"Scientists and Doctors Demand Moratorium on 5G"

[TheBay]

I'm transmitting 10GHz here, soon to be 24GHz
Shall I go warn my neighbours 

Also I'm Pro Nuclear, if I could legally and safely use Nuclear power at home I would.

[PrecisionAnalytic]

Here's a thought I had I posted on one of the blogs on my blogger: http://dewdetectionprojects.blogspot.com/2017/08/dewdetectionprojectsblogspotcom-first.html


Well, then there's the new 5G on the horizon... pun intended:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5G

Think LRAD (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Acoustic_Device) with Ultrasounic methods, Sound Blasters that are over PEP and SAR limits and not just acoustic hailing devices (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_hailing_device) and non-lethal tuned ranged systems noted in the U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command FOIA Request proving bio-effects of "selected" nonlethal weapons can be lethal if you read carefully:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3kLL6AnKjj5eVgyMnVhbjNGMEU/view or whatever the Cuban Embassy U.S. Diplomats and their families as well as others bombarded with the range of microwaves or lasers deal or dealt with (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embassy_of_the_United_States,_Havana and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Matlock_Jr.). 

I figure when doing the math; that the FCC reviewed (https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-347449A1.pdf) and approved 5G frequencies so that when some of those, as well as other WiFi, Cell Phone, WiMax, etc., are phased synchronized, mixed and combined equal the 95Ghz. 

95Ghz is the active denial frequency and one of the nervous system emissions of the human body that is not well disclosed.  the 95GHz and I think other GHz ranges are more directly connected with the human body though not well disclosed.  Like permanent damage can occur even with the 95Ghz system if over exposed or used incorrectly. I only found on GBPPR Zine #62 ( https://www.scribd.com/document/82073238/GBPPR-Zine-Issue-62) noting 95Ghz and one other site referencing a German (  "Bembenek P: Akupunktur und bio-resonanz (in German), CO’MED Nr. 6:50, 1998" article of reference. ) paper I haven't been able to find yet:  http://ieminstitute.org/_Resources/Articles/HEFmesurementRubik.html

Touch and other sensations can be performed remotely with sub-sonic and sonic range and I suspect ultrasonic range also.  Rasmussen's et.al. work goes into the subsonic and sonic details a little:  http://www.donmar.com/Tech/VIBRATION-BODY.pdf

Here are some new to me interesting articles found while searching:
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1503/1503.05944.pdf
http://www.dtic.mil/get-tr-doc/pdf?AD=ADA420638

Seems there are PEL and SAR limit issues that can be manipulated that are not well disclosed also with all the other wireless potential interactions where malicious operators can take advantage of.  Think focal point size, energy, power, bandwidth purity, frequency hopping including combinations, duty cycle, time of exposure, etc. Seems there are many variables left out of the equations. Definitely not NIST or DOC scientists working on the issues.

[Buriedcode]

I'm not sure what "government secret weapons" have to do with 5G.  In the same way cdev mentioned "solar flares" when we were talking about nuclear power - there may be a tenuous link there, but it seems it is mostly just used as a way to preach something remotely similar.

95Ghz is the active denial frequency and one of the nervous system emissions of the human body that is not well disclosed. 

I suspect it isn't "well disclosed" because it is fabricated.  You provide no sources for that snippet of information, yet sprinkle links over the rest of your post.

I'm not entirely sure what your post is about? it seems its a collection of half baked ideas about.. sonic weapons?  I do not doubt governments have conducted research into lethal and non-lethal weapons involving any number of "magic frequencies" with EM and sound, but they have also conducted research into psychic powers (lol).  I fail to see why you even posted.

[PrecisionAnalytic]

I'm not sure what "government secret weapons" have to do with 5G. 

I suspect it isn't "well disclosed" because it is fabricated.  You provide no sources for that snippet of information, yet sprinkle links over the rest of your post.

I'm not entirely sure what your post is about?

