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Offline GyroTopic starter

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Flash finally in the Pan
« on: July 25, 2017, 08:37:29 pm »
Adobe are finally pulling the plug on Flash... well finally being before 2020. Hopefully the final push needed for universal adoption of HTML5.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-40716304
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Re: Flash finally in the Pan
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2017, 09:23:58 pm »
The plug's already been pulled on my computers. I haven't needed the Flash plug-in in my web browser for quite a while now.

For those of you that still have the Flash plug-in, I recommend disabling it to see if you really need it.
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Re: Flash finally in the Pan
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2017, 01:13:09 am »
I thought they already pulled the plug on it like 5 years ago.

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Re: Flash finally in the Pan
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2017, 04:36:13 am »
I have pepper flash installed on Chrome. The only place that I think might be a tad of a sore spot for me is older flash based browser games. I mean if I want to play them I can just grab a VM, download the flash game, and play it in there isolated from the rest of the world. Flash can be as retarded as it likes in there.


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Re: Flash finally in the Pan
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2017, 10:15:40 am »
I've tried disabling Flash before but unfortunately it's still required on some sites, such as watching BBC, whether streaming in real time or not.

Whatever happened to the M$ version: Silverlight? It's still available for download, yet I've never seen a real site which used it.
https://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/

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That's BS, looking at the download page, the plug-ins are currently Windoze & IE only so it's no use as Android currently dominates the Internet. It will be supported until 2021-10-12, which is longer than Flash.
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Re: Flash finally in the Pan
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2017, 04:50:17 pm »


I've tried disabling Flash before but unfortunately it's still required on some sites, such as watching BBC, whether streaming in real time or not.

Whatever happened to the M$ version: Silverlight? It's still available for download, yet I've never seen a real site which used it.
https://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/

As with everything Micro$oft, there are much better solutions. And I don't mean the fruity computers.

I thought only a few streaming porn cam sites still used Flash.

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Re: Flash finally in the Pan
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2017, 04:56:49 pm »
I've tried disabling Flash before but unfortunately it's still required on some sites, such as watching BBC, whether streaming in real time or not.

Whatever happened to the M$ version: Silverlight? It's still available for download, yet I've never seen a real site which used it.
https://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/

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Create business applications that give users richer, deeper interactivity using the skills and tools developers already know and that work the same everywhere–without the usual IT hassle of deploying across multiple OS's and browsers.

That's BS, looking at the download page, the plug-ins are currently Windoze & IE only so it's no use as Android currently dominates the Internet. It will be supported until 2021-10-12, which is longer than Flash.
https://www.microsoft.com/getsilverlight/get-started/install/
Sky Go uses it as well as some other streaming sites.
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Re: Flash finally in the Pan
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2017, 05:02:01 pm »
Whatever happened to the M$ version: Silverlight? It's still available for download, yet I've never seen a real site which used it.
https://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/

you mean you never used ANY legal streaming website before 2015? It took a long time before netflix would run with HTML5.
the same for RAI, mediaset (the two major TV companies here)

just three little examples :)
 

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Re: Flash finally in the Pan
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2017, 06:56:12 pm »
I removed Flash from most of my machines and stopped installing it about two years ago. I've never had Silverlight installed on any computer and never ran into any site that needed it. It was just typical Microsoft "jump on the bandwagon" behavior, thinking they would dominate the market then failing.

HTML5 has pretty much taken over in the last couple of years and porn sites were among the first to dump Flash and switch to it.
 

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Re: Flash finally in the Pan
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2017, 02:50:09 am »
This scathing critique of Flash by Apple's Steve Jobs pretty much sums it up... and it's 7 years old but still 100% accurate:

https://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/

The nails were also being driven into Flash's coffin a long time ago. What is surprising is that it has lingered on this long actually.
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Re: Flash finally in the Pan
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2017, 08:04:03 am »
Whatever happened to the M$ version: Silverlight? It's still available for download, yet I've never seen a real site which used it.
https://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/

you mean you never used ANY legal streaming website before 2015? It took a long time before netflix would run with HTML5.
the same for RAI, mediaset (the two major TV companies here)

just three little examples :)
Not that needed M$ Silverlight. It was all Flash.

I still see an issue with HTML5: lack of source code protection. For most CS apps, no one cares since the logic runs on server, but for some local appliets such as games or other art-intensive cases, HTML5 offers virtually no IP protection. So now, with no flash, no applets, and no activex, how can developers protect their IP?
Does anything really offer IP protection? You put your code on the Internet and people can decompile and copy it. You're right, that it's much easier with HTML5 than Flash but where there's a will there's a way.
 

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Re: Flash finally in the Pan
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2017, 03:52:07 pm »


HTML5 has pretty much taken over in the last couple of years and porn sites were among the first to dump Flash and switch to it.

Funny, I used to do web development for a porn site and the owner forced me to learn Flash because to him it was the way of the future. He had no computer background (other than a short time doing hardware repair where he would call me 30 times a day to do his job for him over the phone) and no idea how to run ANY kind of website. I kept telling him to stay as far from Flash as possible, but he wouldn't listen. By the time I hit my breaking point and quit the site had a total of 1 paying customer.

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Re: Flash finally in the Pan
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2017, 04:35:03 pm »
It's a miracle people are willing to pay for porn but then I see Twitch.tv streamers earning 4 digits a day playing games.
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Re: Flash finally in the Pan
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2017, 06:56:09 pm »
It's not even about illegal downloading, look at all the free porn sites everywhere now. You don't have to "steal" it anymore.

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