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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #75 on: October 10, 2017, 01:22:53 am »
From someone who has been in the business making TV programs for more years than I care to mention.....

the main things are

Good Audio

Good Lighting

Steady shots

Good editing, keeping it down to only things that ad to the video.

The only other thing I would say, is get a camera that has a manual setting, especially the focus setting......I see more video's on YouTube with focus issues than any thing else.
 
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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #76 on: October 10, 2017, 03:52:10 am »
Vegetek,

Its not the camera that makes the video, its the IDEA and content which makes the video..


Red Squirrel,

what model camera do you have? Any "10 minute limit" sounds too arbitrary - it may be fixable.

I'd be curious about this too, never really owned a proper video camera before and do have a DSLR which is great for photos and time lapses but not that great for actual video, especially because of the time limit which is easy to forget to check up on if you decide to shoot something that will last longer than 10 minutes.   There's tons on Amazon when doing a search, from a few hundred bucks all the way to thousands.  Wonder if the ~$300 ones are decent or not.

I have the Nikon D7000.  Just remembered limit is 20 and not 10, but it is rather arbitrary.  Not sure if maybe it has to do with the memory, maybe it buffers to memory and then only writes to SD card after it's done, or something like that.  Dave also mentioned that they overheat, did not realize that but maybe that's the reason for the limit.  In general they probably are simply not built for it, from a cpu/memory perspective.

I have found that lighting really does make a big difference for quality too, like I've taken some misc videos outside, or of the moon with my telephoto lens and the quality is always much better than indoors with just normal lighting.   For short videos they definitely are viable.   I tend to have a tendancy of taking time lapses more than anything though. 
 

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #77 on: October 10, 2017, 03:56:15 am »
From someone who has been in the business making TV programs for more years than I care to mention.....

the main things are

Good Audio

Good Lighting

Steady shots

Good editing, keeping it down to only things that ad to the video.

The only other thing I would say, is get a camera that has a manual setting, especially the focus setting......I see more video's on YouTube with focus issues than any thing else.


Hahaha so true.  "FOCAS YA FAK!"   lol
 

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #78 on: October 10, 2017, 04:26:57 am »
I just read its because of a tariff.. the limit is entirely arbitrary and removable..

Have you read about this?

http://simeonpilgrim.com/blog/2012/03/30/nikon-d5100-video-beta-testers-wanted/

also

https://nikonhacker.com/index.php


I have the Nikon D7000.  Just remembered limit is 20 and not 10, but it is rather arbitrary.  Not sure if maybe it has to do with the memory, maybe it buffers to memory and then only writes to SD card after it's done, or something like that.  Dave also mentioned that they overheat, did not realize that but maybe that's the reason for the limit.  In general they probably are simply not built for it, from a cpu/memory perspective.

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #79 on: October 10, 2017, 05:26:08 am »
I think Dave uses a ball head for videos too, no other way to do flexible video shots with different angles. I added the Manfrotto flexible arm for overhead shots as well as all angles shots from over the desk where tripod will not do it.

I have external desktop mic because my laptop (or any laptop) doesn't work with the jack of external mics (the 3 poles one I guess) so to ensure everything works fine, I added a proper usb microphone.

Do I need anything else? should I order the parts or change them?

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #80 on: October 10, 2017, 05:21:49 pm »
I just read its because of a tariff.. the limit is entirely arbitrary and removable..
The tariff related limit is normally a 30 minute limit to meet EU tariff regulations. When cameras have other time limits they tend not to be arbitrary. They are frequently because on the limited cooling capabilities of the camera - i.e. the electronics overheats. This is especially true of 4k recording, where most cameras still can't cope with continuous operation, but its often true for 1080P recording too.
 

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #81 on: October 10, 2017, 06:14:18 pm »
I can definitely see 4k recording on a camera not meant for it causing some kind of problem.  You might be right. But also, that might be a way they get out of a discussion about an arcane area virtually nobody understands well. It also allows them to sell two cameras where one might do just as well, or better - with minor changes that would be unlikely to add much, if any real costs.

Unfortunately I am also running into limitations of my own (lack of knowledge)

As far as whether the cameras heat up more with firmware mods than without.. That would be interesting to know. I am thinking they probably have an internal temperature sensor somewhere.. so that data might be available???

