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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #125 on: September 09, 2015, 11:20:58 pm »
I'm getting abusive emails and harassment on social media, apparently from an EEVBlog user. Can the moderators please check if anyone is using IP address 73.48.3.147 and take action.

Mods here have no jurisdiction over your email or social media.  If it doesn't happen here they can't do shit about it.

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #126 on: September 10, 2015, 12:38:29 am »
Get a fucking grip Mojo, seriously mate.
 

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #127 on: September 10, 2015, 12:39:47 am »
To be clear, I'm saying that if they can identify that user from their IP address they should take action. I've already contacted the social media sites and their ISP.

Please also delete the "won hung low" thread. Like similar threads on 4chan, it's just encouraging harassment and this person cites it.

Long long ago I warned you to keep out of that thread and you did not. Now what do you want me to do ? What you do and say is your choice. You should not be getting harassment on other sites and that is not appropriate behaviour but we can only lay it on their conscience and sense of morality if they have any.

The damage is already done, I can't do anything about matters outside of this forum and IP addresses change often and can be masked. How have people been able to follow you from here onto social meadia ? I don't want to be funny but you have attracted "attention" for a long time. If you are going to do that at least try and insulate yourself on here so that you cannot be followed elsewhere if that is going to be a problem.
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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #128 on: September 10, 2015, 01:07:43 am »
EEVBlog's policy on harassment is now officially worse than 4chan.  :palm:

That site at least bans users who use their site as a staging ground for harassment elsewhere.

Excuse me ? since when do we have power over other sites and internet providers ? You really do need to grow up. Again i ask, how did anyone find you elsewhere ? you have been "controversial" for a long time you much have known there was a risk. Tou will have to take matters up with the administrators of whatever website you are having a problem on, not coming back over here and having a sulk.
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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #129 on: September 10, 2015, 03:50:27 am »
... Tou will have to take matters up with the administrators of whatever website you are having a problem on, not coming back over here and having a sulk.
My guess is the guy already made some new enemies there, and they already kicked him out.
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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #130 on: September 10, 2015, 05:56:51 am »
EEVBlog's policy on harassment is now officially worse than 4chan.  :palm:

That site at least bans users who use their site as a staging ground for harassment elsewhere.

Please go away. You are harassing this community.
Drain the swamp.
 

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #131 on: September 10, 2015, 07:57:43 am »
EEVBlog's policy on harassment is now officially worse than 4chan.  :palm:

That site at least bans users who use their site as a staging ground for harassment elsewhere.

Please go away. You are harassing this community.

Your wish has been artificially imposed, so now we can all stop talking about it!
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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #132 on: September 10, 2015, 08:31:41 am »
I'm getting abusive emails and harassment on social media, apparently from an EEVBlog user. Can the moderators please check if anyone is using IP address 73.48.3.147 and take action.

No account under that IP
 

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #133 on: September 10, 2015, 08:40:11 am »
It seems Mojochan has deleted most of his posts.
Let me know when it's ok to close your account Mojo, happy to oblige.
 

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« Reply #134 on: September 10, 2015, 08:50:29 am »
It seems Mojochan has deleted most of his posts.
Let me know when it's ok to close your account Mojo, happy to oblige.
Why not just ban him, along with the IP address he's used to make most of his posts?
 

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #135 on: September 10, 2015, 08:59:46 am »
It seems Mojochan has deleted most of his posts.
Let me know when it's ok to close your account Mojo, happy to oblige.
Why not just ban him, along with the IP address he's used to make most of his posts?

I see Simon has already taken care of that. Mojochan won't be back.
 

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #136 on: September 10, 2015, 12:08:29 pm »
I Googled for "mojo-chan"& got a lot of hits.-------No, mojo,I'm not stalking you.
He seems to be well represented in Computer sites & a number of others.

Strangely,I didn't find any examples of his more "aggro" side.

I do have a forum I would suggest to him which has had vigorous debate on the subjects dear to his heart.

It is somewhat more "robust" than this one,but has rather strange,not to say capricious,moderation,practices----certain "trigger words" will get your posting removed,without appeal,except for a PM to the Moderator.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/
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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #137 on: September 10, 2015, 03:40:44 pm »
Perhaps he had ulterior motives for posting here, hence the change in attitude. Why else be like this :) on those forums and like  :rant: here?
 