You didn't read the sources wording well enough to identify the lack of detailed six or lean sigma or even reference validation protocols used to validate efficacy, health and safety.  My post is about the potential malicious, or at least injurious, effects of 5G and the combination of wireless technologies when used in a directed energy or even overlaid combined phased synchronized weapon way and means.

Here is a reference with references:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER (Classified system that uses lasers, however masers exist in solid state also now days and don't need big dishes also to collimate.  At least the U.S. Air Force discloses somewhat of what they're performing. U.S. Army seems to cover up even sonic weapons used)
http://jnlwp.defense.gov/About/Frequently-Asked-Questions/Active-Denial-System-FAQs/  (note blistering has occurred disclosed)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5G

If I understand addition and subtraction maths correctly as well as combination and subtraction as in frequency mixers and harmonics and overtones; 26 + 28 + 39 + 3 (as well as other combinations of already approved existing infrastructure) = ~95GHz

These types of systems per FCC are allowed to cause interference in fact if you think from a public service perspective and as a user wanting to use frequencies they're both using as a licensed user is allowed to use. https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/97.203

Here are some more references to references:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency

Military Zips Lips on Pain Ray Accident
https://www.wired.com/2007/11/seven-months-af/

IRAQ WMD EVANGELIST'S NEW CRUSADE: SECRET RAY GUNS
https://www.wired.com/2008/04/ray-beam-used-t/

'RAY GUN' A LETHAL WEAPON, SAYS FORMER OSI AGENT
https://www.wired.com/2008/04/ray-gun-a-letha/

Pain Ray Injures Airman
https://www.wired.com/2007/04/pain_ray_injure/

 it seems its a collection of half baked ideas about.. sonic weapons?  I do not doubt governments have conducted research into lethal and non-lethal weapons involving any number of "magic frequencies" with EM and sound, but they have also conducted research into psychic powers (lol).  I fail to see why you even posted.

Well the basic kind of weapons systems that are disclosed to the public for non-official use (unclassified or declassified) are all pretty much heterodyne, pules train or more advanced mind control with some sort of frequency, energy, power, and duty cycle whether there is human body sympathetic resonance or just plain tissue damage by heating/coagulation/burning/ablating.   The sonic weapons are mostly heterodyne with some pulse train that are more consumer grade even and more well disclosed.  Therefore, think outside the frequency range of sub-sonic, sonic and ultrasonic in regards to carrier frequency, beam, ray, etc.

The limits are strange and I think not for the populations best interest in regards to health, safety, welfare and well being.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4629874/

Fiber optics are a better method as well as shielding our existing utilities infrastructure more.  Do the maths on the power lines emissions and how those can effect the body. Why aren't those used for communications more?  Why all the wireless craze when can be done in more cost effective ways like in amateur radio and public utilities models?

[helius]

Perhaps you should read the article. Your interpretation is prejudiced.

Wilfred,
The day your contributions go beyond being a troublesome busybody is when I will take your thoughts seriously. Until then, get bent.
Sincerely, helius

[borjam]

I have a 60 GHz point to point link now. It's awesome and it uses beamforming to adjust the radiation pattern.

It has several interesting properties.

First, it won't "enter" the homes of my neighbors because even a window is a big obstacle for a transmission with a wavelength of 5 mm.

Second, the beam is very directional so very little will actually reach the street below.

Third, transmission power is very low.

Fourth, at these frequencies there is an additional 15 dB/Km attenuation because of the Oxygen absorption peak.

So, nothing to see here. Carry on!

[Avacee]

Moratorium request or not OFCOM (UK Communications Regulator) has just finished part of the auction for some 5G spectrum at 3.4GHz (and some more 4G spectrum at 2.3GHz) raising £1,353,744,000 for HM Treasury.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/about-ofcom/latest/features-and-news/results-auction-mobile-airwaves
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43653418

Technically once the assignment bidding is done the winning license holders will be able to start using the spectrum straight away though it's not expected there'll be be usage until 2020.

