldn't expect a box of all caps or all resistors to sell any better than a full mixed bag, but you could try it.

[Falcon69]

eBay may be my only choice. I can try a mixed bag of parts, and a (resistor only) bag, etc.

To send all these, I am guessing about $750.  Where do I get that number?

Well, I checked USPS site.  To Ship from Oregon to the furthest point (Florida for example), is $75 per box at 30 pounds per box (Guessing here), there are 10 boxes, so $75 x 10 = $750

So eBay might be my best bet and split things apart individually.

it sucks, I did not want to really sell on eBay, because I can probably figure about half the sales will be refunded because of people saying, "Item not as described". So then I pay out of pocket for shipping item to them, and plus be out my item.  eBay is not what it used to be for sellers, It's great for buyers, but sellers get the shaft all the time. eBay always refunds money pretty much without questions asked, in my previous selling experience anyway.

[cdev]

Companies like Electronics Goldmine and Jameco offer so called grab bags of components like that.

If I were you I would sell it by weight, and have each package have a large variety of stuff. Not a super lot of any part. That way everybody is bound to get some gems along with some things that they might be able to use, might not. Try to keep unmarked things marked in some way (I would use plain plastic bags for passives, they dont need ESD protection) so people know what things are when they get them.

[DaJMasta]

If it helps, I believe if you sell as "for parts/as is" instead of as "used" you don't have any liability to refund anything... and "for parts" certainly describes random reels of components to me.  Ebay's still going to take their 10%, but you're going to get a lot more traffic than most places can offer.  If you can't sell as one huge lot, box sized sounds reasonable (whether that's flat rate or otherwise), but half dozen to a dozen reels at a time may be a sweeter spot for hobbyists, or for those who actually need one or two of the reels in any given lot, of course that means much more shipping effort on your part.

[Falcon69]

And PayPal takes their 10% as well.

I like the grab bag idea. But it would have to be reels, otherwise, it will take me for ever to package and label like 100-500 pieces of each in a grab bag.

[DaJMasta]

Paypal should be something like 3% plus a per transaction fee (under 50 cents), and if you're printing shipping labels through ebay you get something like a 20% discount from retail price on it (though the buyer is charged the full amount), so it's not quite that dire - still a lot of fees, though.

Though they're not exactly up front with it in their main login interfaces, I believe both can tell you the exact fees you'd pay before you actually make a listing or a sale.

[Falcon69]

You are right, except one thing...

Shipping fees are calculated into the final 10% cut that eBay takes as well.  Even if you charge exact shipping cost to the customer, you're paying an additional of 10% of that to eBay.  I understand where they are coming from, it's to stop people from posting items at 1 cent, and then jacking up the shipping to avoid the fees.

I'll start breaking them down soon and posting them I guess.  I can't seem to sell this as a lot unfortunately. I'm not looking for alot, but it seems it's scaring people away because they think I want alot. I'd take 3grand for it all right now, because I just don't really have the time to list it and I will be needing to move soon and don't have the room.

[soubitos]

I'd take it if it was free shipping LOL.. btw, 3k? all the good offers go to US of A !!!!

[Falcon69]

I know, right?!

It would probably cost 3 grand to ship to Greece! 

[DaJMasta]

It was mentioned in another thread a few days ago, but there are companies that will buy bulk components to inventory and resell.  You may not be able to get 3k for it, but it would be quick and easy, most likely.

[james_s]

You are right, except one thing...

Shipping fees are calculated into the final 10% cut that eBay takes as well.  Even if you charge exact shipping cost to the customer, you're paying an additional of 10% of that to eBay.  I understand where they are coming from, it's to stop people from posting items at 1 cent, and then jacking up the shipping to avoid the fees.

I'll start breaking them down soon and posting them I guess.  I can't seem to sell this as a lot unfortunately. I'm not looking for alot, but it seems it's scaring people away because they think I want alot. I'd take 3grand for it all right now, because I just don't really have the time to list it and I will be needing to move soon and don't have the room.

I remember when that was a problem. The thing is, the way they do it is complete BS double dipping. If I buy my postage *through ebay* they know exactly how much I paid for it and I can't cheat. It's absolutely ridiculous that they charge you a fee on the shipping even when you buy it through them, there's no excuse, it's pure greed and mafia tactics.

[Falcon69]

i agree, the way they get around this is because technically the shipping label is created with PayPal, and NOT eBay, two different companies, yet owned by the same.

It is definitely double dipping.

[james_s]

It doesn't matter if it's two different companies or just one, they know exactly how much I paid for postage, so there is no grounds for claiming that it's done to stop skirting around the fees. I can't pad the postage price if ebay knows how much I paid.

