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Title: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: TwoOfFive on February 16, 2017, 08:10:03 PM
I am ashamed to say, yes, this is my bedroom/office. And I have managed to really screw it up.... It was at this point I realized I should probably clean this....

As a forum game, have you ever seen a worse off room, and for bonus points, is your room worse than mine?

Ahhh shit. I better get started. :P

(https://i.gyazo.com/605c00c9524c3b50c24b9c3e4e1515e9.jpg)

(https://i.gyazo.com/7cdc09e52bfb12682570276647461d2d.jpg)

I will post pictures of my room after the cleaning, I do have some pretty interesting stuff under all that, uh, stuff.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: vk3yedotcom on February 16, 2017, 08:58:44 PM
At least you can see some of the floor in one of the pics.

QST magazine sometimes runs a 'messy shack' contest.  Pictures at http://vertikal.biz/userfiles/file/MessyShackContest.pdf (http://vertikal.biz/userfiles/file/MessyShackContest.pdf)

Someone ought to come up with a ratings system for messiness.

I was initially thinking it could be in units like okta as used for cloud cover (0 okta = all floor visible to 8 okta = all covered) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okta (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okta)

There could also be average height of what's on the floor - eg ankle deep, knee deep, etc. 

But it would be more informative to include the type of mess.

Since a room full of electronic junk, even if knee or chest high, does not, in my mind, qualify for maximum mess.

Hence I propose the following objective scale of messiness (which if rewritten could be put to music like the 12 Days of Christmas):

1. Electronics & papers only

2. Electronics, papers & empty cups/drink cans only

3. Electronics, papers, empty cups/drink cans, clean clothes

4. Electronics, papers, empty cups/drink cans, clean clothes, sawdust or filings

5. Electronics, papers, empty cups/drink cans, clean clothes, sawdust or filings, dirty dishes

6. Electronics, papers, empty cups/drink cans, clean clothes, sawdust or filings, dirty dishes, dry food remnants (eg biscuits & lollies)

7. Electronics, papers, empty cups/drink cans, unwashed clothes, sawdust or filings, dirty dishes, dry food remnants (eg biscuits & lollies)

8. Electronics, papers, empty cups/drink cans, unwashed clothes, sawdust or filings, dirty dishes, dry food remnants (eg biscuits & lollies), moist food stuffs in contact with pourous surfaces

9. Electronics, papers, empty cups/drink cans, unwashed clothes, sawdust or filings, dirty dishes, dry food remnants (eg biscuits & lollies), wet food in contact with pourous surfaces, uneaten meat

10. Electronics, papers, empty cups/drink cans, unwashed clothes, sawdust or filings, dirty dishes, dry food remnants (eg biscuits & lollies), wet food in contact with pourous surfaces, uneaten meat, old (used) bandages

11. Electronics, papers, empty cups/drink cans, unwashed clothes, sawdust or filings, dirty dishes, dry food remnants (eg biscuits & lollies), wet food in contact with pourous surfaces, uneaten meat, old (used) bandages and dead mice or larger

12. All the above plus certain fluids and solids that belong in the smallest room only.

Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: AndyC_772 on February 16, 2017, 09:29:02 PM
This pic of Jim Williams will no doubt appear at some point, so as delay the inevitable:

(http://m.eet.com/media/1155372/291880-jim_williams_in_his_lab_2007.jpg)
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: Kjelt on February 16, 2017, 09:57:30 PM
As a forum game, have you ever seen a worse off room, and for bonus points, is your room worse than mine?
Unfortunately yes, but luckily not in real life.
These kind of pictures you unwillingly get to see if people that (chain)smoke are using computers, sorry to blind you, I for one can not get it out of my head.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: TwoOfFive on February 16, 2017, 11:12:47 PM
As a forum game, have you ever seen a worse off room, and for bonus points, is your room worse than mine?
Unfortunately yes, but luckily not in real life.
These kind of pictures you unwillingly get to see if people that (chain)smoke are using computers, sorry to blind you, I for one can not get it out of my head.

I feel better about myself now...
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: Vtile on February 16, 2017, 11:15:57 PM
This pic of Jim Williams will no doubt appear at some point, so as delay the inevitable:

(http://m.eet.com/media/1155372/291880-jim_williams_in_his_lab_2007.jpg)
That is not a mess, it is a controlled chaos!
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: suicidaleggroll on February 17, 2017, 12:06:27 AM
As a forum game, have you ever seen a worse off room, and for bonus points, is your room worse than mine?
Unfortunately yes, but luckily not in real life.
These kind of pictures you unwillingly get to see if people that (chain)smoke are using computers, sorry to blind you, I for one can not get it out of my head.