[PrecisionAnalytic]

I fail to see why you even posted.

I hope you and others see why I even posted.

I want to add also there is the 60GHz range that along with any of the other ranges can have the potential for combination bands that can be phased synchronized with beamforming and potentially pencilbeam or other forms that are used for a variety of applications in the Defense Industry as noted below.

I also want to share some interesting disclosures in disclaimers from the 10K filings of most of the major players in the Telecom industry:
Corporate Company Investor Warnings In Annual Reports 10k Filings Cell Phone Radiation Risks

Issues to consider with the 60Ghz combinations and beamforming even though noted as safe when the beam isn't pointed at you or "typically" not penetrating walls:
WiGig Wikipedia

Beamforming Wikipedia

[Cyberdragon]

 That site should be questioned. They sound exactly like all other scaremongering hippies. They just yack and bend stuff to fit their rambligs.

Here's their "research page" https://ehtrust.org/science/research-on-wireless-health-effects/ You can read all that if you want, but it sounds like they're handpicking anything that even remotely supports their rubbish and ignoring everything else. How many of those studies even used actual human tissue? How many were repeatable? And how many accounted for all factors (IE ensuring corrolation equals causation)? Bet it will be quite a small number...

[borjam]

I want to add also there is the 60GHz range that along with any of the other ranges can have the potential for combination bands that can be phased synchronized with beamforming and potentially pencilbeam or other forms that are used for a variety of applications in the Defense Industry as noted below.

5 mm wavelength, won't go through a wall. Moreover, it has an additional 15 dB/Km attenuation due to Oxygen absorption.

I also want to share some interesting disclosures in disclaimers from the 10K filings of most of the major players in the Telecom industry:
Corporate Company Investor Warnings In Annual Reports 10k Filings Cell Phone Radiation Risks

Yes, and you can see mentions of "Acts of God" in similar filings, insurance policies, etc  despite the fact that something
that doesn't exist cannot appear as witness in court.

Issues to consider with the 60Ghz combinations and beamforming even though noted as safe when the beam isn't pointed at you or "typically" not penetrating walls:
WiGig Wikipedia

Beamforming Wikipedia

What issues? "Typically"? 

[Buriedcode]

I see this thread has been resurrected! It's a pity how quickly it went to conspiracy theories and pseudo-science :/ But I would be lying if I said I didn't find it entertaining - its amazing what people believe but don't always get a chance to voice.

[Eka]

Question to baffle any homeopathist: "You claim that the preparations are very potent, and the more they are diluted the more potent they become. So what is the LD50 dosage?".

Simple, 4.5 liters inhaled. Of course it's just as deadly as that nasty dihydrogen monoxide that kills and injures many every day.

[PrecisionAnalytic]

Issues to consider with the 60Ghz combinations and beamforming even though noted as safe when the beam isn't pointed at you or "typically" not penetrating walls:
WiGig Wikipedia

Beamforming Wikipedia

What issues? "Typically"? 

Did you read the Wikipedia article even?

Third paragraph in the wigig article: "The 60 GHz signal cannot typically penetrate walls but can propagate off reflections from walls, ceilings, floors and objects using beamforming built into the WiGig system."

So, oxides are going to reflect in a structure is your point as well as whatever the level of oxygen is in the ambient conditions?

Here is some food for thought: http://www.lonestarconsultinginc.com/mindcontrol1.htm#SCANNERSDEVICE   

You guys sure think you're smart at tech stuff and lack the skills to read... including patents regarding the devices capabilities identified theoretically and applied with other systems that can heterodyne, pulse train and other more classified mind control technology.  Let me guess... "A" students regarding whatever you're taught?

Like we're going to land on Mars, the Moon and just use rockets for projects like Discoverer and claim Corona, projects lead by Colonal Alexander ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Alexander ) and Major General Stubblebine ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine ) never existed even when disclosed as "non official" in locations not only on Wikipedia.  Oh yeah... the Manahatten Project was just for Nuclear Zombies like you guys for nuclear bombs only.    

