Author Topic: Barry Lewis [MyVirginKitchen] almost burns down his kitchen...can you guess why?  (Read 1323 times)

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Offline Halcyon

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I love Barry's channel, but oh my! Even Big Clive commented.

Barry: Stick to cooking mate. Avoid all electrical gadgets from now on.  ;)

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My very first thought was covered by Big Clive.

I'm surprised he didn't check the voltage on the thing before plugging it in.  The US plug should have been a huge red flag.
 

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But he said he wished he had payed more attention to electrical stuff in school. If you don't know what to look for you will not find it. Also, he bought an adapter...
 

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What an utter moron |O I'll be as politically inappropriate as it gets and I really don't care: I cannot find any bit of respect for an adult male who doesn't realize about voltage differences and uses terms like "power conversion... thing". And I don't care what kind of wizard he could or could not be in the kitchen.
 
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I agree it's stupid but there is a catch here... they make 'real' 230 to 110 volt converters which almost look the same. It would have melted trying to power that toaster but still:

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I agree it's stupid but there is a catch here... they make 'real' 230 to 110 volt converters which almost look the same. It would have melted trying to power that toaster but still:



Yeah but I think it's perfeclty clear the guy is totally oblivious to the very concept of voltage.  And don't get me started on just standing there, keeping the camera rolling as the toaster emits actual flames and his kitchen fills up with dense smoke |O
 

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Are there no smoke detectors in kitchens in the UK? Unless I missed it.
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He pulled out the batteries as soon as he noticed the smoke. He actually says that in the video's subtitles.
 

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He pulled out the batteries as soon as he noticed the smoke. He actually says that in the video's subtitles.

Thanks for that must have missed it.
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And don't get me started on just standing there, keeping the camera rolling as the toaster emits actual flames and his kitchen fills up with dense smoke |O
But the sticker told him to expect smoke the first time. That's why he tried a second time. :-)
 

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Not sure if this is Big Clive's thing, but it's definitely Mr. Photonicsinduction's thing.
I think he actually did this before using 300+ volts.
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Props to the toaster for taking double mains voltage and not failing with gusto.  That being said, for lazy grilled cheese, why a kitchen gadget? A convection toaster oven can handle just about everything toasting and baking related when cooking for one or two.One with a temp probe can even do meat perfect every time.  My favorite kitchen tool to make stuff easy.
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The person is really clueless... I used to live in a 220V region and the top thing that we used to check is the voltage.

Despite the grill did not blow up catastrophically, it is so cheap that it does not have a thermal cutoff switch. 
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Who sells new kitchen appliances that aren't suitable for the area you're in? The guy's oblivious, but that's not a very good move either. Selling unsuitable items is just a situation waiting for someone to do this, replace the plug or something similar with equally catastrophic results. There even was French on the box, which might catch a few people out.
 

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Who sells new kitchen appliances that aren't suitable for the area you're in? The guy's oblivious, but that's not a very good move either. Selling unsuitable items is just a situation waiting for someone to do this, replace the plug or something similar with equally catastrophic results. There even was French on the box, which might catch a few people out.

He probably bought it online.
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He probably bought it online.
I thought he went to "the shops" to buy it, but reviewing the video again it may just have been the ingredients.
 

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Who sells new kitchen appliances that aren't suitable for the area you're in? The guy's oblivious, but that's not a very good move either. Selling unsuitable items is just a situation waiting for someone to do this, replace the plug or something similar with equally catastrophic results. There even was French on the box, which might catch a few people out.

I was under the assumption that someone had sent it to him to try out or he bought it online.