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #138 on: September 10, 2015, 04:08:57 pm »
It seems Mojochan has deleted most of his posts.
Let me know when it's ok to close your account Mojo, happy to oblige.
Why not just ban him, along with the IP address he's used to make most of his posts?

I see Simon has already taken care of that. Mojochan won't be back.

He reported a random thread and just put abuse in the reason for reporting, got that twice. I think that counts for asking to be banned. I was going to reply to the email but thought better of supplying my email.
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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #139 on: September 10, 2015, 08:13:35 pm »
Please don't close my account. I use it to keep tabs on what I have read, without commenting (except for these reports, obviously). I'm also still getting some PMs of support that are nice to read.

Mojo-chan, it's great you have supporters and I mean that without any sarcasm. But I have to be honest, you have struck a nerve with quite a lot of people on this forum, myself included on occasions. While I firmly believe everyone is entitled to their own opinions, views and beliefs, what I find incredible about certain people (and not in a good way) is their inability to modify or change their attitude towards others.

You clearly have some very strong opinions about certain things, we all do. But if I was copping as much negativity from a group of people as you are at the moment, I'd be taking a step back and wondering to myself "is there any truth in what's being said?" or "how can I improve my relations with others?". No one is asking you to change your mind about something you believe in, but rather show a little empathy and acknowledge opinions which differ from your own. Your response isn't always the "most correct", just like everyone else's isn't. I guess it's more about finding that middle-ground with people and not being stubborn as a mule.

These are all life lessons I learnt when I was younger. We've all been an idiot before. We've all said things without thinking. The key is learning from mistakes. Now that I'm a bit older and wiser, I have to say I've learnt much more about the world by being open to conflicting opinions and actually listening and engaging people, rather than just laughing them off as being "wrong".

Those are my two cents.
 

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #140 on: September 10, 2015, 08:30:02 pm »
^ This.

If you go to a shop or a restaurant and you don't enjoy the experience or it's not your cup of tea, you don't return.

Similarly, if you find yourself engaging with a group of people socially where you don't share their views, you make your excuses and go elsewhere.

I was not in support of banning MJ, although I have been deliberately avoiding engaging him in any comment for some time due to the infinite loop problem. However I'm afraid I can only draw the conclusion now that he's simply deliberately seeking attention.
 

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #141 on: September 10, 2015, 08:41:59 pm »
My account hasn't been banned.

It has now.
It was "Mojochan", now Mojo-chan" is gone too.
 

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #142 on: September 10, 2015, 09:04:10 pm »
My account hasn't been banned.

It has now.
It was "Mojochan", now Mojo-chan" is gone too.

Dave, you may want to modify his signature on his profile(s). There is a link to: this page

You may also want to "tweak" the forum settings so that his script no longer works. (Maybe set a time limit for editing/deleting posts?)
« Last Edit: September 10, 2015, 09:07:29 pm by Halcyon »
 

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #143 on: September 10, 2015, 09:09:24 pm »
My account hasn't been banned.

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Please don't close my account. I use it to keep tabs on what I have read, without commenting (except for these reports, obviously). I'm also still getting some PMs of support that are nice to read.

What happened between this post where he wasn't banned and politely requested not to be, and the moment he was banned?
 

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #144 on: September 10, 2015, 09:13:06 pm »
What happened between this post where he wasn't banned and politely requested not to be, and the moment he was banned?

They fixed the "glitch".

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #145 on: September 10, 2015, 09:17:36 pm »
What happened between this post where he wasn't banned and politely requested not to be, and the moment he was banned?

They fixed the "glitch".

 

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #146 on: September 10, 2015, 09:31:43 pm »
Dave, you may want to modify his signature on his profile(s). There is a link to: this page

You may also want to "tweak" the forum settings so that his script no longer works. (Maybe set a time limit for editing/deleting posts?)

Dave had this to say on the subject of deleting posts at the start of last year.

And to bring things back to topic, it also got me thinking about why I didn't like the no deletion policy.  I stay away from Google+ and Facebook  and so on because I have concerns about how they can collect and use (misuse?) my data and meta data in ways I couldn't even conceive. I feel I am expected to relinquish control to a disturbing degree. Has anyone ever read a privacy policy?  Being able to delete posts, and correct errors and bad grammar helps me feel I retain some control of my online presence.