  OK, smoke more whatever you're smoking or snorting. 

Why isn't the data you're referring to presented at all? 

[PrecisionAnalytic]

It's a pity how quickly it went to conspiracy theories and pseudo-science

I demonstrated conspiracy fact also and science.    

Pity is those who believe they know everything there is to know when you know there are sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI), Top Secret, Secret and Classified Security Clearances with blatant torture exposed in the media.  Mass murdering also. 

Some have more than a six month Single Scope Background Investigation (SSBI).

It's like you don't think certain agencies even existed or still exist and all the disclosure is so you can enjoy your pampered lifestyle.

So, you're going to tell me that chemical, biological and kinetic energy weapons are the only weapons that are used and in fact can be improvised from commercial off the shelf (COTS) items for more than irritating?  

[PrecisionAnalytic]

Also, think how much energy or power the human body takes to function and the lack of clarity that this paper demonstrates in regards to outside the frequency ranges demonstrated:
http://www.measurement.sk/2005/S2/Lipkova.pdf

Where is the data on this other range of human body resonance frequency either emission, reflection, absorption or transmission from DC to Cosmic Radiation.  The info is rather hit and miss... pun intended.

[borjam]

Issues to consider with the 60Ghz combinations and beamforming even though noted as safe when the beam isn't pointed at you or "typically" not penetrating walls:
WiGig Wikipedia

Beamforming Wikipedia

What issues? "Typically"? 

Did you read the Wikipedia article even?

No need, I am reasonably familiar with the subject.

Third paragraph in the wigig article: "The 60 GHz signal cannot typically penetrate walls but can propagate off reflections from walls, ceilings, floors and objects using beamforming built into the WiGig system."

So, let's do a mental experiment. You are at home. Your window is closed.

And an evil neighbor like myself sets up a 60 GHz link. RUN FOR COVER!!!!

The link uses beamforming. Now, what do you think beamforming is for? Sending radiation and wasting energy all over the place, or focusing as much energy as possible on the receiving antenna? You caught me! Us evil hollow-earthlings are in a mission to change your thoughts with microwave radiation beams!

Now, seriously. The beam is mostly focused on the receiving antenna. Little will bounce. But alright, let's assume some will bounce. Will it cross your windows? Very little because even a glass is a serious obstacle for radio waves with a 5 mm wavelength.

So, oxides are going to reflect in a structure is your point as well as whatever the level of oxygen is in the ambient conditions?

No, my point is this. For a 60 GHz transmitter, our atmosphere (transparent to visible light, etc) is like dark smoke, attenuating it a lot. What it means is, 60 GHz is an especially harmless frequency because transmissions attenuate much more than similar transmissions at, say, 50 or 70 GHz.

You guys sure think you're smart at tech stuff and lack the skills to read... including patents regarding the devices capabilities identified theoretically and applied with other systems that can heterodyne, pulse train and other more classified mind control technology.  Let me guess... "A" students regarding whatever you're taught?

This reminds me of the people who claims that telepathy exists. It doesn't, but humans have been clever enough to exploit radio waves. Mind control? The only mind control technologies I know, which are terrifyingly effective, are Facebook and Twitter.

[PrecisionAnalytic]

And an evil neighbor like myself sets up a 60 GHz link. RUN FOR COVER!!!!

The link uses beamforming. Now, what do you think beamforming is for? Sending radiation and wasting energy all over the place, or focusing as much energy as possible on the receiving antenna? You caught me! Us evil hollow-earthlings are in a mission to change your thoughts with microwave radiation beams!

Now, seriously. The beam is mostly focused on the receiving antenna. Little will bounce. But alright, let's assume some will bounce. Will it cross your windows? Very little because even a glass is a serious obstacle for radio waves with a 5 mm wavelength.

