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How do you think this will effect GitHub?

Good, github won't have to worry about keeping it's lights on.
27 (20.5%)
This won't really change anything
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This will be bad for github.
62 (47%)
This changes everything. Deleting my account.
24 (18.2%)
BRB, Starting a petition.
1 (0.8%)

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Offline Nominal Animal

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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub
« Reply #50 on: June 05, 2018, 02:49:46 pm »
It will be bad even for the Git itself, because Microsoft always EEE.
Only if people actually keep using GitHub, or Microsoft's forthcoming fork of the git protocols and utilities.

I wonder what kind of "helpful" mascot they'll push with their mutant version of git? Gitty?

 

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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub
« Reply #51 on: June 05, 2018, 03:06:06 pm »
Probably recycle the old insider mascot marketing.

Pretty well describes windows 10. Ok so we've got this dinosaur now lets hack some shit on the front of it and make the marketing team ride it and wow windows 10.

 
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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub
« Reply #52 on: June 05, 2018, 03:50:59 pm »
Just deleted my account. Screw them.
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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub
« Reply #53 on: June 05, 2018, 05:39:21 pm »
 
A terrifying news, since the big ones are buying the smallest to end up creating monopolies of dominion. Between Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg, they are keeping all the valuable products, a dangerous technological dictatorship.

It's time to migrate to Gitlab.

What will be the next, Bill Gates buys Linux, Gates or Zuckerberg pay to become presidents of the United States ?.  Terrible technological dictatorship based on pay to get it all.
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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub
« Reply #54 on: June 05, 2018, 05:53:24 pm »
I hope they leave the github pages section alone,  free website  :) ,  got my tech blog on it.
 

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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #56 on: June 05, 2018, 06:29:56 pm »
I’ve got a better solution. Use git as a distributed VCS! You don’t need github. It isn’t worth anything really.

Don’t need gitlab either!
 
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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #57 on: June 05, 2018, 06:34:25 pm »
I’ve got a better solution. Use git as a distributed VCS! You don’t need github. It isn’t worth anything really.
One of the biggest advantages of GitHub (and others) is centralization and exposure of projects.  Sure if you are working on a big and well-known project, then having your own thing is fine. In my case (and many others) projects are small, and minimizing friction for users and contributors is a necessary thing. I see many contributions to my projects because people can quickly find the project, clone it, and submit a pull request.

You may like it or not, but GitHub and other centralized systems are what made Git mainstream.

And after playing with GitLab for a couple days, I like it more than GitHub, and will gladly pay them money, so they can stay alive longer than GitHub did. I'd really like to see their cost structure, most likely they just got real fat and hired a bunch of unnecessary people.
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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #58 on: June 05, 2018, 06:40:14 pm »
Gitweb?
 

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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #59 on: June 05, 2018, 06:43:50 pm »
It has pretty atrocious interface. Sure, you can get used to whatever, but why? The better service (as indicated by the number of users) is out there, why not use it?

Also, you need to run a server for gitweb assuming all responsibilities for security and maintenance. I don't want to play sysadmin for more than I absolutely have to. I'd rather pay money and get the service.

I could understand if it was some locked in thing. But migrating between those services is very easy, and if it turns out that none of them can be sustainable, then inferior options are a good fallback.
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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub
« Reply #60 on: June 05, 2018, 08:08:31 pm »
but if more people move to GitLab, it will be fine too.

Statistics of projects moving from Github to Gitlab:

https://monitor.gitlab.net/dashboard/db/github-importer?orgId=1

 

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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2018, 10:20:49 pm »
[so they can stay alive longer than GitHub did.

I doubt Gitlab is alive enough to turn down 30x their yearly revenue ... unless they think there is a bigger fool out there.
 

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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #62 on: June 05, 2018, 10:22:51 pm »
I doubt Gitlab is alive enough to turn down 30x their yearly revenue ... unless they think there is a bigger fool out there.
I was talking more about just plain going out of business. You obviously don't turn down $5bn offer :) No blame here, if they can sell for half that, they should just go for it.
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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #63 on: June 06, 2018, 06:15:54 am »
 
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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub
« Reply #64 on: June 06, 2018, 06:59:10 am »
...I wonder what kind of "helpful" mascot they'll push with their mutant version of git? Gitty?