Also, the tariff answer agrees with what I know about other EU tariffs.

I just read its because of a tariff.. the limit is entirely arbitrary and removable..
The tariff related limit is normally a 30 minute limit to meet EU tariff regulations. When cameras have other time limits they tend not to be arbitrary. They are frequently because on the limited cooling capabilities of the camera - i.e. the electronics overheats. This is especially true of 4k recording, where most cameras still can't cope with continuous operation, but its often true for 1080P recording too.
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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #82 on: October 10, 2017, 06:56:12 pm »
Ok, to sum up here is the (hopefully) full list:

Camera: Panasonic HC-v770
BOYA BY-M1 external microphone   
SanDisk Ultra 64GB microSDXC UHS-I card with Adapter
USB Microphone: Fifine Metal Condenser   
Tripod 60" tall (24$)
Cheap ball head (22$)
Screw adapters for the ball head (6$)
Bushing adapter for the ball head (7$)
Manfrotto heavy duty flexible arm (37)

Total price (with all fees) = 675 JDs = ~950$.

I couldn't find any Opteka 10x macro lens for Panasonic camcorders in Amazon, all of them are for Sony, Canon, Nikon...etc.

I really appreciate your help and feedback, just do it one more time and tell me your opinion about the final list in this post please. I am about to pay the dealer to get them. I just need to know if it is all good or is there anything else I should add or modify.

Best regards

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #83 on: October 10, 2017, 10:12:11 pm »
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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #84 on: October 10, 2017, 10:20:06 pm »
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Is that for the parts? you think they are nice and complete?

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #85 on: October 12, 2017, 06:21:24 am »
I have ordered the items now. thanks.

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #86 on: October 12, 2017, 06:44:58 am »
I'm not experienced with the gear so can't provide much advice, but for that price total, I hope you will be happy with the results.

Once you get everything setup as you like it, it would be nice to get your opinion on the new vs old setup.
 

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #87 on: October 12, 2017, 07:41:27 am »
I'm not experienced with the gear so can't provide much advice, but for that price total, I hope you will be happy with the results.

Once you get everything setup as you like it, it would be nice to get your opinion on the new vs old setup.

There was no "old" setup as it was just Nexus 4 smartphone with a 2$ stick that is so crappy. I had an IXUS175 camera which was horrible for the job, also had a cheap tripod which is too short to be useful.

So new setup will be absolutely better!

Anyway, I would like to take your opinion on one thing which is naming youtube videos.

I go with "VEGEteK #001 - title" like the eevblog videos but I see that very few channels like this and I am afraid it affects searching for videos. Should I remove tagging or continue with it?

I want to change channel name to "Raigeki" so what do you think about it?

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #88 on: October 12, 2017, 08:01:08 am »
Anyway, I would like to take your opinion on one thing which is naming youtube videos.
I go with "VEGEteK #001 - title" like the eevblog videos but I see that very few channels like this and I am afraid it affects searching for videos. Should I remove tagging or continue with it?

Number help with quoting old video, no need for the title.
But works either way. Name and number do take up valuable title space.

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I want to change channel name to "Raigeki" so what do you think about it?

I'm afraid that means nothing in English. You shouldn't have to explain your channel name.
Come to mention it, what does VEGEteK mean? and why the capital K? teK at least implies a tek channel.
 

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #89 on: October 12, 2017, 09:02:41 am »


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I'm afraid that means nothing in English. You shouldn't have to explain your channel name.
Come to mention it, what does VEGEteK mean? and why the capital K? teK at least implies a tek channel.


VEGE is from VEGETA and teK refers to tech. I originally wanted VEGEtroniX (referencing electronics) but it was taken by another user, so I had to change it. Raigeki is a Japanese word means lightning strike or lightning bolt, and it is a famous word actually. :-+ It is famous because there is a Yigioh powerful card holding that name... in case you played it. However, that has nothing to do with choosing it as a name... I choose it because I like it, simple as that.

About explaining the name, EEVblog is even more difficult xD. Like, what is EEV? now i have to dig around until I find that it is electronics engineering video blog. Raigeki is even more obvious xD. What is Afrotechmods? greatscott? w2aew? mjlorton? bigclivedotcom? lol NONE of them even makes sense  |O

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Number help with quoting old video, no need for the title.
But works either way. Name and number do take up valuable title space.