Sure, when following specification and no classified operations, hacked systems or unlawful activity.  I don't think you're the evil neighbor that will identify free bandwidth, collimate energy in phase synchronized ways to form combination bands that total 95GHz or a sympathetic human body resonance frequency that will adversely effect body function or torture.  However, there were people in history that when given the harvesting or whatever tools... use the tools for unreasonable serial killing in fact.

No, my point is this. For a 60 GHz transmitter, our atmosphere (transparent to visible light, etc) is like dark smoke, attenuating it a lot. What it means is, 60 GHz is an especially harmless frequency because transmissions attenuate much more than similar transmissions at, say, 50 or 70 GHz.

This reminds me of the people who claims that telepathy exists. It doesn't, but humans have been clever enough to exploit radio waves. Mind control? The only mind control technologies I know, which are terrifyingly effective, are Facebook and Twitter.

The frequencies are not harmless and have been proven to cause harm when used to cause harm.  That is why there are limits in specifications for exposure???  I'm not saying typical operation is going to be the issue.  Kind of like RF burns most won't experience or burned or blinded by a laser or maser.  However, some have been and can be maimed if not worse like from ablation and not just cauterization.

Read some of my first links in this instructable I wrote up to detail more.  I was even surprised in my research for find synthetic telepathy and mind control does exist ( & ) and even weapons to cause heart attacks, vomiting, looseness, etc. ( http://defaakto.com/2018/11/24/mysterious-health-attacks-against-u-s-canadian-diplomatic-embassy-staff-cuba-china-an-open-source-intelligence-study-by-de-faakto/ ). 

Some of the microwave technology as a weapons goes back to the 50's in the Soviet Union.  They did medicine work with Microwaves also... so we can figure like radiation therapy done wrong... more injury, maiming and death can occur.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Signal

With the classified technologies, the technology capabilities and performance are smeared with disinformation tactics like UFO's, Aliens and other topics that are controversial when used unlawfully.  UFO's are Unidentified Flying Object's and Alien's don't have their Green Cards or whatever is required in the country they are not a citizen of for example.

https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Make-a-Directed-Energy-Weapon-Detection-Sys/  (For easier reading of the links in the article, right click the links and select open link in new tab since the WYSIWYG editor isn't processing the syntax when coding the mouse over to do so)

[tggzzz]

https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Make-a-Directed-Energy-Weapon-Detection-Sys/  (For easier reading of the links in the article, right click the links and select open link in new tab since the WYSIWYG editor isn't processing the syntax when coding the mouse over to do so)

That instructable starts

This is my first instructable and I am victim of a malicious destruction of personality and property as well as an assault with intent to maim, murder and unreasonably serial kill experience forensically clean worse I think than the U.S. Diplomats, Staff and Family experienced in Cuba and other Embassies other than what I've read and watched regarding Moscow starting in the 1950's and in the modern era there and in the U.S.

Should we conclude that the author has built a working device, and that he has adopted sufficient safety precautions when testing his weapon?

[Buriedcode]

I know I shouldn't reply, especially as I am not an expert in RF/microwaves, nor 5G, but I'm still fascinated with what people believe.  PrecisionAnalytic, you always seem enthusiastic and clearly have taken the time to collect information and links so regardless of whether or not I agree with you, I do thank you for your time.

I'm surprised you came back to post.  Whilst the technology of higher-frequency comms has been discussed, I see you're still making a few assumptions here.  The first is that a powerful organisation, like a government has both the capability and motive to harm its citizens using unproven technology, that is kind of hard to set up, to cause minor inconveniences to individuals.  And that they are going to use is, presumably to cause inconvenience to... who exactly?  It really does sound like a LOT of effort, (and time, money resources) to inconvenience individuals when simply arresting them would be much easier.

This is what I dont' get about the conspiracy theorists who believe in mind control, energy weapons, and stealthy control technologies:
a) who is important enough to warrant such an elaborate and expensive (because it'll cost lots of man-hours to set up) campaign of harassment?
b) why use bizarre and not-very-effective methods with inefficient/ineffective/unproven tech when simply arresting someone or planting evidence would be more effective and "silencing" someone (who presumably is an enemy of the state?).

