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I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« on: April 27, 2011, 09:14:29 pm »
Well it looks to me, like the second major thing that happened to me (Fluke 87V adventure) ,
by staying as active forum member in the EEV, and get involved with all those debates,
about DMM brands and models.

That causes or leads us to further investigate about those devices.
And so we learn all those small secrets about their differences,
and also the plus and minus of its model.

Today I got an email, by an representative of Agilent ( Malaysia ),
he noticed my activity in the forum,
and Agilent decided to include me in an program of marketing research.

They will send me for free one evaluating unit (DMM)  , that after the test period of a month,
it will stay in my ownership.  
And also I will participate in the final survey, with the results .
Plus I am free to contact them , at any time after the first month,
so to report likes dislikes or remarks .

I had all ready reply in to a basic survey,
and the next step will be the selection of the model of the device,
that they will send ( for review - evaluation) .
The selection its up to them.

Possible choices
U1272A or the U1242B
or a brand new meter that they will release soon.

Well by getting the Fluke 28II I become spoiled  ;D,
and there is no way to accept something not equal or even better than this.

I am also free to post my review publicly,
in any forum of my choice. ( EEV included )  ;)

I will add more info, as soon I will get the opponent of the Fluke 28II .

On a second thought, it looks that I was too friendly about the UNI-T,
that's why they never contact me for an review - evaluation program  :P


 
 

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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2011, 09:25:36 pm »
Yeh!!!!!!!! Go Greece Go!  ;D ;D ;D



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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2011, 10:03:07 pm »
Nice work Kiriakos!
Well done to Agilent for taking an active interest in the forum and the value such reviews can bring them.
Even I don't have a shiny new Agilent meter for review!  :(

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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2011, 10:17:29 pm »

B.t.w. Almiros Magnisias edw.

Gia sou patrida , edo Volos Magnisia  ;)

 

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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2011, 10:23:02 pm »
Nice work Kiriakos!
Well done to Agilent for taking an active interest in the forum and the value such reviews can bring them.
Even I don't have a shiny new Agilent meter for review!  :(

Dave.

Thanks Dave ..

Well I got this email , does not look fake ...  :D

In any case I hope to get the one that its not yet publicly sold ,
so the review to be an exclusive gain of  our community , that I love that much.    ;)



 

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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2011, 10:23:56 pm »
Congratulations Kiriakos! Maybe you will get a U1272A and we will be able to compare experiences with it. I will be in Makrinitsa for a week at the end of June - perfect time to discuss multimeters! :)
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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2011, 10:24:48 pm »
What your answer was Kiriakos?

 :P :P :P
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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2011, 10:29:32 pm »
Congratulations Kiriakos! Maybe you will get a U1272A and we will be able to compare experiences with it. I will be in Makrinitsa for a week at the end of June - perfect time to discuss multimeters! :)

Wow I bet that I will have the joy to meet the all family then..  
You will probably need my cell phone .
Get it from here.  ;)


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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2011, 10:31:18 pm »
What your answer was Kiriakos?

 :P :P :P

Call me in my cellphone, arrangement for a coffee etc etc  :)
 

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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2011, 12:20:21 am »
According to this video , the U1272A (one of the possible candidates) ,
has dual display , and in True RMS mode, the one represents the DC part and the second the AC part of the voltage,
well it looks impressive even as idea.
The understanding of  True RMS puzzles more heads than my.

The language of this video is not understandable by me, but you get an idea from the picture.

Now, if there is a way for the DMM, so to present also the combined result of both AC and DC = True RMS ,
i will find out when it will arrives  ..  :)    

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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2011, 12:31:50 am »
The language in the video is Thai.
 

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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2011, 03:02:22 am »
Agilent ( Malaysia ),
??? 1Malaysia! you should do 4KV test Kiri. Congratulation for the free DMM. I thought it was an Agilent "Infinity Vision" Series.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2011, 03:04:48 am by Mechatrommer »
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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2011, 03:03:34 am »
Just got another email from Agilent . :)

........most probably a U1272A
They asked me if i need extra accessories from their range.

I made an small list :
PC connectivity
magnetic hanger
LED torch for the leads.
Surface Temperature Probe
SMT Grabbers
And also, a soft case

They will get shipped in a Week .