The reason I have always allowed deletion and editing because I believe that if you go to the trouble to contribute information to forum, then it's your information, and you should have the right the delete it if you so chose. I don't own your data, you do. This is not some permanent recording and archive service.
If someone wants to capture your data once you put it and archive, well that's up to them, but that's not what I do.
Some like xrunner believe that once you say something, it should be documented forever, to be held against you forever. You said it, you live with the consequences.
That might have been the case pre-digital information revolution, if you say published a letter to the editor in a newspaper, a million copies are made and you can't take it back. There was no mechanism to take it back. But with digital communications (esp on a single site like this, assuming no one archives it) you do have the ability to go and take back what you said if you so desire. Should that be allowed? I think so, yes.
It's like you holding up a sign on the sidewalk or noticeboard. People can see it until you decide to take it away. And anyone is free to photograph you holding up the sign if they want to archive it.
So I view this forum more like a noticeboard than the national archives.
Now, just like saying something in public (that's not recorded), you can't take back that X number of people heard you say that, but really, it's the same thing, you are just "unrecording" it by deleting it. I think you should have that right if it's available through to mechanism you used.
Of course, other people should always also have the right to archive anything you say publicly, and that is a risk you take with saying anything in public or on this forum.

Hmm, all that probably doesn't make much sense...

and this

now, i cant recall for sure, as i usually just skim at best, then just click ok, but from what ive seen, most message boards as a part of the user agreement you agree to when signing up specifically states that once something is posted, it becomes property of you give full rights to that information to the board. im just curious if the user agreement here has something like that in it?

Nope!
There are just some rules about playing nice.
But I should update this to state that it's not my data, and you may chose to remove it at any time.

Fair enough. I disagree that being able to delete posts is a good idea but its not my forum  ;D

It's not my forum either really, it's our forum.
I will go with majority. Feel free to set up a poll, and if a big majority want to remove the ability to delete your own posts, then I'll disable it.
Note: I don't think this forum has a timed edit feature, i.e. the ability to edit your posts for a set time, then you can't any more.
That means that the edit feature remains on, and instead of deleting, people can just edit their post to remove all info anyway.
 

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #147 on: September 10, 2015, 09:35:31 pm »
Fair enough. Although I think a "fair go" policy should also apply. Yes, we should have the ability to delete or amend our own posts (perhaps for a limited time) but ultimately what Mojo-chan is doing is not upholding the "spirit" of what Dave's policy was intended for. It's clearly designed to be malicious or at the very least, disruptive to the EEVblog. I think the negatives outstrip the positives on this one.

If it's possible, maybe allow users up to 24-48 hours to modify their posts, after which a moderator needs to do it. I'd say that's more than fair. That would work in almost all circumstances. Policy needs to change as the blog (and ultimately Dave's business) grows and changes.

Perhaps Dave could suspend deletions due to the current issue(s) at hand, until this issue can be properly discussed and debated.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2015, 09:41:41 pm by Halcyon »
 

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #148 on: September 10, 2015, 09:42:50 pm »
No more on this issue please.
All of Mojo-chans posts are now gone as he originally requested.
 

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Re: Moderation reports
« Reply #149 on: September 10, 2015, 09:58:36 pm »
Fair enough. Although I think a "fair go" policy should also apply. Yes, we should have the ability to delete or amend our own posts (perhaps for a limited time) but ultimately what Mojo-chan is doing is not upholding the "spirit" of what Dave's policy was intended for. It's clearly designed to be malicious or at the very least, disruptive to the EEVblog. I think the negatives outstrip the positives on this one.

If it's possible, maybe allow users up to 24-48 hours to modify their posts, after which a moderator needs to do it. I'd say that's more than fair. That would work in almost all circumstances. Policy needs to change as the blog (and ultimately Dave's business) grows and changes.

Not to single you out  but there are plenty of people who fanned the flames in this war on M-C (or, with, if you prefer). It is not clear to me that M-C had any malicious intentions at all. Yes I think he should have walked away and I told him so. Equally the bystanders standing around like kids in a schoolyard shouting "Fight! Fight! Fight!" could have made fewer, and less inflammatory contributions.

It terms of being a cordial, scholarly place to discuss things it may be the EEVBlog forum may have just jumped the shark. Time will tell.
One thing I am certain of and that is the "Wun Hung Lo" thread should have been locked down soon after it started. It was so obvious it was going to go down the toilet.

 


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