Yes I know but also it takes space and maybe affecting new viewer who do not know the channel. You can say "as I mentioned in episode 30..." which is helpful but as you said it takes a lot of space. Why you chose to have it?


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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #90 on: October 12, 2017, 09:13:23 am »


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I'm afraid that means nothing in English. You shouldn't have to explain your channel name.
Come to mention it, what does VEGEteK mean? and why the capital K? teK at least implies a tek channel.


VEGE is from VEGETA and teK refers to tech. I originally wanted VEGEtroniX (referencing electronics) but it was taken by another user, so I had to change it. Raigeki is a Japanese word means lightning strike or lightning bolt, and it is a famous word actually. :-+ It is famous because there is a Yigioh powerful card holding that name... in case you played it. However, that has nothing to do with choosing it as a name... I choose it because I like it, simple as that.

Sorry, neither VEGETA  or Raigeki  means anything at all to me, and I'd be pretty confident a majority of others who are not into Manga (I had too google the name)

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About explaining the name, EEVblog is even more difficult xD. Like, what is EEV? now i have to dig around until I find that it is electronics engineering video blog.

It's not the best name, and it's a name that was not really picked, it kinda stuck. But blog is obviously blog, pretty much everyone knows what a blog is.
EE is kinda obvious that it's, well, EE, as in Electrical/Electronic Engineer, the title of most engineers in the industry. It's in fact often called the "EE industry".
V is video, ok, not as obvious.

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Raigeki is even more obvious xD.

Nope, sorry. Do a poll and I bet you most people would have to have googled it.

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What is Afrotechmods? greatscott? w2aew? mjlorton? bigclivedotcom? lol NONE of them even makes sense  |O

The only obball one there really is w2aew which is his HAM call sign.

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Yes I know but also it takes space and maybe affecting new viewer who do not know the channel. You can say "as I mentioned in episode 30..." which is helpful but as you said it takes a lot of space. Why you chose to have it?

Because I thought that a video blog had "episodes", and it kinda made sense to number them.
 

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #91 on: October 12, 2017, 09:31:24 am »
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Sorry, neither VEGETA  or Raigeki  means anything at all to me, and I'd be pretty confident a majority of others who are not into Manga (I had too google the name)

neither does afrotechmods or greatscott. Same thing.

I guess the name will not have much effect, which is proved by these names of famous channels. Eventually you are building a brand name for your content and people will know it by time. This is my personal observation after all.

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It's not the best name, and it's a name that was not really picked, it kinda stuck. But blog is obviously blog, pretty much everyone knows what a blog is.
EE is kinda obvious that it's, well, EE, as in Electrical/Electronic Engineer, the title of most engineers in the industry. It's in fact often called the "EE industry".
V is video, ok, not as obvious.

Do you like the name? would you have changed it back in time? I mean if you have a nice name in mind, I guess you should go with it. Of course not now after +1k episodes.

Most companies actually pick irreverent names like Apple and maybe Android... eventually it sticks. I would like to think the same.


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Because I thought that a video blog had "episodes", and it kinda made sense to number them.

Would you change it if you knew this would happen? do you really prefer tagged or un-tagged for your current channel? I see very successful channels do not number like greatscott but others do number like voltlog. Both ways can get a lot of views and both of them can get nothing.

What do you recommend for me since my channel is still small?

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Also, what if you want to make a video series... how do you name it?

I go with:

VEGEteK #020 - PIC tutorials 01 [intro]
VEGEteK #033 - PIC tutorials 02 [IDE]

and so on... here episode tag number will do a lot of confusion! like first episode in a series will be #20 episode while the other one will be like #33! making a playlist is fine but this confusion will continue.





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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #92 on: October 12, 2017, 05:50:01 pm »
I go with "VEGEteK #001 - title" like the eevblog videos but I see that very few channels like this and I am afraid it affects searching for videos. Should I remove tagging or continue with it?

I want to change channel name to "Raigeki" so what do you think about it?

As someone who watches 100's of videos, I think you are on the right path by studying Dave's video naming.  I am amazed at how bad video names are even from big YTers.  Once people make a video they give no thought to the name.   EEVblog is easy to remember and see in the title.  The number is greatly useful.  If the video file is saved or copied somewhere else, Dave's videos are easy to spot.  Think how the files will look on a computer or in a search.  Use the full space for the title.  Try Google and see how the results are.  You can see Dave's videos immediately.  For most YTers, you cannot know who they are without going to YT.

