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Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« on: June 25, 2017, 11:03:04 pm »
Hello Everyone

We are authorized distributors for Rigol and are located in the UK.  We have some ex demo equipment but I wasn't sure if anyone is interested in used or refurbished ex demo equipment. Would it be worth posting what we have on here with some prices? We would fully refurbish the units back to new condition including calibration  and all standard accessories.

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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2017, 11:44:30 pm »
Yes would u be willing to ship to us?
 

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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2017, 05:30:24 am »
Even if you do not ship to the US, there would be some interest from German engineers for example  ;)
 

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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2017, 05:35:11 am »
Would you ship to Australia?
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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2017, 05:51:18 am »
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We are authorized distributors for Rigol and are located in the UK.  We have some ex demo equipment but I wasn't sure if anyone is interested in used or refurbished ex demo equipment. Would it be worth posting what we have on here with some prices? ...
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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2017, 06:18:51 am »
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We are authorized distributors for Rigol and are located in the UK.  We have some ex demo equipment but I wasn't sure if anyone is interested in used or refurbished ex demo equipment. Would it be worth posting what we have on here with some prices? ...
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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2017, 06:27:03 am »
Would it be worth posting what we have on here with some prices?

Sure. But the level of interest will depend on the prices, of course... Compared to new units, there will obviously be the reduced warranty to consider. (I take it that, when selling to consumers in the EU, you would offer the 1-year warranty for second-hand goods?)
 

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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2017, 08:24:49 am »
Yes, would be interested to see / PM me what you have / prices , partic on entry level scopes eg sub 100mhz , 2 or 4 channel.
 

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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2017, 08:31:10 am »
Yes, we would like to see prices. However, be very careful about the quality. I've seen Agilent certiprime scopes, I couldn't see any wear on them. If you sell beat up scopes, with missing knobs or you sell it dirty, greasy... Most of us wouldn't appreciate them.
 

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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2017, 08:49:20 am »
Price dependent, yes of course we would.

It'd have to be a decent discount on new prices but I for one would be interested in instruments that are working, not necessarily bothered about accessories as I have mains cables, 'scope probes and wouldn't need a traceable calibration certificate as I can sanity check equipment to a 'good enough' standard for my needs and I'd be happy with functional but cosmetically poor instruments.
 

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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2017, 09:14:17 am »
I went to the OP's website and it looks very thin.... I feel this is a bit of a Spam/Phishing type thread???  Buyer Beware!

A quick trip in the Tardis gets you to... https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/big-rigol-sale-instruments-4-engineers/msg1081033/#msg1081033
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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2017, 10:19:20 am »
No, it looks to me the like the typical 19 century company, who has a website, but dont bother actually paying for it to have actual information on it. Has a steady customer base, they probably fax their PO over, maybe they send it with pigeons.
 

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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2017, 10:22:26 am »
To be fair, they're a pretty good company but they tend towards the professional end of the market.

Sadly when I queried a price of something last year, it wasn't a hobbyist friendly figure, it was a price that reflected the level of care and quality of the equipment they sell.
 

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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2017, 02:25:00 pm »
Hello Everyone

Thank you.

Regarding our website:  It's only a simple site up at the moment while we are working on completing the main website which we have set a goal of launching at the end of the year or Jan 2018.  Most of our business comes from existing customers and word of mouth.

I really appreciate the feedback as  I didn't know that our simple site would create that kind of impression on people who don't know us.

Nothing we sell is beat up.

 Regards to the ex demo equipment it's equipment that we bought to take out to customers  for demonstation purposes.   Some of the equipment hasn't even been taking out for demo because we assumed we'd need a demo but then found out that people were happy to buy off spec.    We will offer a 12 month parts and labor warranty but  depending on the age of the unit there maybe additional warranty available from Rigol.   We would still answer any questions you may have about the units or answer questions.

I'll come back with a list Weds afternoon/evening.

Regarding shipping: we will ship everywhere.

We do not have any of the low cost items like the DS1000Z series on demo.


Thank you for the feedback. I appreciate it.

Joy Torres
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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2017, 03:10:52 am »
As with any T&M equipment, depends on the condition, price, shipping cost, and anything else that is included (warranty, accessories, etc.). Thanks for the heads up.
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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2017, 06:24:42 pm »
 EX DEMO EQUIPMENT

All units are 1 year old or less and have either no use or very little use.

Warranty:

12 Month Parts and Labor Warranty from Manufacturer's defects supported by Instruments 4 Engineers.

 Remaining 12 months or more supported by Rigol in Germany.

We will ship all equipment back to Rigol for calibration, full test and will supply all units with brand new  standard accessories before shipping out to the customer. All units will be delivered fully refurbished and like "new" condition.   I've put the word new in brackets because technically units aren't brand new since they are ex demo units.   If you need clarification please let me know.


VAT would be additional on all the prices below.  Shipping& Packaging Costs is additional and depends where you live..

Payment Terms: Pre Payment.