( I like to see Petros face after reading all those )  ;D



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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2011, 03:09:25 am »
( I like to see Petros face after reading all those )  ;D

Just like mine!

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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2011, 03:13:05 am »
Agilent ( Malaysia ),
I thought it was an Agilent "Infinity Vision" Series.


I do not see any "Infinity Vision" Series , I am on their web site looking for it ...
 

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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2011, 04:37:03 am »
Congratulations, Kiriakos, couldn't have happened to a more deserving person!  I hope its a good pick-me-up considering the troubles in Greece.  Aren't you glad you are still logging on, at least for the time being?

Its interesting how aggressive a push Agilent is going to get folks to see their DMMs.

In this thread:

http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=3061.msg41045#msg41045

I suggested they lower their price drastically to get folks to 'preview' their DMMs, but pretty much its a strategy for any new test gear; it will quickly build a user base for spreading the word, good or bad.  The traditional channels, magazine reviews and professional journalists, I think just aren't as hands on as bloggers or active forums posters.  Agilent has gone further, they are actively looking for reviewers, basically anyone who seems to know gear based on what they post on the web, and then giving meters out, what appears to all be free.

At element14.com, 3 were given out since Nov, 2010.   An eevblog member, tronixstuff, has an extensive review.  Its one of the top returns if you google u1272a review:

http://tronixstuff.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/review-agilent-u1272a-true-rms-digital-multimeter/

It just shows how valuable the reviews on the web are.  
« Last Edit: April 28, 2011, 04:39:26 am by saturation »
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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2011, 05:58:01 am »
Thanks for the positive comments S.

In sort ..

1) Yes I am happy so far about my on-line status,
but i am ready with the firefox in a USB stick, so to handle things even from public internet locations, aka internet cafe.

2) I have no emotions about brands , and that gives me the opportunity to express freely my opinion,
no matter what, something that I like also in Dave , he acts the same too . 

3) In the last email that I got , they justified their selection , by saying again that is an model comparable with the 87V.
And not with the 28II due the IP ratting.

4) They can write what ever they like on their own documents,
but if we the users not agree with them , then they live in a fantasy.

5) I got very surprised by their offer , yes I am partially knowledgeable to test the meter ,
and I have also and basic reference test gear, and I will do my part of the agreement to test and say my opinion.
My first reply to them included the phrase ... I accept to test the meter if you agree to pay the return to base shipping cost.
I had no idea that I am going to keep it.

6) About other reviews :
Well I think that I am an smart person , and I had understand by the tone of voice of Agilent ,
that they offer their tools  in to specific target groups of people , with different job style .
Example : electronics engineers - industrial electricians - specialist in other fields or even students.

They collect all those results , so to learn what the people like.

They do not care to become famous , because of an Greek with an average skill in English language, will review an product of them.
They need the opinion of an industrial electrician , and they will have it. 

My strong point is that I also have the fresh made Fluke 28II , and the what ever comparison it would be very interesting.    :)
 

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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2011, 12:13:20 pm »
I've said it before and I'll say it again... I've met some of the people from Agilent Malaysia and they are serious about making test equipment, and very serious about getting feedback from us users. I'm not an industrial electrician but they listened carefully to my comments and thoughts and have been great about keeping in touch since our meeting for follow up thoughts. While I don't think of myself as brand loyal (I would be very happy to get a Gossen Metrawatt DMM... ;) ) I must say that their responsiveness to me as a customer has won Agilent a huge number of points in my book and when I'll be ready to consider further purchases of high-end test gear Agilent will be the first company I turn to.
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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2011, 02:29:51 pm »
1) i sense Fluke vs Agilent again.
2) agree with saturation. you are the most eligible person for this offer Kiri (electrician deal with HV)
3) now you can put your decade box into good serious use ;)
4) no more "Good Bye" Kiri. now you have a responsibility, as a blogger and reviewer.
5) last not least, i think they poisoning you! point (1)? :P just a nasty speculation. and again... :P to Kiri.
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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2011, 08:48:32 pm »
1) i sense Fluke vs Agilent again.