Try and search for your own videos

I like (but many will disagree) are videos over 20 min.  YT has two time searches, under 4 min., and over 20 minutes.  I often search on over 20 min videos.

Another thing I like is "Playlists".  It takes time for you but it makes it easier for viewers. I am slowly changing links to Playlists in the YT List.

Regarding names, I can remember VEGEteK better than the "other" name.  I relate VEGEteK with a blender for vegetables (I think it is Vegamatic).  I can form the word VEGEteK in my mind (I could be wrong but I still can remember).  The "other" name I cannot form in my mind so there is no way I will ever remember it just as you will not remember "zdsertzdzy".  Maybe you could do videos on tech use for growing crops if tech is used to grow crops in Jorden.

I wish you luck and believe you are getting off on the right foot by studying Dave's methods.  Also you are lucky because you are getting some good free advice from Dave.

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First video from a series of tutorials for PIC MCU. This will be a practical course with code examples.


You posted this last May and there have been NO more so there is no series.  If no more take out the first sentence.

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #93 on: October 12, 2017, 06:14:13 pm »
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You can see Dave's videos immediately.  For most YTers, you cannot know who they are without going to YT.

I absolutely agree! You can search for "multimeter tutorial" but If you like a channel you wanna search for "EEVBlog multimeter tutorial", so you end up putting your favorite channel's name then whatever you need later on. Good point... Maybe the non-tagged videos are easier to find but when you have a good name that people know it will be easier to find your videos. I will stick with tagging.

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I like (but many will disagree) are videos over 20 min.  YT has two time searches, under 4 min., and over 20 minutes.  I often search on over 20 min videos.

I liked eevblog because it has educational values, which only comes with long videos. Channels like greatscott does not have any usefulness in many cases! yes! I know some people will not agree but think about it... what did you learn from a video showing a project done in 5 mins???! it is only to show off the project and eventually you will learn little info. eevblog is way much better, but other channels are more appealing to non-electronics people as they wanna see something spark and glow... but you and I know it is just an OLED display xD.


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Regarding names, I can remember VEGEteK better than the "other" name.  I relate VEGEteK with a blender for vegetables (I think it is Vegamatic).  I can form the word VEGEteK in my mind (I could be wrong but I still can remember).  The "other" name I cannot form in my mind so there is no way I will ever remember it just as you will not remember "zdsertzdzy".  Maybe you could do videos on tech use for growing crops if tech is used to grow crops in Jorden.

LOL, by VEGEteK I mean this: VEGE from VEGETA the dragon ball character (my favorite) which many people in real life know me by this name not my real name, and teK is from tech. I originally wanted VEGEtroniX (as "electronics") but it was already been taken.

Anyway, I like the name "Raigeki" a lot xD. It is a Japanese word which means lightning strike, just google it and you will find the famous forbidden YuGiOh! card with the same name... which is not the reason why I choose it.

People will memorize it by time... I am sure.

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You posted this last May and there have been NO more so there is no series.  If no more take out the first sentence.

I will continue the series for sure. I just need to plan it properly.

I have done a plan for an Arduino series for beginners, only 10 videos which I will put effort to make them good quality. I will do around 15 for PIC as it needs more explanation.

In my future plan (hopefully not too far), I want to make instrumentation series and P&ID video too. Adding to all of that is the occasional teardowns and stuff.

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #94 on: October 12, 2017, 10:18:47 pm »
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Sorry, neither VEGETA  or Raigeki  means anything at all to me, and I'd be pretty confident a majority of others who are not into Manga (I had too google the name)

neither does afrotechmods or greatscott. Same thing.

At least they make some sense in parts.
"Afro" is an afro, the symbol he uses for the channel, "tech" is tech of course, and "mods" is mods as anyone in tech will know.

great and scott are both easily recognisable words, and anyone who knows Back To The Future will know the reference.

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I guess the name will not have much effect, which is proved by these names of famous channels. Eventually you are building a brand name for your content and people will know it by time. This is my personal observation after all.

Yes, you are building a brand.
In my case EEVblog which I didn't like at first has become my "brand" and "EEV" can be used for other things like EEVacademy EEVdiscovery etc.
And also in my case when I started there was practically no one doing Youtube full time, it wasn't a thing, it was just for fun.

