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Offline NevDickens

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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2015, 07:50:30 am »
 :-DD     That's a NewZealand add not made in Austraya. Bloody funny ad though.   :popcorn:
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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2015, 09:14:42 am »
"many of our vowels are lazily transformed into other vowels, especially 'a's to 'e's (stending) and 'i's (New South Wyles) and “i”s to “oi”s (noight).”

The good old English word I'm thinking of is "Bollocks"!

I have never heard anyone say anything that sounded to an Australian ear like "New South Wyles"

The sentence "I  watched Whales while I was in New South Wales " spoken by an Australian is understandable by other Australians,New Zealanders,South Africans,intelligent Brits,& many others.

"Night" is not pronounced the same as "quoit".

This is the sort of crud which has been brought up for more than a century by some English people & by "artificial Poms" in Australia.

The kinds of English people who promote this are usually the same group that pronounce "horses" as "horse is".

The real reason for the Australian accent is that early Colonial Australia was a far more cosmopolitan society than many parts of the "Home Country",& people from various parts of the world had to understand each other.

The upshot was a standard way of pronunciation,as Australians could not afford differentiation in accent between regions,social status,etc.
 

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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2015, 09:17:43 am »
Is this the one that sounds like a Russian trying to speak English?  ;D

Close enough:

 

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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2015, 09:23:49 am »

The good old English word I'm thinking of is "Bollocks"!




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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2015, 09:34:53 am »
Reminds me of this:
 

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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2015, 09:42:41 am »
Just curious, what second languages do English native speakers learn?

American ;)
 

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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2015, 09:47:53 am »
A person I know (Australian, first language was English) studied Japanese as their second language   :popcorn:
 

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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2015, 09:55:38 am »
Just curious, what second languages do English native speakers learn?
Almost always the wrong one, which is a large part of why native English speakers show little enthusiasm for learning a second language at school. At school I had to sit through French, German and Latin classes. The first foreign language I ever had any use for was Cantonese.
 

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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2015, 10:44:53 am »
Duh the Australians live on the other side of the earth. Hold any person upside down and listen how he speaks  ;)
 

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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2015, 10:47:53 am »
Just curious, what second languages do English native speakers learn?

Bad English, worse English, and atrocious English.
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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2015, 11:40:23 am »
Just curious, what second languages do English native speakers learn?

Whatever they want, I guess? I speak Italian since my family is from Italy.
 

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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2015, 11:57:48 am »
They try to shove Spanish down everyone's throat here.
 

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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2015, 12:32:49 pm »
Just curious, what second languages do English native speakers learn?

Bad English, worse English, and atrocious English.

Not only do I speak bad English, worse English and atrocious English, but because I am from New Jersey, I speak 'Joisey'  :-DD
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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2015, 12:56:12 pm »
Just curious, what second languages do English native speakers learn?

Bad English, worse English, and atrocious English.

Not only do I speak bad English, worse English and atrocious English, but because I am from New Jersey, I speak 'Joisey'  :-DD

I'm an Italian from New York living in New England....yeah, I blend right in. I feel bad for my father, who is legally blind...he can't see half of what I say.

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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2015, 10:07:23 pm »
Just curious, what second languages do English native speakers learn?

My kids take Spanish in school (southern California). I assume it is the same all over the US?
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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2015, 10:55:03 pm »
Just curious, what second languages do English native speakers learn?

Quite some years ago now, but when I started high school in the early 90s there was only French as an option (which I took for 3 years, but remember little of now), by the time I finished a few years later they had brought in Japanese and Spanish. 

Oh, actually, of course, there was Maori, but that was really more of a wider cultural study than language study, and very few of the Pakeha took it after the completing the compulsory studies which was really more awareness of legends and customs etc than spoken word. 

I hated Maori classes, because they always started with a f'ing Karakia (prayer), as a lifelong atheist, it just really got me off on the wrong foot.




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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2015, 11:13:50 pm »
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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2015, 02:35:19 am »
Not only do I speak bad English, worse English and atrocious English, but because I am from New Jersey, I speak 'Joisey'  :-DD
Oh no.... there goes the neighborhood.   :palm:  :-DD

FWIW, I studied German as a second language. But it's been so long since I've used it, I doubt I could even keep up with a 4 - 5 y/o these days.  :P
 

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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2015, 03:14:53 am »
Just curious, what second languages do English native speakers learn?
Almost always the wrong one, which is a large part of why native English speakers show little enthusiasm for learning a second language at school. At school I had to sit through French, German and Latin classes. The first foreign language I ever had any use for was Cantonese.

Seems like everyone in US speaks some sort of Spanish, guess it might be too many Mexicans here. In the McDonalds closest to my place all employees are speaking Spanish with each other.

BlueSkull,

I recall a movie stars being interviewed about Tibet as some military action was on going during his trip, I recalled his saying: "I understand China and the Chinese, I spend 3 days in Beijing..."

I think you said you are living in California LA area.  America is a large country.   What is going on around LA is not reflective of the entire country.    From region to region, people talk different, act different, and even look different.  Most Northerner can tell a Chinese from Texas just by his look and the way he carry himself.

My kid grew up in the north-east.  As such, like you, largely coastal.  So, I often remind her: until you spend some time in the "fly over country", you don't yet understand most of America.  Try visiting the mountain states, the mid west, the south, the Appalachian, the Ozarks...  All those regions are distinct.  I hope you will find the opportunity to see the rest of America some day.  It will give you a different view of what is America.

(Now after half a page of how the answer wont apply...)

As to your question, around big cities, probably a lot of them do learn Spanish.  Elsewhere, Latin, French, German and Mandarin are very popular second languages.  Based on friends from Alaska and Hawaii, I believe Japanese is perhaps the most popular second language there.
 

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Re: Australian accent is a product of early settler's heavy drinking
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2015, 09:26:02 am »
As a kid, I learned a bit of Latin, a bit more French, and later in life some Malay/Indonesian.
None of them are worth a toss in daily conversation, but French and Latin give you great understanding of where English came from, and more importantly - how too use it dynamically / fluidly...

I was also lucky that I schooled on two continents in three countries.

I taught my kids the fundamentals when they were younger (just the principles), and it paid off big time - as - and they studied German in junior high - now they have exrensive vocabularies, and travel with new languages very easily...

I guess we're all different in different situations.
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