It's all well and good focusing on the technology and how it can be abused - like all technology. But you need to think about these things practically rather than making the above assumptions - starting by assuming that bad men are out to get you with exotic weapons, then working out what those weapons are.   I've not doubt one would weaponise microwave/RF weapons, its just that aside from surveillance/jamming they tend to be completely impractical.

A little knowledge is dangerous because you pick and choose which parts to believe that support your ideas, whilst ignoring details that make your presumptions look silly.  This is particularly bad when people read up about cancer - assuming because cancer requires glucose, that sugar is causing cancer (hint: ALL cells require glucose).  It is cherry picking bits and pieces and building a whole narrative that makes you feel like you've uncovered some grand conspiracy, or something that explains your problems/failures.  It is very appealing and many fall into that trap.  But you need to take a step back and ask yourself - is this bollocks?

[MrW0lf]

The first is that a powerful organisation, like a government has both the capability and motive to harm its citizens using unproven technology, that is kind of hard to set up, to cause minor inconveniences to individuals.

Welcome to reality, might not like it however:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3154555/How-British-government-carried-secret-biological-warfare-tests-London-Tube-passengers-1960s-Cold-War.html
Word "minor" is also not suitable sometimes. As for "individuals" sufferer often has no idea are his problems personal or he is from some larger set.

[tggzzz]

The first is that a powerful organisation, like a government has both the capability and motive to harm its citizens using unproven technology, that is kind of hard to set up, to cause minor inconveniences to individuals.

Welcome to reality, might not like it however:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3154555/How-British-government-carried-secret-biological-warfare-tests-London-Tube-passengers-1960s-Cold-War.html
Word "minor" is also not suitable sometimes. As for "individuals" sufferer often has no idea are his problems personal or he is from some larger set.

Since you aren't in the UK, you probably aren't aware that the "Daily Wail" is sold to middle-aged not-highly-educated women who are accurately described as "worried well".

The Daily Wail’s hyperbolic contribution to classifying things as either causing or curing cancer (or both) is legendary, spawning the Kill or Cure website.

Infamously the Wail moaned that a chemical had been found in food, so why hadn't the EU banned it? Since it would have destroyed their story, the Wail omitted to note that the EU had banned it five years earlier!

Overall the first rule w.r.t. any Daily Wail story is to presume they have exaggerated or omitted facts, and to check better sources.

[cdev]

I thought this was kind of interesting!  The density they want to install for these high power pulsed base stations is potentially very high. They will use beamforming to focus the multiple beams on handsets and other devices (machine to machine communications is expected to be a major part of 5G, for example, autonomous vehicle control, highways and roads where all cars are autonomous.)

This may end up meaning exposure to RF could be several orders of magnitude higher than todays.

https://www.rcrwireless.com/20161020/network-infrastructure/att-outlines-5g-network-architecture-tag4

From what I have gathered from the literature the main effects of RF besides heating involve the creation of reactive oxygen species or "free radicals".

One of the current theories of aging involves free radical exposure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-radical_theory_of_aging

Hence, there is lots of research along these lines going on..
Evaluation of the Neuroprotective Potential of N-Acetylcysteine for Prevention and Treatment of Cognitive Aging and Dementia
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29182711

(and other antioxidants)

Look on pubmed if you want to read lots of scientific papers on this. I think that the #1 thing thats is worrisome to me is the creation of free radicals because that depletes the body of glutathione which is a finite resource. Also cell division after free radicals cause programmed cell death is a finite resource. (See the Hayflick Limit, etc. ) If 5G is using up this finite resource it may be shortening lives.