The cluelessness about using travel adapters and voltage converters seems amazing to me, though.  Heck, my grandmother wouldn't have made that mistake and I don't know that she ever left North America and wasn't exactly a technically savvy lady, but she knew there were different kinds of power in different parts of the world.  :)

I suppose, though, that today there are so many electronics that don't care about anywhere from 90-250 volts so someone travelling abroad can just use a physical adapter to plug in their cell phone charger or something without actually worrying about the frequency or voltage.   :scared:
 

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Heck, my grandmother wouldn't have made that mistake and I don't know that she ever left North America and wasn't exactly a technically savvy lady, but she knew there were different kinds of power in different parts of the world.  :)

Maybe he was just not thinking.
My mom, majored in accounting, worked at Chinese government (my hometown's tax dept) as a dull office worker for 35 years, knows not to mix voltage.
Me, a professionally trained power electronics engineer, once plugged an ATX PSU set to 120V input (voltage doubler, not PFC) I'd been using in US to a Chinese outlet -- and a bang swiftly followed.
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I was under the assumption that someone had sent it to him to try out or he bought it online.

The cluelessness about using travel adapters and voltage converters seems amazing to me, though.  Heck, my grandmother wouldn't have made that mistake and I don't know that she ever left North America and wasn't exactly a technically savvy lady, but she knew there were different kinds of power in different parts of the world.  :)

I suppose, though, that today there are so many electronics that don't care about anywhere from 90-250 volts so someone travelling abroad can just use a physical adapter to plug in their cell phone charger or something without actually worrying about the frequency or voltage.   :scared:
I think the latter has contributed to people being less aware of the different voltages out there. People see other people use the same gadgets all over the world.
 

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Maybe he was just not thinking.

Well, he looked at the physical-only adapter he had in his box of adapters and thought, "This doesn't look right," then looked at the ratings where it said 3A maximum, went to the store and bought ANOTHER physical-only adapter instead of any kind of converter and then proceeded full steamsmoke ahead.  :o
 

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Well, he looked at the physical-only adapter he had in his box of adapters and thought, "This doesn't look right," then looked at the ratings where it said 3A maximum, went to the store and bought ANOTHER physical-only adapter instead of any kind of converter and then proceeded full steamsmoke ahead.  :o

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Well, he looked at the physical-only adapter he had in his box of adapters and thought, "This doesn't look right," then looked at the ratings where it said 3A maximum, went to the store and bought ANOTHER physical-only adapter instead of any kind of converter and then proceeded full steamsmoke ahead.  :o
You don't know what you don't know. It's not as if people have a feel for what an ampere is either. You need some experience for that. How it relates to voltage is a distant memory to most at best. People here really seem to have a hard time understanding how little most people know about electrics and electronics, but a large part of that is the bias we have here.
 

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|O

Indeed.  :)  If you watch any of that video, just watch the couple minutes starting at 4:07...

https://youtu.be/H66Fbg9nrk4?t=247

You don't know what you don't know. It's not as if people have a feel for what an ampere is either. You need some experience for that. How it relates to voltage is a distant memory to most at best.

Oh, I agree.  Fair enough, but he knew enough to go through the rigamarole of realizing his adapter didn't seem right, then went to the store and bought another wrong adapter.  :)
 

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My very first thought was covered by Big Clive.

Ah, yes...  I meant to quote that into this thread yesterday when I first saw it.   :-DD

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The best bit about this video is seeing you plug a 120V appliance into 240V without realising it, and then watching the horror unfold as the grossly overloaded appliance makes loud stressed noises and emits flames. The appliance doesn't just run at twice it's normal power, it's closer to four times the power. Good job. Very entertaining.

Vintage Clive.  Priceless!!   :-DD
 

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To add even more confusion, a lot of electronics from China are designed for 220-240V operation yet they also use the North American plug. bigclivedotcom has reviewed quite a bit of those.

https://www.plugsocketmuseum.nl/China1.html

I'm surprised the toaster caught fire, or it might've just been the bread/oil --- you can see when he preheats it without the bread that the thermostat popped and turned it off like usual, although probably a lot faster than at its rated voltage. All the toasters I've seen are thermally regulated so given a higher line voltage would likely just be done toasting sooner. This, of course, neglects the flammability of the bread and its tendency to char on the outside if heated too quickly.
 


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