I'm hoping Tay, the cancelled AI bot. Think of the brand recognition  >:D
 

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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #65 on: June 06, 2018, 11:28:15 am »


Thank you, exactly my thoughts, a picture is worth a thousand words.

When will MS finally go belly up? I know their customer base invested billions in some vendor-locked in solution, but they learn? Will they ever |O

 

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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #66 on: June 06, 2018, 11:39:11 am »
I just hope they don't go after the more "interesting" stuff on there (datasheets, schematics, etc. ;) )
 

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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub
« Reply #67 on: June 06, 2018, 01:37:38 pm »
It's probably good for Github in the long run and will inevitably mean an even more seamless integration with things like Visual Studio. It does mean Microsoft will add it to the hivemind and I'm not sure how I feel about that. I'm noticing an increasing unease about how a few companies are controlling and logging a lot of our information while doing very diverse and often unrelated things.

Bill gates is like the Corporate borg queen. Eventually all companies WILL be assimilated and resistance IS futile. I welcome the day we only have one company which will be Wall/applesoft/exxon/monstanto/Koch/mart. We will work for credits to buy things at the place we work for; like bitcoins but completely controlled. They already do this in china; whole towns owned by a company, people even have employee weddings in mass where you marry your coworkers and all shops/housing/utilities are owned by the factory. 21st century slavery. Worker strikes are met with tear gas and clubs. Not just in china the people that build trumps golf course in Dubai are perpetually in debt and can't get their passports without paying it off and they are kept in "housing" that has rents at American prices but at $1.00/hr pay, a hundred miles into desert so there is no escape. At least with the real borg you get to travel around the galaxy and don't have to worry about being poor. Everything is becoming an oligopoly where consumer price is no longer dictated by competition but share price. That's how the system is set up and I'm surprised it took this long for companies to figure this out. The more Ilearn how the system work the more I'm kicking myself for not getting into the 1% so when the big divide comes I will be on the easy/winning side. Divorcing yourself from desires of material goods and pleasures of the flesh is no longer enough to survive, let alone be happy and feel secure in your health and future. All the safe guards are almost gone as we regress into a time when the disadvantaged die in the street of starvation and cheaply preventable illness.

I imagine GitHub will get shitty just like all corporate mergers and way too expensive.
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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub
« Reply #68 on: June 06, 2018, 02:05:52 pm »
Bill gates is like the Corporate borg queen. Eventually all companies WILL be assimilated and resistance IS futile. I welcome the day we only have one company which will be Wall/applesoft/exxon/monstanto/Koch/mart. We will work for credits to buy things at the place we work for; like bitcoins but completely controlled. They already do this in china; whole towns owned by a company, people even have employee weddings in mass where you marry your coworkers and all shops/housing/utilities are owned by the factory. 21st century slavery. Worker strikes are met with tear gas and clubs. Not just in china the people that build trumps golf course in Dubai are perpetually in debt and can't get their passports without paying it off and they are kept in "housing" that has rents at American prices but at $1.00/hr pay, a hundred miles into desert so there is no escape. At least with the real borg you get to travel around the galaxy and don't have to worry about being poor. Everything is becoming an oligopoly where consumer price is no longer dictated by competition but share price. That's how the system is set up and I'm surprised it took this long for companies to figure this out. The more Ilearn how the system work the more I'm kicking myself for not getting into the 1% so when the big divide comes I will be on the easy/winning side. Divorcing yourself from desires of material goods and pleasures of the flesh is no longer enough to survive, let alone be happy and feel secure in your health and future. All the safe guards are almost gone as we regress into a time when the disadvantaged die in the street of starvation and cheaply preventable illness.

I imagine GitHub will get shitty just like all corporate mergers and way too expensive.
Bill Gates isn't calling the shots at Microsoft any more. He's been succeeded by Steve Ballmer, who in turn got succeeded by Satya Nadella. The latter is where all the current cloud shenanigans come from.
 
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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #69 on: June 06, 2018, 03:01:24 pm »
 
Yesterday I migrated my Github to Gitlab, and it really was very easy, all the automatic process in a few minutes. Now I'm going to see how to manage Gitlab, and goodbye to Microsoft.