Given that many experts say we don't 'need' the extra capacity thats being pushed on us in the 5G proposals,

CEO: We Don't Need 5G for U.S. Cellular Fixed Wireless, LTE Will Work Just Fine - Telecompetitor
http://www.telecompetitor.com/ceo-we-dont-need-5g-for-u-s-cellular-fixed-wireless-lte-will-work-just-fine/

I think it would be wise to wait a bit until more is known.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=5G+radiation
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=5G+safety
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=5G+glutathione

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=cellular+safety

and so on..

[tggzzz]

I thought this was kind of interesting!  The density they want to install for these high power pulsed base stations is potentially very high. They will use beamforming to focus the multiple beams on handsets and other devices (machine to machine communications is expected to be a major part of 5G, for example, autonomous vehicle control, highways and roads where all cars are autonomous.)

This may end up meaning exposure to RF could be several orders of magnitude higher than todays.

Numbers, not adjectives, please.

Note that beamforming increases peak power at the receiver, but reduces power elsewhere.

[MrW0lf]

Since you aren't in the UK, you probably aren't aware that the "Daily Wail" is sold to middle-aged not-highly-educated women who are accurately described as "worried well".

Quite possible. Story just fitted the general pattern:

https://www.keithameyers.com/research/

Some Unintended Fallout from Defense Policy: Measuring the Effect of Atmospheric Nuclear Testing on American Mortality Patterns.
https://www.keithameyers.com/s/MeyersFalloutMortalityWebsite.pdf

At the end of the day, why should people in power care? If they would care they would not be at power. It takes specific mindset to fight for your place up top. It has very little in common with layman mindset. Not not mention pretty double standard behaviour of human species as general. Japanese eat dolphins. Dolphins are pretty intelligent. I consider it very f... up to eat them. Yet for them it's ok. On the other hand most of us eat pigs, which also are pretty intelligent. But no problem with that somehow. Now suppose NASA spaceship lands on planet inhabited with intelligent dinosaur species, which is smarter than us and manages to live in harmony with nature. How long until they will be in the middle of burger? I sure do hope something watches us and makes sure we do not propagate anywhere. Anytime someone feels like propagating out of strict limits suggest imagine yourself as god for a moment and consider that 100% of your thoughts will directly modify reality. How long until total chaos, 10s, minute at max? Now with tech not far from magic anymore how long until people at power who like measuring up to gods do some irreversible mistake? Any bets?

[cdev]

Just a correction of what the bandwidth and spectrum range of 5g will be and a few other points.

4G currently operates from 2 to 8 GHZ,

5G, on the other hand, will operate in the frequency range of 600 MHz to 71 GHz (US)

Source:
5gAmericas.org "5G Spectrum Recommendations" August 2015. 5G_Americas_Spectrum_Recommendations_for_the_U.S_Final.pdf (undated)



 Its totally unlike any system in use today that I know of, in many respects, it seems to me. Both in terms of power + signal density and network capacity.  (This is why I think its also going to be able to function in many areas as a source of power for low power networking devices via a rectifying antenna mechanism. I actually think that is likely to be an intended use case. Many devices might be able to benefit from having always available power, if it enables continuous operation without ever needing battery replacement.) 

If you read the proposed uses you'll see that what is anticipated is a world of self maintaining, self repairing, self refilling products, where even the most mundane devices and throwaway items, of all possible kinds are networked, have unique IDs, carry service contracts which require constant communication, and constantly order replacements for their consumables, etc. themselves.

Leaving nothing to the consumer/ratepayer to do/refill/repair except consume and pay rates/taxes or whatever.

Just completely different than anything that exists today.

Its the world as envisioned in corporate executives wet dreams. Every product has tie ins.

They probably also will be loaded with DRM.   All of this tech seems to be likely to make it difficult or even illegal to re-activate them when they shut off and attempt to contact the mother ship for one or another reason.

Like printers that refuse to allow the user to refill ink themselves, demanding that the manufacturers overpriced cartridges or computers that cant be fixed because the manufacturers individually serialized parts must be used despite other parts with identical function being available for a fraction of the price.

So, what will happen is the 5G system may become a vehicle to deny users of every possible product any right to repair.