Author Topic: Microsoft srewed up hotmail (Read 9179 times)

The Soulman · « **on:** August 23, 2016, 09:58:56 am »

Just while I was checking my Hotmail I noticed Microsoft has changed a perfectly fine gui to the most ugly one ever!
Hope they make a way to return the previous one, pretty mad now.

And yes I use w7 not w10 and I have a dislike for touchscreens.

Psi · « **Reply #1 on:** August 23, 2016, 10:01:34 am »

hotmail was dead to me 12 years ago.

Jeroen3 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 23, 2016, 10:13:37 am »

Why were you still using ~~hotmail~~ ~~live mail~~ outlook.com?
I moved to google mail a long time ago.

rdl · « **Reply #3 on:** August 23, 2016, 12:12:04 pm »

Wasn't hotmail shut down years ago? I had a junk mail account there and it stopped working for some reason I no longer remember. Maybe because they made having a microsoft account mandatory or something. Not a problem, microsoft products are no longer worth the price to me.

dannyf · « **Reply #4 on:** August 23, 2016, 12:52:13 pm »

If you are still using Hotmail, something is screwed up for sure.

EEVblog · « **Reply #5 on:** August 23, 2016, 01:00:53 pm »

Hotmail still exists?

I gave up on it when the spam reached 100 a day, a long long time ago now. Gmail bought that figure down to zero.

bitslice · « **Reply #6 on:** August 23, 2016, 01:41:15 pm »

Microsoft also managed to screw up its calculator under Win10

How does a 32Kb app now take two seconds to load even though they've gutted half its functionality?

setq · « **Reply #7 on:** August 23, 2016, 01:48:17 pm »

If you think Outlook.com UI is bad, you want to use the Office 365 one for a couple of weeks. So many bugs and its unusable on a mobile device.

StillTrying · « **Reply #8 on:** August 23, 2016, 03:56:50 pm »

Is there anything that M$ haven't screwed up?

setq · « **Reply #9 on:** August 23, 2016, 04:02:50 pm »

Not that I'm aware of

The Soulman · « **Reply #10 on:** August 23, 2016, 04:58:55 pm »

Quote from: EEVblog on August 23, 2016, 01:00:53 pm

Hotmail still exists?
I gave up on it when the spam reached 100 a day, a long long time ago now. Gmail bought that figure down to zero.

I have maybe a couple a week that appear nicely in the spam box, nothing in my inbox, so no complaints there.

Quote from: setq on August 23, 2016, 01:48:17 pm

If you think Outlook.com UI is bad, you want to use the Office 365 one for a couple of weeks. So many bugs and its unusable on a mobile device.

Still stuck at office 2007, taken a look at 360 when that came out but decided to stick with 2007, so 365 isn't much better huh?

Cyberdragon · « **Reply #11 on:** August 23, 2016, 05:02:34 pm »

*DEBATE TRIGGER WARNING*

Not as bad as Crapple. Microsoft has made fun of the wormy Apple in their commercials.

I'm suprised they still work on Hotmail.

Do you also use AOL?

rrinker · « **Reply #12 on:** August 23, 2016, 05:47:24 pm »

Calculator on my Windows 10 opens instantly, same as it has in previous versions. My laptop has a dedicate button for it, on my desktop I have the icon pinned to the task bar.

I am considering ditching my gmail because it is becoming increasingly poorer and poorer. Performancee even with a 150GB cable connection can be agonizingly slow - using Chrome as the browser! On my iPhone, it constantly locks up the native Mail app (my work Office 365 account - never). On my iPad, the GMail app has the same performance issues. And more and more I find legitimate emails I have received for many many years (mainly newsgroups and similar) are half the time ending up in my spam folder despite repeatedly tagging them as not spam.

And thanks so much Google for now dropping Chrome apps unless you are actually using ChromeOS.

stj · « **Reply #13 on:** August 23, 2016, 05:58:24 pm »

people shouldnt use gmail, they scan your attachements and block ones they dont personally like.
zip an exe and send it to another gmail account to prove the point.

go open a freemail account with yandex.com instead.

SeanB · « **Reply #14 on:** August 23, 2016, 06:48:42 pm »

I think I still have that in my password manager, wonder if it still works......... Don't think I have logged in to it for about 3 years though.

I did use a free russian webmail server for a while, easy to spot the spam there, just from the language change.

Jeroen3 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 23, 2016, 07:30:59 pm »

Quote from: stj on August 23, 2016, 05:58:24 pm

people shouldnt use gmail, they scan your attachements and block ones they dont personally like.
zip an exe and send it to another gmail account to prove the point.