Estimated Lead Time: Please allow 3-4 weeks . Realistically  we would probably deliver sooner  than this but I'd prefer to give a longer lead time and deliver sooner than a shorter lead  time and deliver later.

I've included the current new cost in the UK so you will be able to make an easy comparison.

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1 Rigol MSO 4024  200 MHz 4 +16 Channel 4GS/s  Mixed Signal Scope
  -  4 Months Old Never Been used Or Sent out for Demo
This unit includes all the decoding options on it. If interested I can see if Rigol will give us a free keycode to increase the bandwidth to 350MHz.

Price:  £2,480.00   Current New Cost £2945


2. Rigol MSO2102A 2 +16 Channel 2GS/s Mixed Signal Oscilloscope     5 Months Old. Never been used

Price:  £925.00    New Cost is currently £1056.00

3. Rigol MSO4014 4+16 100MHz 4GS/s Mixed Signal Oscilloscope  3 Months old taken out for demo once

Price: £2100.00    New Cost Currently £2423.00

Comes with free decoding options.

4. Rigol DSA832E  9kHz-3.2GHz Spectrum Analyzer -

Price:  £2,000. 00   Current New Cost £2,389.00

5.  Rigol DSA815  9kHz-1.5GHz Spectrum Analyzer
  - 6 Months Old - Taken out on 1 demo
Price:  £895.00     Current New Cost £1,022.00

6. Rigol DSA 832E-TG 9kHz-3.2GHz Spectrum Analyzer

Price:  £2,390.00    Current New Price: £2817.00

7. Rigol DSG815   1.5GHz Signal Generator  5 Months old taken out for 1 demo

Price: £1,360.00   Current New Cost £1607

8.  Rigol DS2102A  100MHz 2 Ch  2GS/s  Digital Oscilloscope
- 8 months old never used or demo'd

Price:  £751.00    Current New Cost £851.00

9. RIgol DS4014  100MHz 4 Channel 4GS/s digital Oscilloscope
  6 Months old taken out for demo twice

Price:  £1579.00  Current New Price  £1706.00

Free decoding options included with this unit

Thank you

Joy Torres
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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2017, 06:53:49 am »
In case anyone didn't see how ordinary this offer is, it's basically up to 15% off for refurb gear, based on what they determined as new price (not including VAT). 3-4 Weeks delivery with no mention of shipping cost.

Price:  £2480   New £2945  15.8% Off
Price:  £925    New £1056 12.4% Off
Price:  £2100  New £2423 13.3% Off
Price:  £2000  New £2389 16.2% Off
Price:  £895    New £1022 12.5% Off
Price:  £2390  New £2817 15.1% Off
Price:  £1360  New £1607 15.4% Off
Price:  £751    New £851 11.8% Off
Price:  £1579  New £1706 7.4% Off
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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2017, 12:43:24 pm »
Meh. Keysight's usual discount is 40% to 50% on recent models, but I've seen 70-80% on previous models. This is hardly a good deal.
 

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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2017, 02:51:20 pm »
  Sorry but we don't make anywhere near that kind of margin on Rigol equipment to be able to offer that kind of discount.   Also the  equipment we are offering is practically new.  Keysight, R&S etc do an excellent job at refurbishing their equipment before sending out  but it is equipment that has been used quite a bit beforehand.
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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2017, 05:11:28 pm »
I've seen signifincatly deeper discounts than that on the rigolna web site.
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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2017, 02:21:24 pm »
Rigol have just sent us an email today for sales beginning July 17th. I'll come back later and input the pricing. With the sale it's actually better to buy a brand new unit than our ex demo so I will probably remove that from the list for now. for the DSA832E series.  Also there is a sale we are running on the Rigol DP800 series power supplies

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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2017, 03:52:12 pm »
Which tells you, your ex demo units are priced too high.

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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2017, 04:03:45 pm »
Good Business:
1. Sell enough through good and clear pricing and supply contracts, product and repair support.
2. Get out a few demo-units that you write off on sales once you take them out of the box and book to demo ledger.
3. Sell Demo units with 40% discount, regardless of the margin new ones get, so that people don't feel ripped off.

Bad business:
1. Struggle to sell, because you're not competing on _any_ of the other points with companies in and near your country.
2. Get a few Demo units that need to stay on the sales ledger.
3. Try to shift Demo units at laughable discounts because you don't have the budget to write them off initially and complain about your small margins when people call you out on it.
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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2017, 11:35:30 pm »
FWIW, today, TEquipment are clearing out Rigol demos at 50% off and no, you don't get any other discount on top of that.

Couple of DSA815s left at $680.
 

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Re: Would Refurbished Ex Demo Rigol units be of interest?
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2017, 08:47:21 am »
FWIW, today, TEquipment are clearing out Rigol demos at 50% off and no, you don't get any other discount on top of that.

Couple of DSA815s left at $680.


That is an example of what people here would expect on ex-demo equipment.

 


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