Yes and no  :)
Yes they fight to win the industrial market, check the Proof  http://wireless.agilent.com/videos/u1270/index.html
( from the camp of Fluke we have seen similar educational videos,
and also those that they maintain the fear factor by speaking about safety - by showing explosions)

Both targeting, so to win the industrial market, and this is understandable.

To me, the usability factor in the field, will be the No1 point as comparison of the too.
example ... test in bright sun : can I see the screen and digits ?
Comparison of Min/Max and Data logging : Are both meters capable to record accurately,
the start current of an three phase motor ?
( even here In my own repairs lab, I have three phase electrical installation and motor so to test)  ;) 

2) agree with saturation. you are the most eligible person for this offer Kiri (electrician deal with HV)

Spot on  .. on that  :)

3) now you can put your decade box into good serious use ;)
Well with out it I would feel poor  :D 
And the reference DC source , and the reference mA source they will found good use ,
for another one time .


4) no more "Good Bye" Kiri. now you have a responsibility, as a blogger and reviewer.
This is an sensitive matter and it could resolved in time (currently unknown) ,
I do not feel as blogger and reviewer,
but I am almost 42 , 10 of may its my birthday,
and I have gather in all this years technical experiences that I like to share with the people ,
and even with Agilent .
My father was also electrician and I hold his own experiences too .
If i do the sum of his experiences plus my own, I do hold in me an valuable pack.     

5) last not least, i think they poisoning you! point (1)? :P just a nasty speculation. and again... :P to Kiri.

Nop it does not work that way ...  ;D

Agilent haves to send me and three bench type ones , so to be equal in quantity with the Fluke ones that I own.

Now honestly speaking , PetrosA had some nags about the usability ( ranges control ) at the U1272A,
Dave reviewed the one with OLED display ( battery life and some other details was irritating to the point that the viewer would feel insecure to buy an Agilent that easy - price tag VS what you get ) .
I would seek and spot the differences of the Industrial Fluke VS Agilent, with my own criteria.
For instance , I do not care to take it apart just for pictures .. 

And so the what ever opinion that I would get,
it would be useful mostly at the Industrial target group. ( electricians and out door technicians ) 

Agilent wrote to me : 
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I will not try to impress you. Instead I am hoping that this product will be the one that impresses you

We will find out ... soon  ;)


( all ready I have download, all the latest software and all the technical library about the U1272A ,  I am ready )   
 
 


 

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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2011, 08:55:53 pm »
(I would be very happy to get a Gossen Metrawatt DMM... ;) )

Knock wood on that ... ( no no no )
The Data Logging adapter it will cost you the price of the meter..  :D  :D  :D

Agilent pricing in UK ..  ( check the accessories at the bottom of the page )  http://isswww.co.uk/Multimeters/Agilent/Agilent-U1272A-Handheld-Digital-Multimeter/

It looks that the additional accessories that I requested , they do not have supreme pricing in EU.
Or looks a bit cheaper than the Fluke ones.  
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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2011, 09:26:32 pm »
Interesting new event, I got contacted by Agilent and they are sending me a fully decked u1272a.

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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2011, 09:51:25 pm »
Interesting new event, I got contacted by Agilent and they are sending me a fully decked u1272a.



Do not say it to Dave , keep it as secret ..  ;D  ( well done )
 

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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2011, 11:00:08 pm »
There's no reason for this to turn into a Fluke vs. Agilent competition. Both companies are large, established manufacturers of high quality test equipment. Their track records cover different categories but are both outstanding and it would be good to see products from each company judged on their own merits.

The bottom line is that the electrical and electronics user markets are very different. From hobbiest to engineer, the electronics user is generally much more capable in their use of a multimeter than the average electrician (or - scary thought - the DIY homeowner). So aside from first time buyers, electronics users are generally very good at assessing a multimeter for their needs. Sadly, many electricians have a very limited understanding of what can be done with a multimeter and an even smaller idea of how to judge a good one vs. a bad one. At the end of the day, it's less important whether you own the "best" multimeter, but whether you own the best multimeter for your needs.
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Re: I got sellected by Agilent for an product review.
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2011, 11:17:28 pm »
I agree with PetrosA.




So... How will we organize it when the packet arrives? I will be the camera guy and Petros the director?

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