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Do you like the name? would you have changed it back in time? I mean if you have a nice name in mind, I guess you should go with it. Of course not now after +1k episodes.

I didn't like, it was just an acronym for Electronics Engineering Video Blog, but it stuck. I would not change it now because it's my brand, it's unique, and it's versatile.

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Most companies actually pick irreverent names like Apple and maybe Android... eventually it sticks. I would like to think the same.

In your case they are not great names because they don't mean anything to most people unless they know the gaming reference.
And also, and perhaps most importantly, they are already used.
e.g. You can't buy VEGETA.com or Raigeki.com
If people google these names then they likely won't get your website, they'll get gaming reference. It will be hard for you to get good SEO.
Heck, you can't even get the Youtube channel ID's because they are taken
https://www.youtube.com/user/vegeta
https://www.youtube.com/user/Raigeki

I would not use those names because of that, they are not unique enough.

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Would you change it if you knew this would happen? do you really prefer tagged or un-tagged for your current channel? I see very successful channels do not number like greatscott but others do number like voltlog. Both ways can get a lot of views and both of them can get nothing.

It doesn't make a difference, just chose what you like.
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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #95 on: October 12, 2017, 11:00:12 pm »
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great and scott are both easily recognisable words, and anyone who knows Back To The Future will know the reference.

I don't. :-//

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In your case they are not great names because they don't mean anything to most people unless they know the gaming reference.

Except that I didn't really pick it according to that reference. I just pick it because I liked the Japanese word and lightning (blue color..) in general. Simple as that.

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e.g. You can't buy VEGETA.com or Raigeki.com
If people google these names then they likely won't get your website, they'll get gaming reference. It will be hard for you to get good SEO.
Heck, you can't even get the Youtube channel ID's because they are taken

Perhaps you have a point but also greatscott does not have a link... he has:

www.youtube.com/greatscottlab since /greatscott is taken, and yet he is as you know. Also, "How to Mechatronics" channel name is "Dejan Nedelkovski" which is impossible to pronounce xD.

I don't think I can make a website now, I will get away with a youtube channel. Even for website I can go for www.raigeki.net or anything since .com is taken (could be acquired). As for youtube, maybe www.youtube.com/raigekiofficial could work. It didn't affect other channels anyway.

One downside is the google search thing, which maybe is not that bad.


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What name do you suggest? I cannot tolerate my desires! at all!

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #96 on: October 13, 2017, 08:14:53 am »
I think it's just as important - if not even more - to name the videos in a relevant way and use proper keywords.

This might be even more important for new channels, where there won't be many subscribers that get an update for your videos, but where people have to find your video by using search terms. When I search, I don't normally search by channel name unless it's a well known channel to me personally and I want to quickly find some video from that specific channel (channel search would work here too, but sometimes it's faster).

I think you can get some information on what is frequently searched by starting to type the keywords in the search bar. E.g. if I write "Laptop" I get "Laptop Unboxing" "Laptop Repair" "Gaming Laptop" etc.

There might be a tool that does this better. Channel creators will know. :)

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #97 on: October 13, 2017, 10:10:59 am »
Well, keywords are not really a great way to search as you could put a lot of good ones and still get nothing. One of my biggest traffic income is youtube search but also suggested videos! Some people watch videos about 4-20mA current loop or "big red button" and they have my 2 videos in their suggested videos... and they watch them.

I do put a proper video name, I will just keep putting channel name and episode number in it.

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« Reply #98 on: October 13, 2017, 10:20:09 am »
Well, keywords are not really a great way to search as you could put a lot of good ones and still get nothing. One of my biggest traffic income is youtube search but also suggested videos!

Yes, but for smaller less indexed channels those "suggested video" views will most likely be coming from your own audience watching your existing videos. That's fine of course, but it doesn't help you to find a new audience and get up in Youtube generic search results which is what you ultimately want. And that is where keywords are everything. And I don't just mean keywords, I alo mean words and phrases in the title and the description as they all combine in the magic algorithm.
 

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Re: Good camera for electronics youtube videos
« Reply #99 on: October 13, 2017, 07:46:40 pm »
And that is where keywords are everything.

I am always amazed how many YTers do not understand this. 
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