OK serious question time...what is in all of those bottles?  It's not urine is it?  Because it looks like urine, and I can't think of anything else it could be.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: b_force on February 17, 2017, 12:17:42 AM
This pic of Jim Williams will no doubt appear at some point, so as delay the inevitable:

(http://m.eet.com/media/1155372/291880-jim_williams_in_his_lab_2007.jpg)
That was/is LITERALLY the type of desk one of my co-workers had, in a little TV repair shop in New Zealand.
Maybe I still have a photo somewhere. So terrible......
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: xrunner on February 17, 2017, 12:26:04 AM
I am ashamed to say, yes, this is my bedroom/office.

A single room - shoot that ain't nothin' - I'll see your room and raise you an entire house. Here's just a few shots of my neighbor's house.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: Kjelt on February 17, 2017, 01:31:49 AM
OK serious question time...what is in all of those bottles?  It's not urine is it?  Because it looks like urine, and I can't think of anything else it could be.
I have no idea and really I do not want to know esp. after your guess  ;D
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: Cerebus on February 17, 2017, 03:39:02 AM
OK serious question time...what is in all of those bottles?  It's not urine is it?  Because it looks like urine, and I can't think of anything else it could be.
I have no idea and really I do not want to know esp. after your guess  ;D

Cigarette butts dropped into part used bottles of water to extinguish them. You can clearly see them in the foreground bottle.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: rdl on February 17, 2017, 04:36:32 AM
There is a difference between clutter and mess. I'm not sure how to define it exactly, but I think it may have something to do with potential usefulness.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: razberik on February 17, 2017, 07:12:18 AM
OK serious question time...what is in all of those bottles?  It's not urine is it?  Because it looks like urine, and I can't think of anything else it could be.
That questions a lot of people. But it makes sense, toilet is too far away while online multiplaying.
This should be an improvement. It should perhaps feature some trapdoor to not expose myself to water level.
(http://techchunks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Geeky-Computer-Table-with-Toilet-Seat.jpg)
(http://f742a291acf7f6ce2375-d87d8e7b51bb281f7a964c4a606459da.r10.cf1.rackcdn.com/toilet-computer.jpg)
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: ZeTeX on February 17, 2017, 07:46:21 AM
What the fuck? and you parents are OK with it? and why in the world do you have a really old computer on your desk? this is your room, not your lab, this is where you impress the ladies lol
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: Halcyon on February 17, 2017, 11:22:01 AM
That's pretty atrocious TwoOfFive.

To be fair enough, my "work space" both at work and at home is rather chaotic. Piles of parts everywhere, paperwork, etc... but I know exactly where everything is and how deep in which pile a specific bit of paper is. My supervisor constantly tells me to clean it up. But it's the way I've always been, good luck changing it!

However it's always kept clean, meaning that I throw away garbage and never keep food scraps or forgotten beverages around. There is a difference between being untidy and just grubby.

The rest of the house on the other hand is spotless. Even a smudge mark on a cupboard door or on the fridge would bother me. Same with my car. Nothing is ever left on the floor or on seats. Also, smells annoy me, everything needs to smell clean (which comes down to throwing away rubbish).
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: timb on February 17, 2017, 11:30:08 AM
I am ashamed to say, yes, this is my bedroom/office.

A single room - shoot that ain't nothin' - I'll see your room and raise you an entire house. Here's just a few shots of my neighbor's house.

I don't know what country you're in, but here in the US there's a TV show called Hoarders. Basically they go in and try to help people like your neighbor.

Hoarding is actually a psychological condition, with a number of root causes. These people are incapable of throwing stuff out. So the show sends in a psychologist that specializes in hoarding to help prepare the person, then they send in a cleanup crew that basically throws *everything* away. The person then continues weekly therapy with the psychologist and the show follows up 6 months later to see how they're doing.

Most of the time it's really sad. :(

Where I used to live, I was training for my EMT-Basic certification at the Volunteer Rescue Squad. So I'm doing an evening shift, sitting in the break room and a new episode of Hoarders comes on the TV. It was about one of the other paramedics! Apparently this woman had been with the squad for 10 years and nobody had a clue she lived that way. Somehow she had avoided having anyone over to her house in those 10 years. Having met this woman, I would have never guessed she lived like that, so it goes to show you it can pretty much be anyone.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: mtdoc on February 17, 2017, 11:31:59 AM
This pic of Jim Williams will no doubt appear at some point

As will this picture of Bob Pease's office:

(http://m.eet.com/media/1116685/pease%20desk.jpg)
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: blueskull on February 17, 2017, 11:38:44 AM
My living space just a few minutes ago. It only gets messier if the scope is on the right table.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: xrunner on February 17, 2017, 11:49:59 AM
My living space just a few minutes ago. It only gets messier if the scope is on the right table.