[iampoor]

It doesn't matter if it's two different companies or just one, they know exactly how much I paid for postage, so there is no grounds for claiming that it's done to stop skirting around the fees. I can't pad the postage price if ebay knows how much I paid.

Add the additional fee cost to your handling fee under the shipping options. Easy Peasy. 

[james_s]

That doesn't solve the problem though, ebay still charges a fee based on the full cost of the transaction. My point was that they could just as easily prevent padding by making shipping purchased through them exempt from the fees. Then I would be inclined to sell a lot more stuff, and I'd be willing to ship it worldwide, and they would make more money through volume of sales.

[CatalinaWOW]

This is a situation where people are getting their feelings involved. 

Ebay has a fee structure.  It is what it is.  If you have another market available that charges less you are welcome to use it.  There are many other options, and all have their drawbacks.

For example, here in the United States you have Craiglist, which charges no fees whatsoever.  But each listing only goes to one regional market.  It would take probably 150 (lots of work) or more listings to cover the whole US market.   Craigslist also comes with a very different clientele than Ebay, probably not in general more favorable to selling our kind of goods.  It also offers no assistance or protection for the transfer of money and goods.

There are many hamfests and swap meets.  Which charge fees for booths and have a far smaller customer base than Ebay.  And the customer base is generally pretty tight fisted.  You may or may not find a buyer for your widget at any price, let alone the price you want.

The real message is that you have to decide if you want to divest at all and what your goals are (make space, make money, meet people ...) and then pick a market or method that best achieves those goals.  There just isn't any point to complaining about the characteristics of the various markets.  The dump (or tip for those speaking that brand of English) might be the best option, and it is futile to complain that the dump isn't paying full market value for the things you are disposing.

[iampoor]

That doesn't solve the problem though, ebay still charges a fee based on the full cost of the transaction. My point was that they could just as easily prevent padding by making shipping purchased through them exempt from the fees. Then I would be inclined to sell a lot more stuff, and I'd be willing to ship it worldwide, and they would make more money through volume of sales.

It solves the problem for all practical purposes, the fee structure is defined in advanced, just add those additional costs to what you want to make. Of course they could do that, but you can also just charge more to compensate for the padding. I think this is an unfortunate case of the bigger dog "wins". 

FWIW: I dont really care for Ebay and only sell things on Ebay that will fetch silly prices vs craigslist.

[james_s]

That doesn't mean I can't bitch about it. I hate ebay and if it were up to me I'd make the double dipping they do a criminal offense but it's not up to me so all I can do is complain, avoid using them whenever a viable alternative exists, and badmouth them and their policies at any opportunity.

They could make more money from me and others if they would make more reasonable policies so as to not piss us off because I'd use their services far more but that's their business. Due directly to the fee structure I rarely sell anything there at all so they make zero in fees from me.

[Falcon69]

I agree. I rather sell on places like forums and craigslist (all though, sometimes with craigslist, you have to be armed....some crazy people out there).

Selling here (or other forums) and craigslist doesn't reach as many people, but, then again you don't have to jack your price up either, just to cover eBay's fees.  Ebay used to be better at protecting both the seller and the buyer, now, it's all about protecting the buyer.

So, with that said, let's keep the flaming down, we all have our views on the topic, let's just get back to selling!

[EHT]

eBay has its problems, but its easiest and has global reach.

I would buy if rather than selling per reel (1,000s of the same value - thus no use to a hobbyist) you chopped off a few lengths from many reels to give a mixed bag. If you found a suitable size packaging you could make up loads all the same size/weight to make shipping easier - you can lookup the shipping rates once and know that they'll all follow. This will give you a continual cash flow and be useful to people hanging out here!

[sokoloff]

I would buy if rather than selling per reel (1,000s of the same value - thus no use to a hobbyist) you chopped off a few lengths from many reels to give a mixed bag. If you found a suitable size packaging you could make up loads all the same size/weight to make shipping easier - you can lookup the shipping rates once and know that they'll all follow. This will give you a continual cash flow and be useful to people hanging out here!

I agree that would be a great service to us, but it sucks as the seller. He'd probably make more money throwing it all in the trash and spending the time he'd spend clipping 50 components off a bunch of reels and driving to the post office working at a Starbucks instead.

[james_s]

When I sell stuff like that I usually use USPS flat rate boxes, the small ones can hold a lot of small bits and the postage isn't too bad. You can pack and print the shipping at home, then either take a weekly run to the post office or request a pickup.

[Falcon69]

I could do something like that.

Cut 25, 50 or 100 off each reel, put them in a flat rate shipping box (small or medium, whatever they fit into), and charge something like $50, $100, and $200 for them plus shipping.

But, I would have to spend some time doing that and making the list to correspond with the number on each bag, which I would have to purchase some lbels and bags to put them in.