According to Gitlab statistics, a lot of people are migrating from Github to Gitlab.

That's the only thing that Bill Gates will get by buying Github, killing one more company, Gates is like King Midas, but on the contrary, all the companies he buys he destroys them. He is rotten with money, and he still wants more and more, that guy is disgusting.

Embrace, extend, and extinguish is the Microsoft strategy to create a monopoly and destroy the competitors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #70 on: June 06, 2018, 03:01:53 pm »
I for one welcome the day when our Borg-overlords ban people from using the internet so i dont get to see "The end is near"-yelling or "why is my pus polarized?"-questions from beamin.  :-+
 
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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #71 on: June 06, 2018, 03:21:09 pm »

Yesterday I migrated my Github to Gitlab, and it really was very easy, all the automatic process in a few minutes. Now I'm going to see how to manage Gitlab, and goodbye to Microsoft.

According to Gitlab statistics, a lot of people are migrating from Github to Gitlab.

That's the only thing that Bill Gates will get by buying Github, killing one more company, Gates is like King Midas, but on the contrary, all the companies he buys he destroys them. He is rotten with money, and he still wants more and more, that guy is disgusting.
Gates stepped down as the CEO two decades ago and stopped working as a software architect a decade ago. He's been selling off his shares down to a current 4%. Not one, but two people have lead the company since. Bill Gates isn't CEO any more and doesn't own the majority of stock either.

People are so eager to jump on the hatewagon that they'll conveniently ignore the facts.
 
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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #72 on: June 06, 2018, 04:13:46 pm »

Yesterday I migrated my Github to Gitlab, and it really was very easy, all the automatic process in a few minutes. Now I'm going to see how to manage Gitlab, and goodbye to Microsoft.

According to Gitlab statistics, a lot of people are migrating from Github to Gitlab.

That's the only thing that Bill Gates will get by buying Github, killing one more company, Gates is like King Midas, but on the contrary, all the companies he buys he destroys them. He is rotten with money, and he still wants more and more, that guy is disgusting.
Gates stepped down as the CEO two decades ago and stopped working as a software architect a decade ago. He's been selling off his shares down to a current 4%. Not one, but two people have lead the company since. Bill Gates isn't CEO any more and doesn't own the majority of stock either.

People are so eager to jump on the hatewagon that they'll conveniently ignore the facts.

The internet loves a hate wagon. It helps that they have a mantra they can scream from the rooftops too.
"Embrace, extend, and extinguish"
 

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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #73 on: June 06, 2018, 04:32:43 pm »
ban people from using the internet so i dont get to see "The end is near"-yelling or "why is my pus polarized?"-questions from beamin.  :-+
they'll conveniently ignore the facts.
The internet loves a hate wagon. It helps that they have a mantra they can scream from the rooftops too.
Right, right: if a company changes their CEO, it automatically means they will no longer repeat their decades-long anticompetitive practices. Because, uh, because they are better people now. Right?
 
Us "the end is near" and "mantra repeaters" are only extrapolating MS's actions based on its past business practices. There is zero evidence to expect the acquisition of GitHub to lead to anything positive to anybody except Microsoft.  The extremely high acquisition price furthermore indicates that MS expects to profit hugely from this move, as otherwise their leadership would be on the hook for shareholders for wasting a billion dollars.

So, if we stay strictly logical, and use Einstein's definition of idiocy, you guys are idiots, for ignoring we are only applying logic and extrapolating from past actions, to predict the outcome of this acquisition.  I don't know where your hopefulness regarding Microsoft behaviour stems from, and although I could speculate, only you know.  What you do not seem to realize, is that your optimism is not realistic, and not based on reality.  It is not a place where I would laugh at others.
 

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Re: Microsoft buys GitHub (CONFIRMED)
« Reply #74 on: June 06, 2018, 04:43:37 pm »
It helps that they have a mantra they can scream from the rooftops too.
"Embrace, extend, and extinguish"

Nah.  I prefer the mantra Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers.  That's what Microsoft has always cared about.  That's the benevolent reason they've bought Github.  They care.

 


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