You could build some simple risers for your table to give a second tier -  ::) well, but the tables might collapse ...
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: EEVblog on February 17, 2017, 12:20:06 PM
Bob Pease
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t513IZ5V9Nk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t513IZ5V9Nk)
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: EEVblog on February 17, 2017, 12:27:00 PM
Even better, at the 1min mark:
"I refuse to panic"  :-DD
And his car at 3:40  :-DD  :-DD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E_zUJ-SKRE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E_zUJ-SKRE)
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: TwoOfFive on February 17, 2017, 05:54:01 PM
By no means am I proud of my room, which is why I said I am ashamed to say this is my room. I have a severe mental and physical condition that prohibits me from keeping my shit clean. It's called being lazy.

And I am working on my room, it's getting better and better.

What the fuck? and you parents are OK with it? and why in the world do you have a really old computer on your desk? this is your room, not your lab, this is where you impress the ladies lol


lolwhat

nobody said my parents were okay with it, hence why I clean it when it gets like this.

And as for the old computer, that's part of the cool stuff I plan to showcase once I clean this crap up.

That's pretty atrocious TwoOfFive.

To be fair enough, my "work space" both at work and at home is rather chaotic. Piles of parts everywhere, paperwork, etc... but I know exactly where everything is and how deep in which pile a specific bit of paper is. My supervisor constantly tells me to clean it up. But it's the way I've always been, good luck changing it!

However it's always kept clean, meaning that I throw away garbage and never keep food scraps or forgotten beverages around. There is a difference between being untidy and just grubby.

The rest of the house on the other hand is spotless. Even a smudge mark on a cupboard door or on the fridge would bother me. Same with my car. Nothing is ever left on the floor or on seats. Also, smells annoy me, everything needs to smell clean (which comes down to throwing away rubbish).

Yeah. When it gets clean it normally stays clean for a while. But eventually one thing I forget to throw out, then the next, and then.

Well this.

Either way, I hope to finish this tonight (It is 1:53AM here, and I'm probably not going to be able to fall asleep any time soon. Sleeping is fun, but getting to sleep sucks.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: TwoOfFive on February 17, 2017, 06:36:06 PM
Update:

Before

(https://i.gyazo.com/605c00c9524c3b50c24b9c3e4e1515e9.jpg)

After


(https://i.gyazo.com/38b06def7a68e79b65106d032350aa0b.jpg)
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: raspberrypi on February 17, 2017, 07:55:59 PM
I am ashamed to say, yes, this is my bedroom/office.

A single room - shoot that ain't nothin' - I'll see your room and raise you an entire house. Here's just a few shots of my neighbor's house.

They are hoarders!

Have you ever seen that show? It amazing and real disease, but in one episode this lady was just lazy. Shes about 40 and lives on disability; first thing she says on camera is "I have 12 different disabilities.". I bet most are idiopathic things that are hard to medically prove like fibromyalgia and depression. She showed none of the normal symptoms like freaking out when people tried to throw away the garbage or ha some type of traumatic event that triggered it. At one point in the show she got pissed off and jump out of her chair as she was walking away she realized the camera was n her and she starts limping.As some one who could be disabled (I refuse to give in to my injury) the hardest part is getting out of your chair and gets easier as you take a few steps, not the other way around. She then said it was her kids fault for not cleaning up after her fat lazy ass. I see these people at the pain management doctor ( a special doctor here in the US that perscribes narcotics because the DEA is freaking out about them ever since Prince over dosed). These people just complain all the time, don't  want to get better and just want to get high off pain pills. They are almost always uneducated trailer trash with criminal records. They are totally unreasonable to deal with both on and off the drugs, and will just try to converse with you non stop about how much this and that hurts and how nothing works. There houses all look like that too! A mess just like them. Sad. 
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: raspberrypi on February 17, 2017, 08:13:09 PM
This is my work space. I need to build another level.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: NANDBlog on February 17, 2017, 09:06:59 PM
Even better, at the 1min mark:
"I refuse to panic"  :-DD
And his car at 3:40  :-DD  :-DD
He was driving a VW Beatle, without any modern safety features, and he died in a car accident  :'(
While I was smiling during the video, realizing this made me very sad.
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: joeqsmith on February 17, 2017, 11:28:57 PM
Pretty sad when NI let him go. I asked a few people about it but never got an answer.  In retrospect, gut it to improve the numbers for the buyout? I really don't know.

I have electronics clutter but it seems I am normally working on something.  I am also a bit of a pack rat. I am starting to sort things out.  Do I really need that TMS320C1 data book?   :-DD 
Title: Re: Have you ever seen a room messier?
Post by: james_s on February 18, 2017, 03:43:01 AM
As a forum game, have you ever seen a worse off room, and for bonus points, is your room worse than mine?
Unfortunately yes, but luckily not in real life.
These kind of pictures you unwillingly get to see if people that (chain)smoke are using computers, sorry to blind you, I for one can not get it out of my head.

Yuck!! I can tolerate clutter, but filth is disgusting. Not much grosses me out more than piles of dirty dishes and food scraps.