I could do it, would give me something to do for the next couple weeks.  That is, if people are interested in that.  But if I have to go eBay on this, I'll add the 10% on top of that and the 3-5% for Paypal (whatever that it is).   If we just want to do it through here, and pay with paypal (i think if you send as friend/family they dont charge fee?), then that would be great if we get enough people who want.

[Falcon69]

hmm, i just looked at list again....what I would have to do is break down the list by percentage, like if I have 5000 of one, then that would be 25 pieces. But if only 120 of one, that would be only 5 pieces of that one, to try and keep it all equal.  Like a percentage of the whole lot I listed in each breakdown. Then if you just want four of the packets (i.e. 100 of each as stated above), then just order four and I'd try and cram those into a small flat rate box (might be a medium), whatever. If I can shove as much into a small flat rate I can, if not, it would be shipping for what's in a medium box.  I'm not sure on how much shipping costs, I would have to know your country/state/zipcode after I know how much you want.

I'll look to see how much the labels and plastic baggies cost.  I don't need anti static, even for the Ferrite Beads and Electrolytics?

[Falcon69]

3x5 bags are 60.88 for 10,000.  That means at 10,000 and 900 different parts, that equals $5.48 per order it would cost me to bag them up.

I don't know if that's worth while then.  I'd have to raise those prices above abit.

[DaJMasta]

I think the bigger concern would be the immense amount of time you'd have to spend measuring out the right number of parts then writing on them what they actually are.  Even if you get quick and can do 10-15 seconds a piece for that.... that's still a minimum of several hours of labor if you're gonna do a thousand individual strips.

I would go with either full reels, big strips (like a quarter reel or something), or just sell whatever as a grab bag and not bother with dividing things up in any particular way.  Putting all the work in would get you a wider perspective consumer base, since it would be more appealing to hobbyists looking for a selection of parts but nothing in particular... but it hardly seems worth the effort.

[james_s]

When quantities available are large enough, it's easy to just estimate. Advertise 100 of a given part and cut off a piece long enough that it contains a few more than that, no need to count them precisely.

Whatever the case, grab bags like this need to be priced appropriately for them to move, pennies on the dollar compared to new components that can be ordered in exactly the values and quantities needed for a project.

[soubitos]

When quantities available are large enough, it's easy to just estimate. Advertise 100 of a given part and cut off a piece long enough that it contains a few more than that, no need to count them precisely.

Whatever the case, grab bags like this need to be priced appropriately for them to move, pennies on the dollar compared to new components that can be ordered in exactly the values and quantities needed for a project.

Actually you can cut tape by measuring it!
ie for 0805 parts, 10cm is 25pcs
All you need is a ruler, steady hands and a sharp cutter!

[Falcon69]

SO would something like this work in each bag to verify it's contents?? Or should I put in more info, like on the Excel Spreadsheet?

[CatalinaWOW]

I'd say that is a big plenty.  You are trying to balance your work to sales.  The market you are aiming for is used to buying floor sweepings and measuring each part to verify value and function. 

I don't know if you have tried contacting any of the large salvage purchasers to see if they want the whole lot.  Places like BMI Surplus, Electronic Goldmine, Electronic Surplus and All Electronics?  They won't pay much, but your work level will be dramatically reduced. 

[soubitos]

Falcon69.... How fast do you want to get rid of this stuff?
Why dont you make a page somewhere, post the excel since you got it, fix prices for 10-20-50-100-500-1000pcs-reel or something like that and post it here and in other forums etc you frequent... let people order directly from you, pay minimum fees (maybe 3-4?% paypal or whatever you see fit) perhaps offer shipping abroad too, ask for minimum order say 50-100$ to make worth your trouble and try to sell them at fair prices for you and the buyer! Do not be afraid if the "good" stuff goes out first, you can always sell the remaining items at a bit lower price on ebay...

[Falcon69]

I made a call to several of those surplus shops, made the call several times. They weren't interested (probably because of shipping), or they never returned my call or email.

I tried having a website once, it was a lot of work, and the monthly fees for that website took any profit i may have had. It's just not worth it.

And I would never buy something like these, and have to measure every single part because they were swept up off the floor. way too much work for something that, for the most part, costs pennies brand new.  Thats' why I will label everything to make it easier on the person receiving these. It takes alittle bit of time, but once I have the main page of labels done, just copy and clip is all. Easy Enough.

[Falcon69]

I'm working on getting these things split up into 100 piece lots. I'd rather try and sell them here before hitting eBay. I have no problem shipping them overseas, as long as the shipping is paid for.

I'll post up when I get them all packaged. Might be awhile, I am waiting on the baggies to come. At 100 piece lots, that is about 30,500 bags, so as you can see, it will take awhile.