Any properly configured mail server will refuse recognizeable executables. And since zip files are simple containers, this poses no additional penalty. Some servers even block unknown attachments from unsigned sources. Most if not all ransomware infections are due to poor mail clients not filtering links and attachments for .jpg.exe or .pdf.exe. Users are idiots, you cannot rely on the user to protect themselves.
This is mainly outlook's fault for allowing HTML to be embedded in mail. Use RTF people!

Also. When the service is free, you're the product. If you're that worried, get a domain and rent a server.

Halcyon · « **Reply #16 on:** August 23, 2016, 07:42:09 pm »

Yeahhhh can't say I'm a huge fan of Hotmail. Although I still use ICQ from time to time. I still have my very first 7-digit UIN (I *just* missed out on a 6-digit one).

Quote from: rrinker on August 23, 2016, 05:47:24 pm

I am considering ditching my gmail because it is becoming increasingly poorer and poorer. Performancee even with a 150GB cable connection can be agonizingly slow - using Chrome as the browser!

I can't say I've noticed performance issues in Gmail, ever. Then again I've turned off most of the fancy pants features and just use a fairly basic UI. As for Chrome, it leaves little to be desired. Chrome is my third choice of browser if all else fails (first two being IE and Firefox). Even Google Earth is not supported by Chrome, it suggests using IE or Firefox (see screenshot).

Macbeth · « **Reply #17 on:** August 23, 2016, 07:49:43 pm »

I must be a glutton for punishment, I run my own mail server (postfix, dovecot, amavis, spamassassin, clamav). I think I should add razor and pyzor as I'm still getting a good spamming.

Jeroen3 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 23, 2016, 07:53:11 pm »

Google now also has Inbox. Which is a nice app to do mails. It lets you snooze mails and provides a clean ui.
https://www.google.com/inbox/?hl=nl

It's a bit like "Mailbox" that Dropbox took over and discontinued.

Are you over yet? ?

MadTux · « **Reply #19 on:** August 23, 2016, 08:17:03 pm »

Just use Thunderbird instead of crappy hotmail WebGUI.

Jwalling · « **Reply #20 on:** August 23, 2016, 08:19:13 pm »

Quote from: StillTrying on August 23, 2016, 03:56:50 pm

Is there anything that M$ haven't screwed up?

MS-DOS was pretty good.

rdl · « **Reply #21 on:** August 23, 2016, 08:33:07 pm »

Quote from: Jwalling on August 23, 2016, 08:19:13 pm

Quote from: StillTrying on August 23, 2016, 03:56:50 pm
Is there anything that M$ haven't screwed up?

MS-DOS was pretty good.

Yeah, but they ~~stole~~ bought that.

janoc · « **Reply #22 on:** August 23, 2016, 08:35:05 pm »

Quote from: stj on August 23, 2016, 05:58:24 pm

people shouldnt use gmail, they scan your attachements and block ones they dont personally like.
zip an exe and send it to another gmail account to prove the point.

go open a freemail account with yandex.com instead.

And send your documents to Putin's secret service for free. You could have chosen at least some western freemail instead of Yandex

The .exe blocking inside of zipfiles is an old trick to prevent spreading of malware which was commonly sent like this to foil virus scanners. If you want to send a legit exe file to someone, simply rename it with a different extension and tell the recipient to rename it back.

Halcyon · « **Reply #23 on:** August 23, 2016, 08:53:45 pm »

Quote from: janoc on August 23, 2016, 08:35:05 pm

Quote from: stj on August 23, 2016, 05:58:24 pm
people shouldnt use gmail, they scan your attachements and block ones they dont personally like.
zip an exe and send it to another gmail account to prove the point.

go open a freemail account with yandex.com instead.

And send your documents to Putin's secret service for free. You could have chosen at least some western freemail instead of Yandex

The .exe blocking inside of zipfiles is an old trick to prevent spreading of malware which was commonly sent like this to foil virus scanners. If you want to send a legit exe file to someone, simply rename it with a different extension and tell the recipient to rename it back.

Doesn't work with Gmail. It looks at the actual file headers. It also rejects encrypted or password protected ZIP files. It can be a pain in the ass, but there are other ways to share files.

rstofer · « **Reply #24 on:** August 23, 2016, 09:35:00 pm »

Quote from: bitslice on August 23, 2016, 01:41:15 pm

Microsoft also managed to screw up its calculator under Win10

How does a 32Kb app now take two seconds to load even though they've gutted half its functionality?

I just tried an unscientific test - the Calculator app on my Surface Book loads in about 1/2 second. Basically a blink of an eye! Something else is wrong. Got any horsepower? Mine is a 2.6 GHz Dual Core I7.

Something else I noticed: After installing the new 'bash' feature, I can assemble 2000 lines of code as fast as I can get my finger off the Enter key. I haven't done any C programs of substance but Hello World is also compiled and linked in a flash.


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